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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19304452 - 12/20/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If they feel light dunk them, if they feel heavy dont


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
    #19304457 - 12/20/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

did u innoc all jars at same time with same amount of spores?  maybe it has something to do with the difference in consolidation time btw jars?

this cake took 3.5 weeks just to do this after outside was 100% in jar, plus extra week in consolidation before fruiting



same cake 2nd flush (sry spotty pic)



so in the time it took the cake to fruit those 2 shrooms, its had gotten a better handle on the middle of the cake and produced a better 2nd flush.

maybe those 2 jars were not consolidated for long enough, depending on how tight they were packed.  were they home made?
i think a week of consolidation is general recommendation for pf tek, but these days, if i do attempt cakes for shits and giggles or testing an iso, i leave in jar till i see knots, then dunk, roll, put in fc.  the extra time i feel is worth it.


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19304851 - 12/20/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

its pretty hard and weighs 98.1g( not sure if thats too heavy)

i innoc'd all jars at the same time with the same amount of spores in the  same incubation box. this is what this cake in the previous pics looked like when i decided to dunk it...



this is the same cake at innoc..


this is how my first cake's jar looked when first innoc...

i thought it was bad because of the spotting and cloudyness and almost threw them out, decided to keep it and in the end it colonized the fasted and fruited the largest fruits ive had yet.

this is my second cake after innoc...

which also had a good 1st and decent 2nd flush...


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19304924 - 12/20/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Y is the foil on


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
    #19305173 - 12/20/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i was advised from an old friend that grew a long time ago and was foggy on the best methods. should there be no tin foil covering the top of the jars during incubation?


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19305207 - 12/20/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No it comes off after u sterilize,leaving it on can lead to your verm barrier getting damp


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
    #19305239 - 12/20/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

makes sense, question..should insides of jars against the glass be wet looking or any condensation when colonized?


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19305246 - 12/20/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yep thats common


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
    #19305266 - 12/20/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ok cool, next round ill take the foil off forsure. i dont remember if the top verm layer was damp or not :/ and also i originally had 5 jars which where all innoc the same way same time and 2 of them never showed any signs of mycelium, what could have caused this??


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19305280 - 12/20/13 09:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Not shakin a syringe or dumb luck


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
    #19305302 - 12/20/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

true, so sorry i got off track with questions i just really need a lot of advice i guess lol but back to the main problem as of now, how do i get this cake to pin? is 98g too heavy for a cake?


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19305305 - 12/20/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

btw thanks for the help guys


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19305316 - 12/20/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ive never weighed one lol, give it moisture/evaporation and fae and try not to handle it too much


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
    #19306700 - 12/21/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

cronicr, ur coming up on 10,000 posts!


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
    #19306796 - 12/21/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I noticed when i took it out of the jar it had a shade of grey in a lot of places, the top still has a slight shade of grey..


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: clipper2]
    #19306805 - 12/21/13 08:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The mycelium will work its way up through the verm barrier, no worries bud just  give it a sniff, rinse dunk rinse roll


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
    #19307863 - 12/21/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cronicr is like the Great Gazoo of the shroomery site, whenever you need him, "poof" he's there lol.

Clipper, can you post a clear pic of the "grey" stuff?


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: 1down5up]
    #19307898 - 12/21/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Cronicr is like the Great Gazoo of the shroomery site, whenever you need him, "poof" he's there lol.

Clipper, can you post a clear pic of the "grey" stuff?



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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: cronicr]
    #19307908 - 12/21/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

that's right!!!  Fuck, i don't even own a cell....i'm a fuckin' ninja


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Re: 3 weeks no pinning!? [Re: 1down5up]
    #19310727 - 12/22/13 06:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

these are the best pics i was able to get...



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