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OfflineCpt.Crunch
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Do mushrooms lose potency after veil breaks or...?
    #19300542 - 12/19/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do mushrooms lose potency the longer you wait to dry them upon their Veil Breaking?


Or do they keep the same amount of potency except they just get heavier via water weight?

For example..

Lets say a Mushroom weights 100g wet once its veil breaks.
Lets say it contains 50mg Psilocybin.

5 days Later it weights 160g wet.
Will it still have the 50mg Psilocybin or will it lose it's active compounds the longer you wait to dry ??

Thanks.


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Re: Do mushrooms lose potency after veil breaks or...? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #19300592 - 12/19/13 11:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

dry them as soon as you harvest. electric beefjerky/mushroom dehydrater I use...:stoned:


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Re: Do mushrooms lose potency after veil breaks or...? [Re: bluecap]
    #19300608 - 12/19/13 11:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was led to believe the main reason to harvest them as the veil breaks was to avoid the mess of spore, but also that they are near their growth end so they don't really get heavier or more potent.  I am a noob though so that was my reading of things here over time.


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Re: Do mushrooms lose potency after veil breaks or...? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #19300681 - 12/20/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:


Lets say a Mushroom weights 100g wet once its veil breaks.
Lets say it contains 50mg Psilocybin.

5 days Later it weights 160g wet.
Will it still have the 50mg Psilocybin or will it lose it's active compounds the longer you wait to dry ??




Neither... It will have more than 50mg Psilocybin, but a lower concentration by weight. In other words although it weighs 60% more, it may only have 30% more Psilocybin.

...Although 50mg would knock you into a black hole.:crazy2:


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Re: Do mushrooms lose potency after veil breaks or...? [Re: plate.82]
    #19300775 - 12/20/13 12:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

eat a handful of aborts sometime...LOL...why are they so good? evidently the active compounds are present, in embryonic cell formation. I would say ... its more concentrated in pins? and the caps never open for spore formation? I  still think large  shrooms are as good. eat a big one and see...:smile:


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Re: Do mushrooms lose potency after veil breaks or...? [Re: bluecap]
    #19300852 - 12/20/13 01:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The mushroom is about 90% water and expands like a sponge. It is true that pins do have higher alkaloid concentration. I can tell you from experience that 3.5g in pins is a much more powerful trip than 3.5g of mature shrooms I actually did this.

Also its always a good idea to pick the mushroom just as the veil tears and the cap expands a little. Potency isn't lost but it will cause a spore mess and it will also waste your substrate. Spore production takes energy so by pick them before they start heavily deposting, you would be conserving some nutrients.


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Re: Do mushrooms lose potency after veil breaks or...? [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #19300873 - 12/20/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've read that, if the veil breaks they loose a little bit of potency, coz after the breaking of the veil the mushroom concentrates on producing and maturing the spores, which i guess consumes some of the alkaloids in it.


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Re: Do mushrooms lose potency after veil breaks or...? [Re: alchemistical]
    #19300900 - 12/20/13 01:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I say the faster you dry a shroom, the better. less oxidization I would presume...I dry as soon as I harvest. good potency still...:sun:


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Re: Do mushrooms lose potency after veil breaks or...? [Re: bluecap]
    #19300906 - 12/20/13 01:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Potency loss is more a matter of storing than of maturing, any potency lost while it matures won't be all that noticable but the taste will be


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Re: Do mushrooms lose potency after veil breaks or...? [Re: alchemistical]
    #19300908 - 12/20/13 01:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No, I believe once the alkaloids are produced they stay there with the exception being psilocin that gradually degrades for other reasons. Also, when the veil breaks and the cap expands it adds more mass to the mushroom which lowers the concentration of the good stuff a tad bit. That shouldn't be very noticable though. I really dont think theres a big deal in potency but like I said before, don't waste your substrate.


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