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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19298108 - 12/19/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

all are contamed?


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19298127 - 12/19/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i fruited all them last night and they are right next to my nice tub. should i toss them now? or will they contam my other tubs? here is another picture. they dont smell bad, or look con tamed



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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19298156 - 12/19/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



just tossed my other two bins A+ & Ecuador cuz they honestly didnt look as good as my Penis Envy and didnt have as many cakes in. And i dont think it has contams.. it must just be slowly colonizing the coir and also taking forever cuz of the poor breaking up. But the Penis envy had like 15-20 cakes thrown in it and i flipped all the tubs over inside the tub and the first two EC, and A+ just flipped over and crumbled but had colonization throughout just not strong. And Penis envy tub didnt break when i flipped it over, it had solid white colonization undneath the tub, didnt look like a contam, look like rhizo  myce reaching everywhere to grow.


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19298242 - 12/19/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

sad day :frown: its brf anyways, fuck it.

here comes a trusted cultivator, "that was still good!!" or, "you coulda done this"




i almost thought for a second to put on gloves, sterlize with tyvek and just break it up even more and put it back in colonization but eh whatever.


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19298291 - 12/19/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wut drove u to do that?


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: cronicr]
    #19298958 - 12/19/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:shocked: What Happened?


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19298982 - 12/19/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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sad day :frown: its brf anyways, fuck it.

here comes a trusted cultivator, "that was still good!!" or, "you coulda done this"




i almost thought for a second to put on gloves, sterlize with tyvek and just break it up even more and put it back in colonization but eh whatever.



I see 1 pic with signs of Trich, did u throw it all away? You can make a nice garden with that:shrug:


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19300335 - 12/19/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Guys now I'm really upset I threw r out :frown: but the one pic you said you saw signs of Trich? Is that the last picture? That was the piece to the substrate puzzle that wasn't happy and I felt it taking that damn long to colonized eventually it'll get
Contained. I also put way to much sub I feel like. It was 2-4inches but for the amount of mushroom spawn I had and I didn't break them up good enough it didn't seem like it was worth it. I spent like 20$ on the whole grow so it's all good. I guess... :frown:


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19300375 - 12/19/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Once it's colonized it's pretty well indestructible.
Still, wouldn't be fucking with it like that?

RR? Anyone? Wait what the fuck?

Why is it even uncolonized looking with you man-handling it ?

Totally confused now.


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19300552 - 12/19/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I first flipped the tub over and took a picture of it underneath...

And then i said ehh fuck it. shredded a quick tear and broke it up to see what the inside looked like and there is your answer of how i manhandled that giant cake like it was my birthday.

The main reason that drove me to do such a thing was contams. they scare the shit out of me, the thought of me getting a spore on my shirt then walking into my grow room then it laying down and spreading little asshole babies and them creating more mutated assholes fish-pig-cow spores. then hurting my precious ladies. Or the Tub sitting next to my 64quart which is soon to be 4-5 tubs cuz all my other A+ and Ecuador jars just hit 95% atleast. And then the thought of one asshole shitty spore created from another asshole BRF jar that took 2 months to colonize fully and then half my jars weren't even colonized and i had to break em up to get em out the jar, and then the side by side difference of a BRF mycelium and a Rye mycelium, is like a slap in the face. The rye jar is like flicking the BRF jar off while it goes through puberty in a few days. And the BRF is a bitch boy from the corner of the incubator. Then overall all those asshole bad spores fucking up my last 3months of work :'( shed another tear.


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19300584 - 12/19/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry guys, had to vent a little. But its okay now :laugh:

But on the other hand i did learn a few things...

1.BRF is not my thing :frown:
2.If i ever do BRF again which i know i will, cuz i like to experiment.. Break the cakes up fully. That's why they say crumble the cakes. Cake Crumbler level99.
3.Patience.. (I'll probably never learn that lol)
4. Only leave tape on trashbags during mixing your substrate and spawn then cut the tap so that the trashbag can stick to the myce and itll avoid side pins and shit.


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19301222 - 12/20/13 03:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I used a cheese grater to shred my brf cakes when I did brf to bulk worked great!  Just a suggestion to help out...:super:


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19302949 - 12/20/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Look how thick this casing is so don't worry abouut 2-3 inches but my sub is fully colonized and popping threw, yours couldve used a lil more timebefore casing it
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Guys now I'm really upset I threw r out :frown: but the one pic you said you saw signs of Trich? Is that the last picture? That was the piece to the substrate puzzle that wasn't happy and I felt it taking that damn long to colonized eventually it'll get
Contained. I also put way to much sub I feel like. It was 2-4inches but for the amount of mushroom spawn I had and I didn't break them up good enough it didn't seem like it was worth it. I spent like 20$ on the whole grow so it's all good. I guess... :frown:



4th pic but its hard to tell, always wait even if it doesn't pin cause pins can take-4 weeks to start popping threw, don't worry about the sub amount IMO just keep it even for a nice pin set, the substrate is colonized and won't contam under normal conditions its the casing layer that must be pasteurized plus don't soak it down too much.  I made a Mono the other day using 2 quarts of colonized Texas Yellow Cap Rye Berry, 1" of Verm + Gypsum on bottom, Crushed Rye Berry sub layed out even on top, then layed about an 1" of Peat Moss, Verm + Gypsum mixed on top. Then sprayed it down and covered for a few days now its ready to start fruiting I'll post up a pic. I threw away lots of shit in the beginning cause I thought it contamed or had way too many jars of brf , rye berries and grains so anything gave me a reason to throw shit out. I suggest using Out-Grows mushroom casing to learn, its like 3.50 a 1lb then make your own as u advance.Sorry I'm in a rush an haven't read your whole thread but good luck next time and hope this helps, later bro


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19303029 - 12/20/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sorry guys, had to vent a little. But its okay now :laugh:

But on the other hand i did learn a few things...

1.BRF is not my thing :frown:
2.If i ever do BRF again which i know i will, cuz i like to experiment.. Break the cakes up fully. That's why they say crumble the cakes. Cake Crumbler level99.
3.Patience.. (I'll probably never learn that lol)
4. Only leave tape on trashbags during mixing your substrate and spawn then cut the tap so that the trashbag can stick to the myce and itll avoid side pins and shit.



See my casings at the bottom, all from BRF cakes so forget your #1, BRF is way easier to case.


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19306072 - 12/21/13 01:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Sorry guys, had to vent a little. But its okay now :laugh:

But on the other hand i did learn a few things...

1.BRF is not my thing :frown:
2.If i ever do BRF again which i know i will, cuz i like to experiment.. Break the cakes up fully. That's why they say crumble the cakes. Cake Crumbler level99.
3.Patience.. (I'll probably never learn that lol)
4. Only leave tape on trashbags during mixing your substrate and spawn then cut the tap so that the trashbag can stick to the myce and itll avoid side pins and shit.



See my casings at the bottom, all from BRF cakes so forget your #1, BRF is way easier to case.




yeah just a little more practice and its all about learning. So alteast next round ill know a little more.
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Look how thick this casing is so don't worry abouut 2-3 inches but my sub is fully colonized and popping threw, yours couldve used a lil more timebefore casing it
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Guys now I'm really upset I threw r out :frown: but the one pic you said you saw signs of Trich? Is that the last picture? That was the piece to the substrate puzzle that wasn't happy and I felt it taking that damn long to colonized eventually it'll get
Contained. I also put way to much sub I feel like. It was 2-4inches but for the amount of mushroom spawn I had and I didn't break them up good enough it didn't seem like it was worth it. I spent like 20$ on the whole grow so it's all good. I guess... :frown:



4th pic but its hard to tell, always wait even if it doesn't pin cause pins can take-4 weeks to start popping threw, don't worry about the sub amount IMO just keep it even for a nice pin set, the substrate is colonized and won't contam under normal conditions its the casing layer that must be pasteurized plus don't soak it down too much.  I made a Mono the other day using 2 quarts of colonized Texas Yellow Cap Rye Berry, 1" of Verm + Gypsum on bottom, Crushed Rye Berry sub layed out even on top, then layed about an 1" of Peat Moss, Verm + Gypsum mixed on top. Then sprayed it down and covered for a few days now its ready to start fruiting I'll post up a pic. I threw away lots of shit in the beginning cause I thought it contamed or had way too many jars of brf , rye berries and grains so anything gave me a reason to throw shit out. I suggest using Out-Grows mushroom casing to learn, its like 3.50 a 1lb then make your own as u advance.Sorry I'm in a rush an haven't read your whole thread but good luck next time and hope this helps, later bro




Yeah thats a good idea to order their casing layer to see the moisture content and what not. The casing layer i was gonna use was jiffy mix or a peat,verm, type mix. and just past it like my coir/verm substrate.

The only thing that sucks about outgrow is that they charge hella high for shipping, spent 20$ on items and 17$ on shipping. why does a nigga need 17$ to handle plastic bags?  And if i was to get that casing how long would it last in the package? and how much would 1lb cover.


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19306136 - 12/21/13 02:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Go to the store n get your own, you can probly get fifty pounds for that price


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: cronicr]
    #19306463 - 12/21/13 05:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

A Bale of peat moss is like $10 and a big bag of verm sold as insulation is about $15.


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19307795 - 12/21/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you don't know how to making casing material I suggest buying it for your 1st casing so u dont waste anymore, after your first casing bro you will have a steady supply of mushies unless u decide to quit so hang in there. Also BRF/ Verm/ Gypsum cakes give me nice flushes of like atleast an oz each so don't switch to Grains yet  IMO they contam easier bro. I do both personally. I like making up jars it fun to me , an each cake will flush like 4x under the right conditions. I also have brf cakes that after using a spore syringe I sucked up spring water and inoculated 4 1/4 pints all with no contams that I'm gonnna case so 1 spore syringe goes far considering how many ounces of each casing,if u have extra jars give a try simply flame your needle and use a fresh bottle of spring water. I got 5 casings just finished with theyre 2nd flushes, a super cake I made of like a pound of brf + grain, a mono with pounds of Rye pinning, 9 jars almost done and I made another 9 I'm gonna knock up with Koh Super Strain and Lizard King from Spore Depot which I recommend. Good Luck and don't get so flustered I think everyone has those moments when they first start, I took notes for mad long I gotta notebook from college filled with growing stuff I could write a book but check the search engine on here thoroughly before growing, every question has an answer on here.


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19308638 - 12/21/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If you don't know how to making casing material I suggest buying it for your 1st casing so u dont waste anymore, after your first casing bro you will have a steady supply of mushies unless u decide to quit so hang in there. Also BRF/ Verm/ Gypsum cakes give me nice flushes of like atleast an oz each so don't switch to Grains yet  IMO they contam easier bro. I do both personally. I like making up jars it fun to me , an each cake will flush like 4x under the right conditions. I also have brf cakes that after using a spore syringe I sucked up spring water and inoculated 4 1/4 pints all with no contams that I'm gonnna case so 1 spore syringe goes far considering how many ounces of each casing,if u have extra jars give a try simply flame your needle and use a fresh bottle of spring water. I got 5 casings just finished with theyre 2nd flushes, a super cake I made of like a pound of brf + grain, a mono with pounds of Rye pinning, 9 jars almost done and I made another 9 I'm gonna knock up with Koh Super Strain and Lizard King from #@$@#$@#$ which I recommend. Good Luck and don't get so flustered I think everyone has those moments when they first start, I took notes for mad long I gotta notebook from college filled with growing stuff I could write a book but check the search engine on here thoroughly before growing, every question has an answer on here.




you should take the sponsers name out of your post please... they dont need that attention

Also im doing rye right now in mono's and have done a few brf runs as well. and i mixed my substrate for my monotub with no problems. Proper past and everything. And so im assuming i can do the same with the casing


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19308679 - 12/21/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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you should take the sponsers name out of your post please... they dont need that attention





thats funny somebody just told you the same thing in your other thread DB


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