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3 weeks no pinning!? *DELETED*
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19298046 - 12/19/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wuts ur fc?
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr] 1
#19298055 - 12/19/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fruiting chamber
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19298070 - 12/19/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lol someone wanna help me out here! I need a smoke....
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19298083 - 12/19/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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:/ ?
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19298214 - 12/19/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lol...lemme try...
Are u using a sgfc? Post a pic.
3 weeks is a long time...but if it's still healthy, don't pull the plug yet, just wait for it. What are your temps? Try giving us a little more info, and you might get better answers.
For future reference, NEVER hijack someone else's thread with ur pics, especially that many times, or you'll get yourself banned.
Edit: your pics are a little blurry too...try to take clear ones...check'em b4 u upload
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: 1down5up]
#19298256 - 12/19/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thnx! Dont worry bud youll get use to it
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19301534 - 12/20/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok guyS so here is my Shotgun fruiting chamber which has about 100 holes drilled into it, about 3 inches of moist perlite and raised slightly above the ground and i have placed it by a window in my house...

Also my FC has a temp range of 73-77c.. im using mazatepec strain.. I dunked and rolled my cakes for 24hr before placing in fruiting chamber. Here are some better pics of my cake thats been sitting 3 weeks..
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19301632 - 12/20/13 06:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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make sure you're misting and fanning them, evaporation is a major pinning trigger. Also, there dont seem to be enough holes in your FC. Try to drill some more....seems like a pretty big FC for two cakes...do you have more on the way? A little more perlite wouldn't hurt either, but you're already short on head clearance. If you have a dept. store around, see if you can get a sterilite...theyr'e tall enough and you could prob get 6 cakes ina 21L, and you wouldn't need any more perlite
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: 1down5up]
#19301672 - 12/20/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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those holes don't look right, should be 2" spacing with 1/4" drill bit on all 6 sides.
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: 1down5up]
#19301682 - 12/20/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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there's not supposed to be condensation on the walls of a sgfc. did you spray the walls with water right before the pic? You should have 1/4" holes every 2" in a grid pattern. Your lid doesn't seem to have that many holes. Still weird that 2 cakes did well while 1 did nothing in the same environment.. Did you remember to give the last cake 1 week consolidation time?
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I mist 2-4 times daily and fan 4-6, i figured my holes werent right so i will fix them on my next batch and i will also look into a sterlite...i had 3 cakes in my chamber, one fruited well and had a decent 2nd flush then caught green mold and i threw it out, the second has alao had a good first flush and is now running its second flush in the chamber, however the third cake which looked the healthiest(the pics) is still sitting there with no pins..i find it strange that 2 cakes went through but this one wont budge :/ they took 2 months to colonize then i took them out not sure if they were 100% colonized plus one week...and yes i had sprayed about 15mins before the pic..
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19303767 - 12/20/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maybe you gave it more attention and inadvertently gave it more fresh air and evap by taking the lid off more often? Judging by your pics, I would think they're hurting for fresh air...
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: 1down5up]
#19304175 - 12/20/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Should i maby leave the lid off for a couple hours? And how long should i wait before trying something else...24hr re dunk? Cold shock maby?
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19304233 - 12/20/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I ve taken cakes out and left them on the counter for a couple hours and dunked, it worked out but i cant say thats wut did it for sure
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19304263 - 12/20/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmm, about how long did u leave em dunked for?
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19304271 - 12/20/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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12-24 hours
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19304303 - 12/20/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ima have to try that, i dont know what else to do being that my other cakes came out on time. is it possible that it could be some sort of water logged? cause i think i remember reading somewhere that after dunking you shouldnt mist for about a day to let it dry a bit, is this true?
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19304371 - 12/20/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes always wait for the moisture to evaporate before misting
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19304411 - 12/20/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That could very well be the problem, i misted after dunking because i had 2 other cakes that neeses misting next to it :/ so is dunking not an option anymore?
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19304452 - 12/20/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If they feel light dunk them, if they feel heavy dont
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19304457 - 12/20/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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did u innoc all jars at same time with same amount of spores? maybe it has something to do with the difference in consolidation time btw jars?
this cake took 3.5 weeks just to do this after outside was 100% in jar, plus extra week in consolidation before fruiting

same cake 2nd flush (sry spotty pic)

so in the time it took the cake to fruit those 2 shrooms, its had gotten a better handle on the middle of the cake and produced a better 2nd flush.
maybe those 2 jars were not consolidated for long enough, depending on how tight they were packed. were they home made? i think a week of consolidation is general recommendation for pf tek, but these days, if i do attempt cakes for shits and giggles or testing an iso, i leave in jar till i see knots, then dunk, roll, put in fc. the extra time i feel is worth it.
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its pretty hard and weighs 98.1g( not sure if thats too heavy)
i innoc'd all jars at the same time with the same amount of spores in the same incubation box. this is what this cake in the previous pics looked like when i decided to dunk it...

this is the same cake at innoc..

this is how my first cake's jar looked when first innoc...
 i thought it was bad because of the spotting and cloudyness and almost threw them out, decided to keep it and in the end it colonized the fasted and fruited the largest fruits ive had yet.
this is my second cake after innoc...
 which also had a good 1st and decent 2nd flush...
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19304924 - 12/20/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Y is the foil on
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19305173 - 12/20/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i was advised from an old friend that grew a long time ago and was foggy on the best methods. should there be no tin foil covering the top of the jars during incubation?
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19305207 - 12/20/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No it comes off after u sterilize,leaving it on can lead to your verm barrier getting damp
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19305239 - 12/20/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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makes sense, question..should insides of jars against the glass be wet looking or any condensation when colonized?
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19305246 - 12/20/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yep thats common
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19305266 - 12/20/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok cool, next round ill take the foil off forsure. i dont remember if the top verm layer was damp or not :/ and also i originally had 5 jars which where all innoc the same way same time and 2 of them never showed any signs of mycelium, what could have caused this??
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19305280 - 12/20/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not shakin a syringe or dumb luck
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19305302 - 12/20/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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true, so sorry i got off track with questions i just really need a lot of advice i guess lol but back to the main problem as of now, how do i get this cake to pin? is 98g too heavy for a cake?
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19305305 - 12/20/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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btw thanks for the help guys
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19305316 - 12/20/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive never weighed one lol, give it moisture/evaporation and fae and try not to handle it too much
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19306700 - 12/21/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr, ur coming up on 10,000 posts!
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19306796 - 12/21/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I noticed when i took it out of the jar it had a shade of grey in a lot of places, the top still has a slight shade of grey..
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19306805 - 12/21/13 08:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The mycelium will work its way up through the verm barrier, no worries bud just give it a sniff, rinse dunk rinse roll
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19307863 - 12/21/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cronicr is like the Great Gazoo of the shroomery site, whenever you need him, "poof" he's there lol.
Clipper, can you post a clear pic of the "grey" stuff?
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: 1down5up]
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Quote:
1down5up said: Cronicr is like the Great Gazoo of the shroomery site, whenever you need him, "poof" he's there lol.
Clipper, can you post a clear pic of the "grey" stuff?
Just giving back to the community that opened my eyes for me, keeps me sane and sober....fuck facebook
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19307908 - 12/21/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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that's right!!! Fuck, i don't even own a cell....i'm a fuckin' ninja
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: 1down5up]
#19310727 - 12/22/13 06:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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these are the best pics i was able to get...
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19311610 - 12/22/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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those are fine
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19311865 - 12/22/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sweet, all those pics where one cake..the one that has been sitting 3 weeks, i noticed this morning it had alot more white fuzz possible knotting appearing... Its the only cale left in my chamber, so im going to wait another 2-3 days and depending on its progress itll start pinning or im just going to go ahead and dry out/dunk for 24hrs and try for another week if nothing i will just discard it and start my next batch already..
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19311952 - 12/22/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wouldn't discard it bro till you're sure it's fucked. It may just be slow...as long as it's not contaminated, i'd just wait it out.
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: 1down5up]
#19312126 - 12/22/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you keep messing with it, its not going to fruit. There is such a thing as overmisting and overfanning. I would just leave it alone and mist and fan once a day or something. Just let nature take its course. I don't know if its just me but it looks a little spoiled in the middle.
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19312357 - 12/22/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dunk em Dunk em Dunk Dunk Dunk
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: Doc Seta]
#19312878 - 12/22/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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very true, one thing i deff learned during this is that patience is the most important virtue, so as a young jedi lol i shall be patient. heres an updated pic, are these knots forming or am i mistaken?...
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19313171 - 12/22/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good grass hoppa
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: Doc Seta]
#19327945 - 12/26/13 08:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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so guys i got a christmas present 2 days ago, and my cake has finally pinned!!! however, compared to how my other cakes looked when they pinned, these dont look right :/ they seem really small and stunted and dark?
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19328302 - 12/26/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Atlest you have pins and that's all that matters, as long as they don't abort. They look ok to me. Maybe the strain you used just produces darker looking mushrooms.
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: jtv56]
#19328364 - 12/26/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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All mushrooms start small then grow. I wouldn't be concerned about it.
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: DannyDGAF]
#19329253 - 12/26/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah i know, i had othet cakes fruit but these just look darker and growing very slow. I guess only time will tell..
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19329265 - 12/26/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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don't worry about it, most large fruits will come in later flushes when theres less fruits competeing for the left overs
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19330160 - 12/26/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: DannyDGAF]
#19336836 - 12/28/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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heres the cake again 2 days later and barley any growth on the mushrooms and already had to pick 2 due to being aborts :/






(srry if its too many pics, im very exact with these kinda things :p lolol)
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19336849 - 12/28/13 12:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i feel like theres too much white stuff all over it, more than any of my other cakes but yet no pins maturing....
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19336867 - 12/28/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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for example, heres a cake thats on its 3rd flush that i have in the same fruiting chamber, same environment and its developed much quicker/brighter and larger fruits...

im stumped..:/
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19336947 - 12/28/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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just give it some time man on't rush them! if there not aborts just wait it out they will take off when there ready, you may have a bacterial contam with those fluffy things sticking out but it doesn't seem to be doing too much damage, just keep an eye on them
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19348137 - 12/30/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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quick questions guys... starting to buy products for my next project. any thoughts on these products? http://midwestgrowkits.com/grow-kits.html
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19348359 - 12/30/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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if u got bit by the cultivation bug, start doing ur own prep. its easy, cheaper than that, and best of all, u have the satisfaction of knowing u did it all by urself. and man of the supplies u buy will last from grow to grow http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324 that is evilmushroom666 easy to read & follow guide on pf tek. lots of pics, informative and easy to follow. he discusses materials and ingredients too. u don't need a pc for the tek either
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Fresh air exchange like blow it out good with a fan, mist litely, could be bad genetics , u use peroxide sorry gtg bedtime
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: Doc Seta]
#19350057 - 12/31/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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nope never used peroxide :/
i feel you buliding it yourself feels better with a sense of accomplishment and all that but im a person that has to do things perfect and hates room for error, so are those kits a good idea for me? like do they work well? specially the big kit with the hoses and heat pad and humidifier...
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19350758 - 12/31/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i understand the room for error thing, i also had that fear in the beginning, but truth is, these kits have a lot of room for error too, if some/all of these jars mess up, how will u know if it was you or the kit?
its expensive, just looked at it. those tall 1/2 pints r generally not recommended, but many ppl do use them. heating pad under incubator pretty old school way of heating things up, may be dangerous to the bottom of ur jars.
digital hygrometers not the most accurate at high levels of humidity, check cigar stores for analog one.
i guess the idea for this kits FC is a PMP because of the air pump... but the pic on the site is a bit small so and not enlargeable, so i can't tell.
this still not ideal, but what about u purchasing 12 short pre sterilized 1/2 pints from a vendor, then building ur own PMP or SGFC. that will be at least $70cheaper and the building of the actual fruiting chamber is easy. Poor mans Pod I'm pretty sure u can replace the geolite with perlite with this. or look for any RogerRabbit posts and click the link in his sig (or many other members sig) for the "Let's Grow Mushrooms" video page, and watch the BRF tek to see how he builds the SGFC. u can also watch the clips and see if u feel comfortable starting from scratch, and skipping the pre made jars all together, because the preparation methods are all their and very easy to follow
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thanks man, yeah i had used the BRF videos when i did this first project but had 2 jars that never even showed signs of mycelia :/ maby i didnt shake them well enough, and i had constructed my SGFC wrong with not enough holes not big enough ether, however ive been thinking about it and ur right i should do it myself, its cheaper and i learn more from it and its the same shit really
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19350790 - 12/31/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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They look dry. Follow the advice you got earlier. If they feel light dunk them. If they feel heavy then leave them alone.
They just look dry to me.
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Better no kit ma brother, its fun to make shit yourself and that stuff doesn't work I did the noob buy kit shit yrs ago. Only thing Id recommend if u cant make Jars or Casing sub, order em. Jars can be re-used while u get ya grow on an multi flushes, n casing u cant go wrong with Out-Grows Mike is a cool guy and def has good shit. I recently bought em jar lids made of idk thick tyvek type stuff, after a few uses ya jar lids fail. Ive also bought his 4.50 1lb bag of casing mix that works great for noobs or anyone, saves the mess n time. Mention shroomery an he'll throw some free stuff in usually. As for kits I'll make u one for $10 bucks lol nah jk but seriously bro that stuffs nonsense. Stupid ass tropic humidifier doesn't work + those heats mats are not needed at all. All that stuff can be bought at a pet store or online wayyy cheaper. IME perlite works best, just add enough till ya RH reaches level, no need for any grow lights use a freaking lamp, an heat pad will just fuck up ya project. Midwestgrowkits has good jars "pre-made" for cheap an sterile, while u are getten em flushes n fruits read up n practice PF-Tek with Gypsum bro, I have a PC + Rice cooker both work but sometimes Ill pc 45 mins and steam em for 30 mins making sure to use tin foil on the bottom keep the H20 off your jars. Wallymart is ya bestfriend u can find basically everything there and make ya own Kit plus PC for cheaper than 1 Kit, a 6qrt PC is mad cheap 25-35.00US, Sterlite Container 5.00, Perlite few bucks , Verm few bucks, Coffee Grinder 9.99 an organic brown rice long works best freshly ground up. 12 1/2 pint Ball jars are like what 12.99. Make a list check it twice and get to work bro goodluck
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: Doc Seta]
#19353046 - 12/31/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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Well an Ebay member happens to sell cheap martha kits
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: Doc Seta]
#19376507 - 01/06/14 09:28 AM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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hey guys so here it is again....its been fruiting for 16 days and i think today it is finally done, but it grew mostly aborts until i stopped misting it as much..cutting down to once a day and then some grew a bit bigger the stopped. also i think it has molds on it...what do u think?




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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19376518 - 01/06/14 09:35 AM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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and btw i decided no kit, im making it on my own like i did last time, just better
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19376579 - 01/06/14 09:57 AM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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looks like you have the wilting mold or verticillium
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
#19376588 - 01/06/14 10:01 AM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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how is that caused? and any way of saving it or i have to discard?
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19376601 - 01/06/14 10:03 AM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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SEARCH IT UP AND COMPARE FIRST,oops caps lock, i'm no contam expert and i only had it once but my fruits looked just like that
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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
#19377559 - 01/06/14 02:41 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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Quote:
clipper2 said: and btw i decided no kit, im making it on my own like i did last time, just better 
awesome dude! good choice!
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When making your own kit such as a shotgun, make sure the holes are 4" above the bottom an around 2" apart , amount of holes depends on the SIZE of container, if you have a small container with 200 holes you just threw any ability to hold any RH in out the window. It's a learn on the job kinda thing so don't go drilling a million holes then be like shit my RH is 70% and have to load half the box with perlite. Good Luck hope all works out bro
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