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alank950

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Atomizer for humidity
#19301833 - 12/20/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anyone ever use an atomizer instead of perlite for humidity in the terrarium.
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Edited by alank950 (12/20/13 08:24 AM)
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Re: Atomizer for humidity [Re: alank950]
#19301886 - 12/20/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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How are you going to get proper FAE,
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FAE This is a phenomenon (Fresh air exchange) in a properly built SGFC this is constantly happening. The perlite is naturally cooler than the surrounding air this moves molecules closer to eachother as the lose kinetic energy. This creates low pressure which pulls air up through the bottom holes. As the air moves through the perlite it picks up humidity and keeps the chamber at or above 90%RH. This occurs naturally without the fanning and is why we like to have no fans in the room and is also why fanning after misting is not a replacement for FAE.
the holes on all six sides and wet perlite make the FAE happen.
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A double outlet 100 gallon aquarium pump in a shotgun terrarium will result in about ten percent of the air exchange you would get naturally, plus destroy the flow of air up through the perlite, causing all sorts of problems. RR
You want air flow and humidity the perlite does a double whammy.
You can use the search box to find out all the other people that didn't have very good luck doing what you suggested. It's why we don't see a bunch of people doing it right now. Many Many Many people have tried and not to many of them succeeded, and even those who did succeed had the same results as a cheap tub for at least triple the price.
I'm no fan of killing experimentation, so if you want to try it out go ahead but you'll have some hurdles especially because there's a few things you don't know about mushrooms you should know before you start to make your own fruiting chamber such as the fact that mushrooms like their CO2 to be 1000PPM or less and the SGFC is designed to do that. Design yours to do that and then it might work well.
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alank950

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Re: Atomizer for humidity [Re: bodhisatta]
#19302313 - 12/20/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you for the very interesting and informative reply
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Re: Atomizer for humidity [Re: alank950]
#19302343 - 12/20/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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An atomizer would overwhelm a terrarium in a second or two. You don't want saturated air or substrates with mushrooms. Also, fresh air is far more important than humidity.
Many growers have success growing in trays without a terrarium. Simply lay crinkled wax paper or bubble wrap, etc., over the substrate. Lift each day and then mist as required.
For getting started learning the basics, I'd suggest the brf tek, where you'll also see a tutorial on building a good terrarium.
I do love my atomizer though, just not for mushrooms.  RR
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Re: Atomizer for humidity [Re: alank950]
#19302431 - 12/20/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why can't you have both and use a timer.
FAE and a cool mist can go hand in hand if it is piped in.
Just making sure all the ports from your piping system from your cool mist evenly distribute the mist through the piping. you get air pumped in as well as moisture / watering.
Check out Akira's tek for tubs and making a cool mist barrel with an atomizer and a float. and refilling with a float valve.
You need a timer. You also need a lot of space to run tubs.
Makes everything run super smooth actually. I don't use it cuz I can just pour water on the sub or mist by hand. But it sure would automate it real fast. 15 min time intervals might be much unless you have 6 + large tubs or a 10'x10'x10' PVC cubes with shelving inside or supports for staw logs and such.
Wish you luck. But for a terrarium everyone is kinda right just use perlite, or verm, or gravel in some cases. Verm works in most situations too.
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alank950

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Can the perlite be washed and reused again? I have expanded clay pebbles and seen a vid where someone used these in water along with an air pump and heater although the perlite seems like the most simple way.
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Re: Atomizer for humidity [Re: alank950]
#19302502 - 12/20/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes perlite can be used again and what your talking about is a poor mans pod
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Re: Atomizer for humidity [Re: cronicr]
#19302700 - 12/20/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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A hypersonic humidifier works perfectly (for me), but you need to get one that has the little knob to control the moisture level. A hypersonic at full blast loads FCs, especially tiny ones, with so much RH and fog that it goes well past the dew point and you get water all over everything.
(Great for fogging newly rolled cakes, actually. No splattering them with sprays)
I'd still use at least a little bit of perlite as a buffer, because your going to be fanning it often even with forced-air exchange and some outlet holes.
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alank950

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Re: Atomizer for humidity [Re: Quexl]
#19306084 - 12/21/13 01:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the perlite will be the most logical and simple option ,it seems as if it was made for growing mushrooms.I will rinse it in a bleach solution and reuse it.
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