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DEA wants to wage war on synthetics sold online
    #19298076 - 12/19/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dec 7, 2013

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- The Drug Enforcement Administration is issuing a warning about the emerging popularity of a new set of drugs. They come mostly from China and you can buy them, often legally, on the Internet. But the DEA says they can cause serious harm.

The war on drugs is fought mainly on the streets. Undercover cops make arrests. Buy busts are their weapon of choice against the dealers.

San Francisco police Sergeant Dave Martinovich is a veteran narcotics officer who knows the drug turf well. Policing it can be difficult.

"Unfortunately there's a lot of people who use a lot of different drugs," he said.

Now the war has evolved to perhaps an even more difficult marketplace with a new set of drugs.

The battles are being fought by federal agents both on the Internet, where the drugs are sold openly, and at airports and post offices where the drugs come in. They're fought by chemists in DEA labs where they try to identify their chemical compounds.

The drugs are sold in small, colorful packages with names like "Wow" and "Purple Haze."

These are synthetic drugs. Most of them are being produced from labs in China, India, and Pakistan. The most popular are the ones that mimic bath salts and marijuana.

Synthetic bath salts are stimulants that affect the central nervous system. Synthetic marijuana is commonly known as "Spice." They're also marketed under other labels like "Mr. Nice Buy" and "Barely Legal."

"We're seeing them a lot at club parties," said Bruce Goldberg. "We're seeing them marketed in packages that are marketed specifically for the young, to our teenagers, and to young adults."

Bruce Goldberg is with the San Francisco office of the Drug Enforcement Administration. He says their research indicates the drugs are extremely dangerous.

"Taking these types of drugs can have a tremendous effect on the development of young people's brains," he said. "The purity, the strength, the side effects are all unknown."

The synthetic drugs are difficult to catch. Many of them are not designated as contraband because they have chemicals that haven't been banned yet by our government.

Once the DEA identifies that chemical through a lab analysis, the agency can then begin the process of outlawing it. But the drug producers are always trying to outsmart the DEA. It's a cat and mouse game.

"This is a way for people in the illegal drug market to try and stay one step ahead of the law, by altering the chemical compound of these synthetic drugs to make new drugs that aren't identified yet," Goldberg said.

But the DEA is making progress.

Last year federal agents won a big victory against synthetic drugs when they cracked an international drug trafficking ring and arrested more than 50 people in the U.S. and abroad. They seized massive quantities of synthetic drugs made in China. <-- referenced here https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1309/130916buffalo.htm


http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/assignment_7&id=9365506


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Re: DEA wants to wage war on synthetics sold online [Re: Ogla]
    #19299336 - 12/19/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Who is incharge of these guys......

Shorty:psychsplit:


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Re: DEA wants to wage war on synthetics sold online [Re: Shortknight] * 2
    #19299429 - 12/19/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Good luck fellas. Your  inability to fight the drug war was discovered somewhere around 70 + years ago...

And it's getting harder and harder now with every day.

Pathetic fools


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    #19299521 - 12/19/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What a weird coincidence, many Americans would like to wage war on the DEA.


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Re: DEA wants to wage war on synthetics sold online [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #19300213 - 12/19/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I take no umbridge with the fact they want to take all the shitty drugs off the street (nbombs, methylone, butylone, bath salts and spice)

them spending their time doing that instead of messing with molly and acid and weed is safer for everyone.


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Re: DEA wants to wage war on synthetics sold online [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #19300227 - 12/19/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What a weird coincidence, many Americans would like to wage war on the DEA.




ugh these fucks just dont give up. :facepalm:

I wish the people would go to war on them already. its over due.


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    #19300930 - 12/20/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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goldenroad08 said:
I take no umbridge with the fact they want to take all the shitty drugs off the street (nbombs, methylone, butylone, bath salts and spice)

them spending their time doing that instead of messing with molly and acid and weed is safer for everyone.




The old good drugs / bad drugs argument. What about the "I should have the right to put whatever I want in my body" argument? Why should anyone decide that for me? All drugs are safer when legal and quality controlled, I really don't care if you personally like them. And its debateable that MDMA is safer than methylone or butylone or MDPV. Nbomes are probably more dangerous, but what about the people the people who like them? What about their rights? If you don't like a drug don't fucking do it, seems pretty easy to me. I don't like abortion, so I don't get one, I don't like guns so I don't own one. What I won't do is tell someone else they can't get an abortion or gun or take a drug, it's no ones business but the person taking the drug.


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Re: DEA wants to wage war on synthetics sold online [Re: my3rdeye]
    #19301862 - 12/20/13 08:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Computer nerds are safer to arrest than cartel members.

They lost Marijuana, never won Cocaine, never beat heroin, cannot even touch Meth, and other Synthetics. Prescriptions are barely in their control.

Last I heard it was 8 billion dollars a year down the drain.

8 Billion that could be used in a better way, or possibly lower taxes.


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Re: DEA wants to wage war on synthetics sold online [Re: goldenroad08]
    #19302367 - 12/20/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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goldenroad08 said:
I take no umbridge with the fact they want to take all the shitty drugs off the street (nbombs, methylone, butylone, bath salts and spice)

them spending their time doing that instead of messing with molly and acid and weed is safer for everyone.







I mostly disagree with your sentiment, and with your reasoning. It is not good for them to "take the 'shitty' drugs off the street" because along with the "shitty drugs" come a lot of otherwise innocent citizens who do not deserved to be locked up for choosing to alter their consciousness. Something which should not be illegal in the first place, regardless of which chemical they choose to do it with. So what if someone else chooses to do something that is not good for them, but from which they derive pleasure? What business is it of yours?


The one point that I do agree with you on is the NBOMe drugs. And it's not only because they have proven to be harmful:  It is because of their insanely low cost, combined with how relatively easy they are to obtain, combined with the difficulty of synthesizing, or obtaining LSD, combined with the high price of LSD inevitably leads to TONS of this stuff being sold on the streets as "LSD" which angers me to no end. LSD is typically not lethal, or physically dangerous within normal dosage range, or even at tens, or even hundreds of times a normal dose. NBOMe drugs have been injurious or fatal to some even with standard doses.


So, because some drug users and dealers are huge pieces of shit and are unwilling to do the right thing for the greater good, this is the super rare exception where I fully agree with a drug being made illegal.  Sadly, there is quite a similar deal with methylone being passed off as MDMA. Which I'm also not very happy about. On the other hand, methylone is a bit less potent than MDMA, and is much closer in terms of its safety profile, IMHO, than NBOMe drugs are to LSD...


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Re: DEA wants to wage war on synthetics sold online [Re: Ogla]
    #19303459 - 12/20/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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"Unfortunately there's a lot of people who use a lot of different drugs," he said.




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Re: DEA wants to wage war on synthetics sold online [Re: Ogla]
    #19303975 - 12/20/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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losfreddy said:

The drugs are sold in small, colorful packages with names like "Wow" and "Purple Haze."

These are synthetic drugs. Most of them are being produced from labs in China, India, and Pakistan.

The most popular are the ones that mimic bath salts and marijuana.


Synthetic bath salts are stimulants that affect the central nervous system. Synthetic marijuana is commonly known as "Spice." They're also marketed under other labels like "Mr. Nice Buy" and "Barely Legal."







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