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Chronic7
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The Passage of Time
#19301939 - 12/20/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why is it that subjectively when we're kids time appears to tick so slowly and when we get older it perpetually speeds up?
And is there any practical way to counter this?
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Chronic7] 1
#19302040 - 12/20/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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When I was 10, a year was 10% of my life. Now a year is only 3%. I quit cannabis last month. Time has slowed to a crawl, but I feel more clear and "awake" than ever.
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Chronic7
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Middleman]
#19302084 - 12/20/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Rev. Morton said: When I was 10, a year was 10% of my life. Now a year is only 3%.
Makes sense, but we aren't usually consciously aware that it's only 3%, so it helps explain why but doesn't explain how, I should've said 'why & how' in the OP
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I quit cannabis last month. Time has slowed to a crawl, but I feel more clear and "awake" than ever.
I hear that loud & clear
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Middleman]
#19302090 - 12/20/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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What your experiencing is only partially subjective. Most people never notice the absolute acceleration of time, instead attributing it completely to subjective acceleration of time over their lifetime.
In actuality, time is speeding up. A million years a billion years ago went by faster than a milisecond today. This is just because the possibility for more events to happen has increased, and thus more events do happen. Each milisecond there are so many cultural interactions, cells dividing, new lifeforms birthed, that comparably to the 1 or 2 asteroid collisions and a tiny fraction of today's organismal activity, time today literally happens faster.
So there is no way to go back to a slower time, because since your childhood a black president has been elected twice, we killed osama bin laden, the supposed mayan apocalypse has passed, etc. These events all changed future after them. We are here and now, as humans we are only adapted to function in the present moment so why try to go somewhere else.
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Perhaps being less aware or remembering less?
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Chronic7] 1
#19302361 - 12/20/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Chronic said: Why is it that subjectively when we're kids time appears to tick so slowly and when we get older it perpetually speeds up?
And is there any practical way to counter this?
I think it might have to do with habituation. When we are young everything is new and imprinting on memory. Each day is packed with new memories, new experiences, meaning and associations. As we age those same things get farther and farther apart. I think those memories, meaningful events, and wondrous associations help to create the timeline. The time between is mostly irrelevant. And so when these events are close together it feels as though so much happens in so little time. As they space out it seems as though so little happens in so much time. Just my guess.
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Kickle] 1
#19302496 - 12/20/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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as a kid, I was very interested in subjective time: I did not have language for it, but I was able by age 13 to explain that that I wanted to be a person who made time slow down for other people in a way that they felt they had gained something.
I noticed that it is easy to stall, and to be a nuisance or to get in the way, and that was not what I was looking for;
that type of making time slow down actually steals time/life from people, or takes them hostage.
what I wanted was somehow to make extra time for people, and myself, or in the reverse order as it turns out (self first and then maybe others if they are open to it)
I suspected that this might be possible because of the fantasy movie Shangri-la, which resembled my dreams, and because I had already experienced that time often drags or slips by way too quickly. (as mentioned above)
I wanted to find the magic of the drag, but the easiness of the slipping by and some how to combine those into an expanded space full of golden light - a sense of being nearly timeless.
Well, psychedelics brought that more to the fore by the time I was 17, and later on I found that much of the psychedelic effect was either directly or indirectly about time, and how we sense things in time, i.e. frames of time (like a movie) or layers of moments in time (when the lingering begins... trails)
Anyway I am not sure if i have actually achieved my child hood goal of slowing time for others when they manage to visit me, but when I get to visit me, I really do grasp time's throttle as much as possible.
For those of you who may now be sliding over the hill I have to be very clear: this is not achieved by endlessly telling wonderful (same old) stories nor by getting attention and then speaking slowly and thoughtfully; instead it is telegraphed in every breath and movement, it follows an appreciation of the moment which is usually hiding, somewhere around here, just under the last one.
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Kickle]
#19302595 - 12/20/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kickle said:
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The Chronic said: Why is it that subjectively when we're kids time appears to tick so slowly and when we get older it perpetually speeds up?
And is there any practical way to counter this?
I think it might have to do with habituation. When we are young everything is new and imprinting on memory. Each day is packed with new memories, new experiences, meaning and associations. As we age those same things get farther and farther apart. I think those memories, meaningful events, and wondrous associations help to create the timeline. The time between is mostly irrelevant. And so when these events are close together it feels as though so much happens in so little time. As they space out it seems as though so little happens in so much time. Just my guess.
 I tend to agree. I also think when older there are many more responsibilities, and that also causes time to appear like it flies by faster.
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Nothing makes time fly by like a repetitive 9-5 job for 40+ hours a week
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Kickle]
#19302709 - 12/20/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kickle said: Nothing makes time fly by like a repetitive 9-5 job for 40+ hours a week 
That is very true. The weeks fly by so quickly.
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Kickle]
#19302760 - 12/20/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kickle said: Nothing makes time fly by like a repetitive 9-5 job for 40+ hours a week 
Agree with a lot of this thread, its a very sad thing to want time to go by so one can get out of work already - only to realize that one's time is finite.
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Chronic7] 1
#19302834 - 12/20/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've read that the perception of time going faster as we age is actually a function of our circadian rhythms changing. So it's not just our perception of time that changes; the chemical processes that our bodies use to track time are actually speeding up among other things.
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Kickle]
#19302986 - 12/20/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kickle said: Nothing makes time fly by like a repetitive 9-5 job for 40+ hours a week 
I find it makes time seem like an endless agony. Wish it did seem like it was flying by.
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Kickle]
#19303017 - 12/20/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kickle said: Nothing makes time fly by like a repetitive 9-5 job for 40+ hours a week 
Weirdly enough it's true. No matter what you've been doing at the end it will seem like an instant imo.
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redgreenvines said: For those of you who may now be sliding over the hill I have to be very clear: this is not achieved by endlessly telling wonderful (same old) stories nor by getting attention and then speaking slowly and thoughtfully; instead it is telegraphed in every breath and movement, it follows an appreciation of the moment which is usually hiding, somewhere around here, just under the last one.
Beautiful post as always, thanks man. You're the best. Breakfast for your ego is on me. Leggo your eggo.
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glad someone read it
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Chronic7] 1
#19304583 - 12/20/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Chronic said: And is there any practical way to counter this?
boatloads of lsd
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Hobozen]
#19304593 - 12/20/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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blankk said:
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The Chronic said: And is there any practical way to counter this?
boatloads of lsd 
That may just work, time slows down like a mother fucker with some lucy
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Repertoire89 said: Agree with a lot of this thread, its a very sad thing to want time to go by so one can get out of work already - only to realize that one's time is finite.
Noice!
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Chronic7
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Sleepwalker said:
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redgreenvines said: For those of you who may now be sliding over the hill I have to be very clear: this is not achieved by endlessly telling wonderful (same old) stories nor by getting attention and then speaking slowly and thoughtfully; instead it is telegraphed in every breath and movement, it follows an appreciation of the moment which is usually hiding, somewhere around here, just under the last one.
Beautiful post as always, thanks man. You're the best. Breakfast for your ego is on me. Leggo your eggo.
I enjoyed it aswell, just didn't think there would be much point replying for some reason
I like the idea of the moment being hidden, even tho it isn't exactly, but the unknown element is in a way hidden, and imo when one starts dealing with the unknown they're on right track so to speak
Enjoyed all the posts
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Chronic7]
#19306505 - 12/21/13 05:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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right! specialists of the bona fide unknown. i.e. really we don't know, but we are in it, and we know it partially because we are paying attention.
not like charlatans who pretend to know the "unknown"
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Chronic7] 2
#19307649 - 12/21/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Chronic said:
I enjoyed it aswell, just didn't think there would be much point replying for some reason
I like the idea of the moment being hidden, even tho it isn't exactly, but the unknown element is in a way hidden, and imo when one starts dealing with the unknown they're on right track so to speak
Enjoyed all the posts
Sometimes I wish the shroomery had a "like" feature, but then I think that would ruin some of the magic as well. I like a lot more posts than I actually reply to, I just don't want to be a nut rider or anything.
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Middleman

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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Mr Person] 2
#19307702 - 12/21/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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See the plus sign above each post right there? ^ Click it!
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Middleman]
#19307921 - 12/21/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Chronic7
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Middleman] 3
#19310449 - 12/22/13 03:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Rev. Morton said: See the plus sign above each post right there? ^ Click it!
I've been here ten years & never even seen it
I think this is a good analogy for what RGV/I was talking about the moment being hidden/unknown, kinda
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Chronic7] 2
#19310549 - 12/22/13 04:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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dude if you would've just expanded your consciousness sooner u would've noticed the +1's
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Chronic7
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Re: The Passage of Time [Re: Hobozen]
#19310632 - 12/22/13 05:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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haha you just got my first +1
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