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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19350057 - 12/31/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

nope never used peroxide :/

i feel you buliding it yourself feels better with a sense of accomplishment and all that but im a person that has to do things perfect and hates room for error, so are those kits a good idea for me? like do they work well? specially the big kit with the hoses and heat pad and humidifier...


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19350758 - 12/31/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i understand the room for error thing, i also had that fear in the beginning, but truth is, these kits have a lot of room for error too, if some/all of these jars mess up, how will u know if it was you or the kit?

its expensive, just looked at it.  those tall 1/2 pints r generally not recommended, but many ppl do use them.  heating pad under incubator pretty old school way of heating things up, may be dangerous to the bottom of ur jars.

digital hygrometers not the most accurate at high levels of humidity, check cigar stores for analog one.

i guess the idea for this kits FC is a PMP because of the air pump... but the pic on the site is a bit small so and not enlargeable, so i can't tell. 

this still not ideal, but what about u purchasing 12 short pre sterilized 1/2 pints from a vendor, then building ur own PMP or SGFC.  that will be at least $70cheaper and the building of the actual fruiting chamber is easy.
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I'm pretty sure u can replace the geolite with perlite with this.
or look for any RogerRabbit posts and click the link in his sig (or many other members sig) for the "Let's Grow Mushrooms" video page, and watch the BRF tek to see how he builds the SGFC.  u can also watch the clips and see if u feel comfortable starting from scratch, and skipping the pre made jars all together, because the preparation methods are all their and very easy to follow


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19350782 - 12/31/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

thanks man,
yeah i had used the BRF videos when i did this first project but had 2 jars that never even showed signs of mycelia :/ maby i didnt shake them well enough, and i had constructed my SGFC wrong with not enough holes not big enough ether, however ive been thinking about it and ur right i should do it myself, its cheaper and i learn more from it and its the same shit really


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19350790 - 12/31/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They look dry.  Follow the advice you got earlier.  If they feel light dunk them. If they feel heavy then leave them alone.

They just look dry to me.


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: mastercultivator]
    #19351341 - 12/31/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Better no kit ma brother, its fun to make shit yourself and that stuff doesn't work I did the noob buy kit shit yrs ago. Only thing Id recommend if u cant make Jars or Casing sub, order em. Jars can be re-used while u get ya grow on an multi flushes, n casing u cant go wrong with Out-Grows Mike is a cool guy and def has good shit. I recently bought em jar lids made of idk thick tyvek type stuff, after a few uses ya jar lids fail. Ive also bought his 4.50 1lb bag of casing mix that works great for noobs or anyone, saves the mess n time. Mention shroomery an he'll throw some free stuff in usually. As for kits I'll make u one for $10 bucks lol nah jk but seriously bro that stuffs nonsense. Stupid ass tropic humidifier doesn't work + those heats mats are not needed at all. All that stuff can be bought at a pet store or online wayyy cheaper. IME perlite works best, just add enough till ya RH reaches level, no need for any grow lights use a freaking lamp, an heat pad will just fuck up ya project. Midwestgrowkits has good jars "pre-made" for cheap an sterile, while u are getten em flushes n fruits read up n practice PF-Tek with Gypsum bro, I have a PC + Rice cooker both work but sometimes Ill pc 45 mins and steam em for 30 mins making sure to use tin foil on the bottom keep the H20 off your jars. Wallymart is ya bestfriend u can find basically everything there and make ya own Kit plus PC for cheaper than 1 Kit, a 6qrt PC is mad cheap 25-35.00US, Sterlite Container 5.00, Perlite few bucks , Verm few bucks, Coffee Grinder 9.99 an organic brown rice long works best freshly ground up. 12 1/2 pint Ball jars are like what 12.99. Make a list check it twice and get to work bro goodluck


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19353046 - 12/31/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Well an Ebay member happens to sell cheap martha kits :wink:


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19376507 - 01/06/14 09:28 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

hey guys so here it is again....its been fruiting for 16 days and i think today it is finally done, but it grew mostly aborts until i stopped misting it as much..cutting down to once a day and then some grew a bit bigger the stopped. also i think it has molds on it...what do u think?







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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19376518 - 01/06/14 09:35 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

and btw i decided no kit, im making it on my own like i did last time, just better :wink:


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19376579 - 01/06/14 09:57 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

looks like you have the wilting mold or verticillium


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
    #19376588 - 01/06/14 10:01 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

how is that caused? and any way of saving it or i have to discard?


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19376601 - 01/06/14 10:03 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

SEARCH IT UP AND COMPARE FIRST,oops caps lock, i'm no contam expert and i only had it once but my fruits looked just like that


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19377559 - 01/06/14 02:41 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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clipper2 said:
and btw i decided no kit, im making it on my own like i did last time, just better :wink:




awesome dude! good choice!


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19385963 - 01/07/14 11:58 PM (10 years, 23 days ago)

When making your own kit such as a shotgun, make sure the holes are 4" above the bottom an around 2" apart , amount of holes depends on the SIZE of container, if you have a small container with 200 holes you just threw any ability to hold any RH in out the window. It's a learn on the job kinda thing so don't go drilling a million holes then be like shit my RH is 70% and have to load half the box with perlite. Good Luck hope all works out bro


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