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wtf Fruiting from under cake???
    #19297996 - 12/19/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The mushrooms began growing from underneath my only non contaminated BRF cake..
It has been in the FC for quite a while with no signs of fruiting until just 5 minutes ago I noticed a head popping out from underneath. Flipped it and found a couple other tiny ones lol. I was very happy but confused, is this weird?.. I find it weird.. but then again I'm a certified noob.
Can anybody tell me why ?


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: itinkitook2much]
    #19298022 - 12/19/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Better moisture at the bottom cut your foil back


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: cronicr]
    #19298398 - 12/19/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Better moisture at the bottom cut your foil back



i dont understand what you want me to do.. " Cut my foil back" ?


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: itinkitook2much]
    #19298411 - 12/19/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yes. Trim it so it's just slightly bigger diameter than the cake. Or, just use the jar lids instead.


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: itinkitook2much]
    #19298414 - 12/19/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You only need as much foil as there is cake to sit it on. Cut the foil till it's JUST big enough for the cake to not touch the verm(stoner moment) perlite. It's ok if the mushrooms do.


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: Camtaro420]
    #19298508 - 12/19/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ooooooh okokt, thank you guys


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: Camtaro420]
    #19298566 - 12/19/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You just gotta keep in mind with this hobby that your fruits will form in the most ideal conditions possible so in this instance the cakes' surface on the bottom holds a much more favorable relative humidity (RH) than that of its top. Due to the bottom not being perfectly flat, and what its sitting on not being either, there is obviously enough Fresh Air Exchange (FAE) occurring down there to provide the necessary evaporation for pin formation. So its not so much "weird" as it is a common occurrence using the growing method you've chosen :smile:


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: Camtaro420]
    #19298601 - 12/19/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You only need as much foil as there is cake to sit it on. Cut the foil till it's JUST big enough for the cake to not touch the verm. It's ok if the mushrooms do.




You mean JUST big enough to not touch the PERLITE... :pipesmoke:


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: Nakor420]
    #19298890 - 12/19/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Okay so should I also add some perlite?? Is that why there isnt enough humidity or maybe Not spraying enough water? (2-3 times a day on walls +perlite)


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: itinkitook2much]
    #19298919 - 12/19/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Basic Principles of the SGFC
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Principles and construction of Shotgun Fruiting Chambers (SGFC):

This guide is not focused on PF/BRF cakes per se. It's really just the basics of how the SGFC works.

How it's made

A properly made SGFC Is made of a clear/transparent tote with 1/4" holes on all 6 sides about 2" apart in a grid pattern. All 6 sides means the 4 vertical sides AND top AND bottom.

They need 4"-5" of damp perlite. You may need to rinse the perlite a few times to get rid of the dust. The dust can accumulate at the bottom, clogging the holes. A few pieces of perlite may fall through the hole, but only a few.

Principle of operation

A properly made SGFC uses natural air currents to create high relative humidity (RH) and constant fresh air exchange (FAE).

The fresh air that flows in through the bottom holes rises up through the damp perlite assisting in evaporation. This evaporation is where you get your humidity.

Because humid air rises, it flows up and out the other holes, thus allowing more fresh air in through the bottom. This is how you get constant FAE without sacrificing humidity.

Some Things to Consider

The SGFC must not sit directly on a flat surface. It needs to be elevated. If not elevated, air can't flow in through the bottom and the whole system breaks down.

Running a fan in the room with your SGFC will also disrupt the natural currents.

Once inside the SGFC, your cakes will need to misted and fanned. Because of the constant FAE, your cakes will dry out if not misted regularly. Schedules may vary slightly from region to region, but 3-6 times a day is pretty common.

Mist your cakes
till they glisten with moisture and then fan the SGFC out. There is a magic moment when your cakes are no longer glistening, but they still appear moist, this is when you want to mist and fan again. Do this as often as required.

Mist cakes directly with a fine mist. The over-spray helps keep your perlite damp. Misting the walls serves absolutely no purpose.




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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: Nakor420]
    #19299123 - 12/19/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You only need as much foil as there is cake to sit it on. Cut the foil till it's JUST big enough for the cake to not touch the verm. It's ok if the mushrooms do.




You mean JUST big enough to not touch the PERLITE... :pipesmoke:





Haha yes sir thank you for noticing that to much :pipesmoke:. fixing my post now xD


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: Camtaro420]
    #19299146 - 12/19/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Happens from my casings? :shrug:


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: itinkitook2much]
    #19299157 - 12/19/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The mushrooms began growing from underneath my only non contaminated BRF cake..
It has been in the FC for quite a while with no signs of fruiting until just 5 minutes ago I noticed a head popping out from underneath. Flipped it and found a couple other tiny ones lol. I was very happy but confused, is this weird?.. I find it weird.. but then again I'm a certified noob.
Can anybody tell me why ?




You should take a lid fill it with moist verm instead of tin foil, works great!:mushroom2:


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19307133 - 12/21/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

check it out guys:) Added some perlite(maybe not enough) and cut the foil! Lookin' good ???


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: itinkitook2much]
    #19307257 - 12/21/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Looks a little wet, but you prolly took the pic right after misting.

Other then that, :greatjob:


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: Camtaro420]
    #19307358 - 12/21/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Looks a little wet, but you prolly took the pic right after misting.

Other then that, :greatjob:



yeah about that.. is dripping too much misting?


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: itinkitook2much]
    #19307372 - 12/21/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just wait for it to dry up before misting again


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: cronicr]
    #19307406 - 12/21/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Just wait for it to dry up before misting again



Okay, I'l try not to over spray. Thanks dudes


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: itinkitook2much]
    #19307423 - 12/21/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When I did my PF grow this was pretty common. It happens for the reasons mentioned. I had some standing water sitting in my fishtank, I had a pane of glass to keep droplets from hitting cakes when I sprayed and used the airstone in a cup method.

it was all from a book, didn't even call it the PF tek, but it did lead me here and the rest is history, got into casings, etc


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Re: wtf Fruiting from under cake??? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #19307799 - 12/21/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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When I did my PF grow this was pretty common. It happens for the reasons mentioned. I had some standing water sitting in my fishtank, I had a pane of glass to keep droplets from hitting cakes when I sprayed and used the airstone in a cup method.

it was all from a book, didn't even call it the PF tek, but it did lead me here and the rest is history, got into casings, etc



yeah its the 2nd time I read about casings, gonna get my google on big time  thanks guys


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