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Murex
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Re: drugs...too self aware...intellectual confusion..need advice [Re: kapowsin]
#1929053 - 09/18/03 01:13 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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My advise is to lay off drugs for a while and medatate at least once every few days. Then, after a month or so, take a healthy dose of mushrooms.
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Re: drugs...too self aware...intellectual confusion..need advice [Re: Murex]
#1929128 - 09/18/03 01:34 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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don't lose the good of you with the bad of you
rearrange but do not destroy
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Re: drugs...too self aware...intellectual confusion..need advice [Re: Grav]
#1929167 - 09/18/03 01:42 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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and always remember to relax... i'd say it's as important as any amount of thinking and realization. you have to balance that sometimes overwhelming sense of self-awareness with some good sessions of having fun or just chilling out.
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Re: drugs...too self aware...intellectual confusion..need advice [Re: kapowsin]
#1929283 - 09/18/03 02:07 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is from a book I am reading right now called a course in miracles.
Truth can only be experienced. It cannot be described and cannot be explained.
Truth is beyond your ability to destroy, but entirely within you.
Do not try to look beyond yourself for truth, for truth can only be within you.
Truth lies in the present, and you will find it if you seek it there.
Truth is restored to you through your desire, as it was lost to you through your desire for something else.
How can a fact be fearful unless it disagrees with what you hold more dear than truth?
The search for truth is but the honest searchiing out of everything that interferes with truth. Truth is. It can neither be lost nor sought nor found. It is there, wherever you are, being within you. Yet it can be recognized or unrecognized.
You cannot be safe from truth, but only in truth. Reality is the onley safety.
Merely by being with what it is, does truth release you from everything that is not.
Reality cannot "threaten" anything except illusions, since reality can only uphold truth.
Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God.
When a situation has been dedicated wholly in truth, peace is inevitable.
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Re: drugs...too self aware...intellectual confusion..need advice [Re: kapowsin]
#1929821 - 09/18/03 04:41 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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You sound like an INTP or at least an NT type. Are you? (MBTI personality types) Belief. It comes in many forms. Some are hard-fought for, involving struggle to come to an answer that is then taken as THE TRUTH. Some beliefs come without thought, and are held stronger than those that are come to logically. In all cases, a belief is held to be true and many people are unwilling to second-guess something that works. Are you sure that it is you that is changing, and not just your world-view? In the past few years my worldview has changed over and over again. At first I was convinced it was me who was changing, that somehow the very essence of what makes Trendal was morphing into something else. What I have learned since is that it is most certainly not me changing, but my view and perspective that shifts each day. Oh, how I love the abstracted mind Self-criticism is a tool, although a heavy one, that a few of us use to an extent greater than most. It is not deconstructive in the way which we use it. It is our hammer, our file, our mold. A thought comes into being...but is it valid? Does it have weight over the multitude of other thoughts present? Attack it wherever you can. Poke and prod it. Test, and test again. It's a brutal process...but it works. Only in the end, when a thought has been taken apart and peiced back together in every conceivable way, can a desicion be made on it's validity. Things get sticky from here, though. You must examine each thought fully...but as each thought comes from "you", the examination can come uncomfortably close to an examination of yourself. Because our way of proof comes from an insatiable urge to find the flaws, we can all too easily find the flaws in ourself. I say, keep tearing down those walls. Even if you build them back up right away...keep tearing them down. Cause if you don't...how can you REALLY be sure you have a solid foundation
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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
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Re: drugs...too self aware...intellectual confusion..need advice [Re: GazzBut]
#1930027 - 09/18/03 05:42 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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i don't think why i should waste my time looking up stupid links so i can prove a point. why don't you go work at a hospital for 5 years and actually see the truth for yourself, behind people and these designer drugs. you know what the concept of enlightenment is? its the knowing of all. only if you have seen these godmen up close and personal you would know what i am talking about. don't beleive everything you read, you won't know till you have experienced what he can do. maybe i do sound like a anti drug commerical, but i have seen the worst of what these drugs can do. i am not denying the fact that all paths lead to oneness. it can hinder your opportunity to become one.
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Re: drugs...too self aware...intellectual confusion..need advice [Re: spudamore]
#1930203 - 09/18/03 06:48 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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You know, it's funny you mention hospitals, cuz you know what they give people in hospitals? Synthetic drugs.
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Re: drugs...too self aware...intellectual confusion..need advice [Re: silversoul7]
#1930220 - 09/18/03 06:59 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah but they don't use it to get a high they use it for a reason to help heal people, and if society wasn't so blind and ignorant on what the mind can acheive we wouldn't need any drugs whatso ever
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Re: drugs...too self aware...intellectual confusion..need advice [Re: spudamore]
#1930255 - 09/18/03 07:12 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who cares if they use it to get high? It's still synthetic drugs, which you claim rot your brain.
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Re: drugs...too self aware...intellectual confusion..need advice [Re: silversoul7]
#1931592 - 09/19/03 04:18 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah but the thing is the doctors regulate these types of drugs so don't harm you in anyway. not like normal people that don't know actual doses of drugs to take so they don't do harm to themselves
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Re: drugs...too self aware...intellectual confusion..need advice [Re: spudamore]
#1933584 - 09/19/03 07:41 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't fool yourself.I've met many a doctor that didn't know shit about drugs.In fact,I saw a particularly shitty psychiatrist for a year and I ended up worse off than before I started seeing him.
Modern psychiatric drugs have their root in robotic behaviorism. Doctors see the outward appearance of the person's behavior,but they have no idea what's going on in the patients head,especially since most have never taken any of these drugs before.
-------------------- People think that if you just say the word "hallucinations" it explains everything you want it to explain and eventually whatever it is you can't explain will just go away.It's just a word,it doesn't explain anything... Douglas Adams
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Re: drugs...too self aware...intellectual confusion..need advice [Re: spudamore]
#1933619 - 09/19/03 07:58 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
spudamore said: yeah but the thing is the doctors regulate these types of drugs so don't harm you in anyway. not like normal people that don't know actual doses of drugs to take so they don't do harm to themselves
Most people on this site are informed drug users. There are plenty of people like that out there. Personally, I never try a new drug without first researching it extensively on Erowid.
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