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President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases * 1
    #19298134 - 12/19/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Drug Policy Alliance: President Praised; Many Others Deserve Similar Relief

Congress Should Reform Mandatory Minimum Laws

Today President Obama is expected to commute the sentences of eight federal inmates convicted of non-violent drug offenses involving crack cocaine. Mr. Obama, said the eight men and women had been sentenced under an “unfair system,” including the 100-to-1 sentencing disparity between crack and powder cocaine offenses that was reduced to 18:1 by the Fair Sentencing Act of 2010.

This year, Attorney General Eric Holder has made a number of forceful public statements against mass incarceration in the U.S., promising significant rollback of mandatory minimums and harsh sentencing guidelines. Yet, despite his administration’s declared support for substantive criminal justice reform, until now Obama has used his power to grant clemency less frequently than nearly all other U.S. Presidents.

Mr. Obama has been under significant public pressure from advocacy groups and family members of non-violent drug offenders serving mandatory minimum sentences.

“It’s wonderful news that Obama has granted clemency to these individuals. We hope this is the just the beginning of the President using his executive powers to right the wrongs of the criminal justice system,” said Anthony Papa, Media Relations Manager for the Drug Policy Alliance, who was granted clemency in New York State in 1997 after serving 12 years under the notorious Rockefeller Drug Laws. “I hope governors with the same power at the state level follow his lead and reunite more families.”

In a statement, Mr. Obama said “If they had been sentenced under the current law, many of them would have already served their time and paid their debt to society. Instead, because of a disparity in the law that is now recognized as unjust, they remain in prison, separated from their families and their communities, at a cost of millions of taxpayer dollars each year.”

Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance said, “Kudos to President Obama for commuting these eight people. But shame on the President for not commuting many more. With over 100,000 people still behind bars on non-violent drug charges, clearly thousands more are deserving of the same freedom. Congress should act immediately to reduce the draconian federal mandatory minimum sentences that condemn thousands to decades behind bars for non-violent drug offenses.”

Contact: Tony Newman 646-335-5384 or Anthony Papa 646-420-7290


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http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/2013/12/president-obama-commute-sentences-8-crack-cocaine-cases


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Simplepowa]
    #19298272 - 12/19/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

fucking retarded. nuff said.


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: whitelights]
    #19298319 - 12/19/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

including the 100-to-1 sentencing disparity between crack and powder cocaine offenses that was reduced to 18:1 by the Fair Sentencing Act of 2010.
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So a gram of rock is equal to 18 grams of powder? That's still retarded. And racist.


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Simplepowa] * 1
    #19298365 - 12/19/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This sounds like the president pardoning a turkey each year to make eating tons of it palatable to the masses. If they were punish unjustly then help change the law for everyone, not just 8 people


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #19298373 - 12/19/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The pardoning of the turkey came about by chance..........There was never any intention to "make eating turkies palatable"

Americans were eating plenty of turkies before President's started pardoning them


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Juicin]
    #19298394 - 12/19/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Still what I mean is pardoning 8 ex crack addicts isn't going to help any other non violent drug offenders.


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #19298418 - 12/19/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Then why did you compare the two........


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Simplepowa] * 1
    #19298435 - 12/19/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He should commute the sentences of several million people or pardon them. If I were the governor of any state I'd use my power to pardon all drug offendors in the statem period. The executive can do that. And as president he could do that nationwide too.


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19298518 - 12/19/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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He should commute the sentences of several million people or pardon them.



There aren't even a million inmates in federal prison.


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: my3rdeye]
    #19298788 - 12/19/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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So a gram of rock is equal to 18 grams of powder? That's still retarded. And racist.




is that actually how that works out? for some reason i thought something completely different.


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19298840 - 12/19/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, that's how it works.


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Enlil]
    #19299573 - 12/19/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Obama is one hell of a guy

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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: DebuteMachine] * 1
    #19300661 - 12/19/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What about the non-violent drug traffickers/produers who are still serving outrageous unnecessary sentences. Like LSD producers/dealers for instance

Some of these people were probably violent crack dealers. Most probably were.

Fuck you obama you puppet


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #19302083 - 12/20/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's nothing close to what needs to be done, but it is a step in the right direction.  The fact that a POTUS sees this issue as being important is a good, if small, first step.
















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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Learyfan]
    #19302507 - 12/20/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Simplepowa]
    #19302962 - 12/20/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The sad part about marijuana and other drug reformation is it is being heralded as "racist".  When actually it was insane to begin with.

But since we have a black president and black DOJ head, all of a sudden our drug laws are racist?  PLEASE.........


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #19302968 - 12/20/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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This sounds like the president pardoning a turkey each year to make eating tons of it palatable to the masses. If they were punish unjustly then help change the law for everyone, not just 8 people




But wait....not all of them are black.....


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Juicin] * 1
    #19303034 - 12/20/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Then why did you compare the two........




It shows the scale, or lack there of, Obama's action.  Let's imagine Obama was the leader of a village with a million people.  Continuing the fairy tale let's imagine there was a tremendous boulder purched on the hillside above said villlage that could at any moment break loose and kill everyone living beneath.

What does Obama do?  He scales the cliff and uses a hamnmer and chisel to chip off eight tiny pieces of the doom-rock, out of the hundreds of thousands remaining.  He declares justice served, because whitey put the rock there in the first place and a few people might actually live when it comes tumbling down the hill.

This is not an anti-Obama rant.  This goes out to all of the politicians, private prison owners, drug enforcement agents makings 6-figure salaries, asset-forfeiture quarterbacks,  and political lobbyists who make an astounding amount of money by blatant misuse of out-dated laws that essentially turn them into irreproachable gangs of bandits who can do whatever they want and take from whomever they want anything their blackened hearts desire.

Congratulations Obama.  In 2011 we had nearly 100,000 people in jail just for drug related offenses.  Of the people who were on probation in drug related charges, nearly 1,000,000 (yes, million witha a capital "M"), more than 450,000 were re-incarcerated for marijuana use.

So keep on, Mr. Obama.  It was clearly OK for you to smoke pot.  After all, you're part of the elite.  Hell, if you were to keep up your feverish pace of pardoning 8 drug users a year, it would only take 125,000 years to let them all out.  Good works and Godspeed to you, Mr. President


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: dokunai]
    #19303058 - 12/20/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Hell, if you were to keep up your feverish pace of pardoning 8 drug users a year, it would only take 125,000 years to let them all out.  Good works and Godspeed to you, Mr. President



Math fail, bro...it would take about 13,000 years.


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #19303088 - 12/20/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Hell, if you were to keep up your feverish pace of pardoning 8 drug users a year, it would only take 125,000 years to let them all out.  Good works and Godspeed to you, Mr. President



Math fail, bro...it would take about 13,000 years.




Double speak. 13,000 is still bad.


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: DebuteMachine]
    #19303098 - 12/20/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well, yeah...but Obama isn't there to undo lawful convictions just because some people don't agree with the law.  If you want the law changed, write to your Congressman and Senators.  Obama didn't create the laws.


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: dokunai] * 3
    #19303990 - 12/20/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What they don't mention here: one of these people "just so happens to be" the first cousin of his good buddy Deval Patrick. I wonder who the other seven are?


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: setb]
    #19306435 - 12/21/13 04:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

More corruption.  People who support corruption when it's blatently obvious that the entire thing is corrupt will have no ones but themselves to blame when it comes time to judge oneself.

So much suffering caused by negligence, by throwing one's entire life's effort into a system of repression, hate, violence, suffering and pain.

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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: MacMerdin] * 1
    #19311711 - 12/22/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The sad part about marijuana and other drug reformation is it is being heralded as "racist".  When actually it was insane to begin with.

But since we have a black president and black DOJ head, all of a sudden our drug laws are racist?  PLEASE.........




The difference in sentencing between crack and cocaine, when considering the demographic of users of each substance is rascist. It also inevitably sends more poor people to jail than rich.


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Re: President Obama to Commute Sentences for 8 in Crack Cocaine Cases [Re: FBI]
    #19313007 - 12/22/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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debt to society.




:rolleyes:

Did these people's choices cost me anything, personally, so they owe me?

And, how does caging them pay me back?


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