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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: fastfred]
    #19313951 - 12/22/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i there any way to dial back the max cpu usage it can use at any given time? like tinkering with priority's or a CMD command? as you pointed out some laptops can get hot. if i can set a limit to it id be in! :laugh:


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: evileye001]
    #19314236 - 12/22/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I mostly us Linux,  but am willing to try as soon as it's available


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: evileye001]
    #19314430 - 12/23/13 01:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i there any way to dial back the max cpu usage it can use at any given time? like tinkering with priority's or a CMD command? as you pointed out some laptops can get hot. if i can set a limit to it id be in! :laugh:




You can restrict it to only certain cores if you have more than one. So if you have a dual core processor and set the "affinity" to just Core 0, the max you will use is 50%. If you have 4 cores, you can use as little as 25%. The problem with this is Windows doesn't save "affinity" settings correctly, so you'd be doing it every startup. As far as I can tell though, the program itself doesn't have any options to use less than 100% of what it has access to.


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: Godfather1376]
    #19314476 - 12/23/13 02:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i there any way to dial back the max cpu usage it can use at any given time? like tinkering with priority's or a CMD command? as you pointed out some laptops can get hot. if i can set a limit to it id be in! :laugh:




You can restrict it to only certain cores if you have more than one. So if you have a dual core processor and set the "affinity" to just Core 0, the max you will use is 50%. If you have 4 cores, you can use as little as 25%. The problem with this is Windows doesn't save "affinity" settings correctly, so you'd be doing it every startup. As far as I can tell though, the program itself doesn't have any options to use less than 100% of what it has access to.




it worked! :thumbup:

im pretty computer savvy and i have never came up agents a situation where i needed to cap a processes CPU% usage. after a search i found that windows really has no way to cap a process?!?! WTF? (running widows 7) any ways, there is always a way. if i can find out how to cap it at 25% or so (only running 2 cores on my laptop so its 50%) i would be more then glad to help! (my desktop has 4 cores but i dont use it much.) even if every shroomerite donated 1% to your cause it would be a massive intake. to bad we dont have a computer programer... ythan ythan ythan.



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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: evileye001]
    #19314497 - 12/23/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

and just out of curiosity ythan, when you do post again, whats the total GHz's you have accumulated from this beta test?


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: evileye001]
    #19315276 - 12/23/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

FF, don't you think it could be a good thing to redirect some energy to other coins to keep the difficulties of BTC and LTC down?


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: teknix]
    #19315452 - 12/23/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Icant seem to be abkle to download from link, it gets ~700kb mark and thnt stalls


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: evileye001]
    #19317381 - 12/23/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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evileye001 said:
i there any way to dial back the max cpu usage it can use at any given time? like tinkering with priority's or a CMD command? as you pointed out some laptops can get hot. if i can set a limit to it id be in! :laugh:




You can restrict it to only certain cores if you have more than one. So if you have a dual core processor and set the "affinity" to just Core 0, the max you will use is 50%. If you have 4 cores, you can use as little as 25%. The problem with this is Windows doesn't save "affinity" settings correctly, so you'd be doing it every startup. As far as I can tell though, the program itself doesn't have any options to use less than 100% of what it has access to.




it worked! :thumbup:

im pretty computer savvy and i have never came up agents a situation where i needed to cap a processes CPU% usage. after a search i found that windows really has no way to cap a process?!?! WTF? (running widows 7) any ways, there is always a way. if i can find out how to cap it at 25% or so (only running 2 cores on my laptop so its 50%) i would be more then glad to help! (my desktop has 4 cores but i dont use it much.) even if every shroomerite donated 1% to your cause it would be a massive intake. to bad we dont have a computer programer... ythan ythan ythan.







Yea so far I've learned networking has actually been my cup of tea. Tried programming and the syntax was just god awful IMO. Windows can have processes have "affinities" by going into Task Manager, right-click, set affinity. However, once you restart that setting is set back to default, so it is almost useless. Maybe if Ythan continues with this with individual stats and whatnot, a percentage CPU use box might come too.


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: NoxADVANCED]
    #19317390 - 12/23/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Icant seem to be abkle to download from link, it gets ~700kb mark and thnt stalls




ah networks, they can be a cruel bitch sometimes. Do you have an antivirus program that could be stopping you? Could be that you download all the files except minerd.exe and it stops you there because it detects it as malware.


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: Godfather1376]
    #19317611 - 12/23/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Gave it a try and quickly uninstalled the program. 100% CPU is just too much i help out with folding on the shroomery team a little with my laptop but they have a light setting (or a setting where you can pick the % of CPU you wish to use with the program) and it works out great for me. I can still use the laptop with other programs and it doesn't get crazy hot or loud fan noises.

I think i would use this program but it needs a setting where the user can set the CPU usage to whatever they want. As you said in your first post it can work on laptops but its not really recommend but wanted to give my 2 cents anyways. :grin:

Once it gets tweeked a bit i will come back and give it another try. :goodluck:


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: Dety]
    #19318042 - 12/23/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, being able to pick the percentage would definitely be a good thing to implement.

All I have is a laptop and I don't really like the CPU being at 100% all the time.

I'll still use it either way though, but that would be nice.


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19318137 - 12/23/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Haha completely understandable, especially with a laptop. When I was overclocked my CPU usage was 100% no matter what, so doing this now doesn't really bother me. I have my computer on mostly at night when other appliances are off so electricity usage isn't too bad either IMO. On a laptop or a really cheap tower heat can be a big problem though. I've got 4 120mm fans and a 200mm fan, plus a cpu cooler with 2 120mm fans lol, so heat worries me none. However, this case does kind of sound like a jet engine...One day watercooling will be mine...


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: teknix]
    #19319621 - 12/24/13 03:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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FF, don't you think it could be a good thing to redirect some energy to other coins to keep the difficulties of BTC and LTC down?




The security and stability of a currency is dependent on the total hashes in the block chain and the hash rate at any given time.

Anything that reduces the hash rate of a cyrpto currency network negatively impacts the security and delays stability.

More hashes = faster growth = more coins = larger market = better market stability.
Higher hash rate = higher security of the block chain.

Anyone who can command 51% of the hash rate of a crypto currency network can generate two blocks in a row, meaning they could double spend coins.

So growing the market (total currency in circulation) is an important step in reaching market stability.  Having many people participating reduces the ability of anyone to command 51% of the hash rate.

So these other garbage currencies are undermining or slowing the growth and stability of the real crypto currencies.

If you think taking power away from governments and providing secure, safe, anonymous, and stable currency with no transaction fees is a good thing...  then you'll support BTC/LTC and not participate in schemes that undermine them and are certain to fail.

That's why I cannot, in good conscience, donate cycles to generating garbage currencies.

Everybody knows there's only room for one, maybe two crypto currencies.  Donating cycles to garbage currencies doomed to failure undermines the goal of a future with secure, fair, non-government based digital currency.


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: fastfred]
    #19321317 - 12/24/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ythan I thought you have done your research?

CPU mining has no use in the coin mining market right now, it is relatively out of date.
GPU mining has taken off and is much more efficient and won't destroy your CPU.

CPU mining blows!

http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/16532


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: LucyLove]
    #19321664 - 12/24/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Ythan I thought you have done your research?

CPU mining has no use in the coin mining market right now, it is relatively out of date.
GPU mining has taken off and is much more efficient and won't destroy your CPU.

CPU mining blows!




You're behind the time.  LTC was created to use memory as the limiting factor instead of CPU/GPU cycles.

Back to the books son!


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: fastfred]
    #19322841 - 12/24/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Ythan I thought you have done your research?

CPU mining has no use in the coin mining market right now, it is relatively out of date.
GPU mining has taken off and is much more efficient and won't destroy your CPU.

CPU mining blows!




You're behind the time.  LTC was created to use memory as the limiting factor instead of CPU/GPU cycles.

Back to the books son!


-FF



ASIC & GPU mining is the way to go.

I am most definitely up to date with everything, as I looked into mining LTC and MegaCoin.


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: LucyLove]
    #19323668 - 12/24/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There is also Primecoin which can only be mined by CPU.


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: Ythan]
    #19324289 - 12/25/13 03:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Stats has been down for a while now...

It keeps saying...

"We cannot proceed.
There was an error retrieving the mining statistics. Please try again later.

Please use your back button to return to the previous page."


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: LucyLove]
    #19327258 - 12/25/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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ASIC & GPU mining is the way to go.

I am most definitely up to date with everything, as I looked into mining LTC and MegaCoin.




Since you're up on everything I won't bore you with details, but for everyone else...
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Litecoin is a cryptocurrency that uses an alternative, memory hard hashing algorithm called scrypt that was devised by mathematics' prodigy Colin Percival. The algorithm utilizes SHA256 and a stream function called salsa20 to force devices that mine it to either use a lot of memory or use dramatically more ALU cycles to perform a hash.  With the parameters used in Litecoin's implementation of scrypt (N = 1024; p = 1; r = 1), each thread uses approximately 64-128 KB depending on the settings for lookup_gap and thread_concurrency in the mining program when mining with a GPU.  Because GPUs have such fast memory (bandwidth in the hundreds of GB/s) and roughly 128-512 KB of RAM per stream processor, they are ideal for mining Litecoin.  This requirement for fast memory in order to mine quickly results in Litecoin being FPGA and ASIC resistant; although ASICs may one day come out for Litecoin, they are not expected to garner the same performance increases as for Bitcoin (two orders of magnitude more efficient).




The whole point of LTC and most of the other new crypto currencies is to avoid the problem bitcoin has had with specialized hardware monopolizing the network hash rate.


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Re: Donate your spare CPU cycles to the Shroomery! **Please help beta test!** [Re: fastfred]
    #19329032 - 12/26/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hope you guys had a merry Christmas! To address the posts I saw in this thread:

I don't know the exact GHz we've recruited for the beta since the installer doesn't collect that information. However our team is hashing at ~100KH/s sustained. If you look at this mining hardware comparison, that's about equivalent to a Core i7-3960X, which is roughly 20GHz running on the latest architecture.

Team stats are currently unavailable due to a technical problem with our mining pool. It's taking a little longer than usual due to the holidays, but they should be back shortly. You're still being credited for your mining.

GPUs can provide some benefits for scrypt mining but they don't provide huge performance increases like with SHA256. I'm keeping my eye on products like the Viper though. I'm pretty sure anyone can agree that it's the best algorithm for a general-purpose distributed mining app like we're offering.

FF you seem to know your stuff. Do you really think any scrypt-based currencies have a future? It's an attractive algorithm for our purposes since anyone can contribute with their home PC. But that same factor makes it extremely vulnerable to manipulation by people with huge botnets at their disposal. There are already criminals out there with tens of millions of desktop PCs they control. I feel like bitcoin is secure particularly because you would need tremendously large amounts of specialized hardware to succeed with a >50% attack. Litecoin, maybe not so much.

Anyway, I'm not sure if this is actually going to end up being profitable... so far we've earned about $3 total. But I still think it was worth a try and I'm grateful to everyone who's helping to test! :cheers:


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