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how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn?
    #19298302 - 12/19/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How long can mycelium continue to colonize new substrates(without allowing it to fruit)?

In TMC there is a diagram of taking ten grain jars, inoculating them, and then splitting each of those ten times once fully colonized.

Is there a difference between using that process with horse manure or other spawn? For example, will the mycelium ever get "tired" of colonizing without fruiting?



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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: thebileball]
    #19298308 - 12/19/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes it will search senscene, it can only go through so many cell divisions


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: cronicr]
    #19298353 - 12/19/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

what?


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: cronicr]
    #19298361 - 12/19/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yes it will, search senscene, it can only go through so many cell divisions




Fix'd it for you to understand OP.


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: Camtaro420]
    #19298374 - 12/19/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thnx bud i hate my phone lol


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: cronicr]
    #19298379 - 12/19/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Thnx bud i hate my phone lol




Word. Figured it was something like that. I hate posting from mine too. =(


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: Camtaro420]
    #19298383 - 12/19/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

what does senscene mean?


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: Camtaro420]
    #19298400 - 12/19/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

senescence* thank you


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: thebileball]
    #19298421 - 12/19/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Mycelium grows through cell division like you and i and can only do it x amount of times before it basicly dies


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: thebileball]
    #19298426 - 12/19/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Most people will do 3-5 grain to grain tranfers (G2G's) max before going back to a master jar.

You would spawn grains to horse manure, but you wouldn't usually use horse manure as a spawn. But G2G's are something best left until you have a lot of experience with sterile procedure. But even a noob could spawn BRF cakes to a coir 50/50 or a Horse manure/straw substrate. Making that only 1 single transfer. :mushroom2:


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: vikingsc]
    #19298445 - 12/19/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

cool. so what's the big deal with using horse manure as spawn?


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: thebileball]
    #19298682 - 12/19/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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cool. so what's the big deal with using horse manure as spawn?




You don't really NEED manure unless you are using a species that requires a very high nitrogen source. such as pans


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: thebileball]
    #19298687 - 12/19/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How long can mycelium continue to colonize new substrates(without allowing it to fruit)?

In TMC there is a diagram of taking ten grain jars, inoculating them, and then splitting each of those ten times once fully colonized.

Is there a difference between using that process with horse manure or other spawn? For example, will the mycelium ever get "tired" of colonizing without fruiting?





From my perspective, the simplest reason is
Grain can be broken apart easily and transferred from one Container to another. Manure will clump and require much more effort to brake and transfer.


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: Stool_Sample]
    #19298691 - 12/19/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think he meant manure as bulk sub... :shrug:


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: Nakor420]
    #19299193 - 12/19/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Grain is far more nutritious for one and colonize much quicker and far more nutrients in a quart jar of grain than a quart of horse manure. Spawn needs to be sterile a substrate doesn't, it can be pastuerized. Most only use horse manure as bulk substrate rather than putting it in jars and inoculating it, but it is possible- spawn bags more likely. :mushroom2:


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: cronicr]
    #19299213 - 12/19/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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what does senscene mean?




Quote:

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Yes it will, search senscene, it can only go through so many cell divisions




senescence is how it's spelled by the way.

^also what they said^


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Re: how long will mycelium continue to colonize new spawn? [Re: vikingsc]
    #19324408 - 12/25/13 04:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

so if someone just wanted to be lazy and not use a flow hood would it be really terrible to only use manure after your first grain transfer? or, this seems to good to be true but noc up manure and just keep building trays? thats kinda like spawn bags right?


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