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Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare
    #19296967 - 12/19/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Here's a nice video clip showing what a Scumbag (Their words) Issa is.

WARNING: Rachel Maddow/ MSNBC alert

Sure it's bias, so 'REFUTIATE IT'

The clip also shows what SCUMBAGS (My words) the Republican'ts and especially Republican'ts in Texas are.


http://www.livenewschat.eu/2013/12/video-untrustworthy-scumbag-darrell-issa-travels-to-bash-obamacare/


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19298000 - 12/19/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Refutiate:burke:


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: Enlil]
    #19298017 - 12/19/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How anybody can call one of the few who is investigate the biggest collection of lying fucks untrustworthy is mindboggling.  Time after time this administration proves itself to be liars and yet this guy thinks a Congressmen actually doing his job and calling them on it is untrustworthy.  There must be some choad chugging going on.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19298276 - 12/19/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Biggest bunch of liars .... Do you remember when the bush admin promised us the iraq war would pay for itself ? How did that work out by the way? Did it pay for itself yet?
  You can lie to me about trying to give poor people health care and I'll think whatever fuck you.
Lying to me about a war will make me wanna pick you up by your neck and shake the dirty lying cold heartless dickhead fuckwad douchebagyness right out of you.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: psilynut]
    #19298345 - 12/19/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Biggest bunch of liars .... Do you remember when the bush admin promised us the iraq war would pay for itself ?




Nope
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How did that work out by the way? Did it pay for itself yet?


  Don't recall them saying it.  How much did it cost us to keep monitoring them?
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  You can lie to me about trying to give poor people health care and I'll think whatever fuck you.




That wasn't the lie.  Poor people already had health care.  It was called MedicAid.  The lie was that everybody who had insurance could keep it and their doctors.  If you want to give poor people healthcare do it.
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Lying to me about a war will make me wanna pick you up by your neck and shake the dirty lying cold heartless dickhead fuckwad douchebagyness right out of you.


Bring it.  When are you going to strangle Bill and Hill and Kerry?


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: Enlil]
    #19298895 - 12/19/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Refutiate:burke:




So I spelled it wrong

Congratulations, Sarah Palin: “Refudiate” Named Word of the Year


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19298938 - 12/19/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How anybody can call one of the few who is investigate the biggest collection of lying fucks untrustworthy is mindboggling.  Time after time this administration proves itself to be liars and yet this guy thinks a Congressmen actually doing his job and calling them on it is untrustworthy.  There must be some choad chugging going on.





Trouble is Issa is NOT doing his job, he's leaking sensitive information to CNN and is using Bill O'Reilly and Fix News as sources for his kangaroo court.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19299143 - 12/19/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How anybody can call one of the few who is investigate the biggest collection of lying fucks untrustworthy is mindboggling.  Time after time this administration proves itself to be liars and yet this guy thinks a Congressmen actually doing his job and calling them on it is untrustworthy.  There must be some choad chugging going on.





Trouble is Issa is NOT doing his job, he's leaking sensitive information to CNN and is using Bill O'Reilly and Fix News as sources for his kangaroo court.



What sensitive information is he leaking?


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19299241 - 12/19/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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How anybody can call one of the few who is investigate the biggest collection of lying fucks untrustworthy is mindboggling.  Time after time this administration proves itself to be liars and yet this guy thinks a Congressmen actually doing his job and calling them on it is untrustworthy.  There must be some choad chugging going on.





Trouble is Issa is NOT doing his job, he's leaking sensitive information to CNN and is using Bill O'Reilly and Fix News as sources for his kangaroo court.



What sensitive information is he leaking?





Watch the VID!


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19299278 - 12/19/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No rational reader is going to watch twenty-one minutes of Rachel Maddow without receiving some serious payment for doing so, so why don't you just answer the question? Here it is again:

What sensitive information is he leaking?

How hard can it be to summarize?


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: Phred]
    #19299447 - 12/19/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Watch the vid.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19299465 - 12/19/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That dude in the video is far too annoying to watch it.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19299556 - 12/19/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Watch the vid.



So you can't articulate it in your own words?

Didn't think so.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: Phred]
    #19299621 - 12/19/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I watched it once, I don't need to watch it again.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: psilynut]
    #19299683 - 12/19/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Biggest bunch of liars .... Do you remember when the bush admin promised us the iraq war would pay for itself ?





Does this mean it is Bushes fault because Obama is a shitass, arrogant, lying cocksucker?  :smirk:

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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19299694 - 12/19/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yes


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19300021 - 12/19/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I watched it once, I don't need to watch it again.



Thanks for warning us.  This reminds me of something about food.  "Here, try this, it tastes awful."


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19300623 - 12/19/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Biggest bunch of liars .... Do you remember when the bush admin promised us the iraq war would pay for itself?

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Does this mean it is Bushes fault because Obama is a shitass, arrogant, lying cocksucker? 









  No it means the two party's lies are different , but Maybe ,  not much of a standard to live up to .  Wanna see arrogance ?

""'the cost of the occupation, the cost for the military administration and providing for a provisional [civilian] administration, all of that would come out of Iraqi oil."

  That's paul wolfotits back in 03 saying , war will pay for Itself. There was a shitload of lying about how it all would be paid for. We know how obamacare will be paid for , ask Zappa.
   
    Maybe it's just me I'd rather have a bunch of fucks lying to me about healthcare bullshit  than unprincipled scociopaths lying to me about how we can cut taxes and go kill people with tanks , jets , aircraft carriers and helicopters.  Bush 1 raised taxes to pay the first round of iraq , the dipshit he should have jerked off into the toilet , bush 2 said don't worry about tax cuts guys this war is a selfy .  That couldn't possibly of affected us long term right?

  This Obama care wine has become like a song they play on the radio too much. Isn't there anything else. I heard obama might be gay. Looks gay .


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: psilynut]
    #19302235 - 12/20/13 10:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I do not recall Bush saying the war would pay for itself.  Perhaps you can provide a cite.  I also asked if you are going to hold Bill, Hill and Kerry accountable for the same "lies".  Well?  Are you?


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19302447 - 12/20/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Based on what I have read, Obamacare is really shitty, unorganized, poorly planned program.

I didn't watch the video, but I'm sure the guy is almost right by bashing Obamacare


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19303016 - 12/20/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I do not recall Bush saying the war would pay for itself.  Perhaps you can provide a cite.  I also asked if you are going to hold Bill, Hill and Kerry accountable for the same "lies".  Well?  Are you?





Wolfowitz: "We're dealing with a country that could really finance its own reconstruction." As Think Progress noted, then-Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz testified before Congress on March 27, 2003, that "the oil revenues of that country [Iraq] could bring between 50 and 100 billion dollars over the course of the next two or three years. Now, there are a lot of claims on that money, but that's --- we're not dealing with Afghanistan that's a permanent ward of the international community. We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon." - See more at: http://crooksandliars.com/heather/wolfowitz-spins-his-iraq-can-pay-its-own

Sunday, January 19, 2003:
--Q: Mr. Secretary, on Iraq, how much money do you think the Department of Defense would need to pay for a war with Iraq?
--A (Rumsfeld): Well, the Office of Management and Budget, has come up come up with a number that's something under $50 billion for the cost. How much of that would be the U.S. burden, and how much would be other countries, is an open question. I think the way to put it into perspective is that the estimates as to what September 11th cost the United States of America ranges high up into the hundreds of billions of dollars. Now, another event in the United States that was like September 11th, and which cost thousands of lives, but one that involved a -- for example, a biological weapon, would be -- have a cost in human life, as well as in billions, hundreds of billions of dollars, that would be vastly greater.
Oil and War in Iraq have been inextricably intertwined, it seems, in the war plans of both the Pentagon and the oil industry--otherwise known as "Big Oil"--long before the recent war in Iraq.
However, in the words of one US oil company executive, the plans for Iraq's oil "'all turned out a lot more complicated than anyone had expected'. Instead of the anticipated post-invasion rapid expansion of Iraqi production (an expectation of an additional 2m b/d entering the world market by now), the continuing violence of the insurgency has prevented Iraqi exports from even recovering to pre-invasion levels."

3/27/03 testimony before a Senate Appropriations Hearing
a. Rumsfeld:
I don't believe that the United States has the responsibility for reconstruction, in a sense...[Reconstruction] funds can come from those various sources I mentioned: frozen assets, oil revenues and a variety of other things, including the Oil for Food, which has a very substantial number of billions of dollars in it.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #19303039 - 12/20/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

None of those quotes claim that the war would pay for itself.  Do you have anything better, or were you just lying as usual?


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    #19303054 - 12/20/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The Bush administration claimed at its outset that the Iraq war would finance itself out of Iraqi oil revenues. When Bush’s National Economic Council director Lawrence Lindsey told the Wall Street Journal that the war would cost between $100 billion and $200 billion, he came under intense fire from others in the administration who claimed that this was a gross overestimation, and he was forced to resign.


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    #19303062 - 12/20/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Where is your source for this claim?
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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: Enlil]
    #19303123 - 12/20/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

American forces secured the oil fields to prevent another epic ecological holocaust like the Desert Storm oil well fires set by Iraqi forces, and to ensure oil markets/prices stayed stable during hostilities.

stealing Iraqi oil to defray the war costs is some Saddam Hussein type shit. Uncontainable even by todays political climate. We have plenty of our own, were just not allowed to get at it


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    #19303136 - 12/20/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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American forces secured the oil fields to prevent another epic ecological holocaust like the Desert Storm oil well fires set by Iraqi forces, and to ensure oil markets/prices stayed stable during hostilities.

stealing Iraqi oil to defray the war costs is some Saddam Hussein type shit. Uncontainable even by todays political climate. We have plenty of our own, were just not allowed to get at it




And if we got "IT" would we "KEEP" it or "SELL" it?


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19303158 - 12/20/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Rove claims Bush administration never said Iraqi oil would help pay for war

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/03/14/rove-iraq-oil /

Rove Falsely Claims Bush Administration Never Said Iraqi Oil Revenue Would Help Pay For War

In his new book and in recent media appearances promoting it, former top Bush aide Karl Rove has been revising the history of the Iraq war, particularly regarding the issue of Saddam Hussien’s alleged weapons of mass destruction.

Today on NBC’s Meet the Press, Rove continued with his Iraq war history revision campaign. Noting that the Bush administration had mishandled the management of the war, host Tom Brokaw mentioned that “the cost of the war skyrocketed almost from the beginning. There was not a sharing of the oil revenue that a lot of people had promised.” But Rove flatly denied that the Bush administration said Iraqi oil revenues would help pay for the war:

ROVE: No, no. Tom with all due respect that was not the policy of our government that we were going to go into Iraq and take their resources in order to pay for the cost of the war. … he suggestion that somehow or another the administration had as its policy, “We’re going to go in to Iraq and take their resource and pay for the war” is not accurate.


Rove’s claim is simply not true. In fact, days after the U.S. invasion, then-Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz told a congressional panel that Iraqi oil revenues would help pay for reconstructing the country, i.e. a cost of the war. “The oil revenue of that country could bring between 50 and 100 billion dollars over the course of the next two or three years. We’re dealing with a country that could really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon,” he said.

One month before the war, then-White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said Iraq “is a rather wealthy country. … And so there are a variety of means that Iraq has to be able to shoulder much of the burden for their own reconstruction.”

Since the start of the Iraq war, the U.S. has spent tens of billions of dollars in reconstruction costs


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    #19303216 - 12/20/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The U.S. Government is the Largest Holder of Iraqi Dinar Outside of Iraq

Does that really come as a surprise?

The U.S. Treasury does not officially list the Iraqi dinar as part of the country's forex reserves.

New Iraqi Dinar
However, the Treasure does say it did an initial currency swap with Iraq to fund their government and Ministries...

Exactly how many dinars were traded is not mentioned, but it does make reference to “billions of U.S. dollars” traded to Iraq.

About two months ago, Iraqi dinars could no longer be purchased; the recent Dodd Frank bill appears to have legislation related to the revaluation of a foreign currency and preventing mass hysteria.

From what I have been able to gather, it sounds like this plan was originally put together by George Bush, Dick Cheney, Alan Greenspan, and others years ago as a way for the U.S. government to be repaid (read: get kickbacks) for their efforts in Iraq.

Experts speculate the U.S. government received nearly 4 trillion Iraqi dinars at an exchange rate of 4,000 dinar to USD1.

If this is even close to true — and the UN allows Iraq to revalue their currency up to USD1: one Iraqi dinar — the U.S. government would stand to profit in trillions... as would anyone else who speculated on the dinar over the years.

Bush’s statement, “This is a war that will pay for itself,” will be true 10 times over.


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    #19303253 - 12/20/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Interview with Vice-President Dick Cheney, NBC, "Meet the Press," Transcript for March 16, 2003.


Interview with Vice-President Dick Cheney, NBC, "Meet the Press," Transcript for March 16, 2003.
MR. RUSSERT: Every analysis said this war itself would cost about $80 billion, recovery of Baghdad, perhaps of Iraq, about $10 billion per year. We should expect as American citizens that this would cost at least $100 billion for a two-year involvement.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: I can’t say that, Tim. There are estimates out there. It’s important, though, to recognize that we’ve got a different set of circumstances than we’ve had in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan you’ve got a nation without significant resources. In Iraq you’ve got a nation that’s got the second-largest oil reserves in the world, second only to Saudi Arabia. It will generate billions of dollars a year in cash flow if they get back to their production of roughly three million barrels of oil a day, in the relatively near future.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19303324 - 12/20/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Bush isn't president any more. Barry 0 is. If the oil holdings are true that means Barack is the biggest oil man since Bush. Also means he's been artificially pumping oil prices by withholding supply.

I need some new talking points, thanks.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19303350 - 12/20/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So, basically, you made up your claim that Bush said that the war would pay for itself.  And you're calling someone else an "untrustworthy scumbag"?


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    #19303397 - 12/20/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Where did I make up any claim?


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    #19303403 - 12/20/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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So, basically, you made up your claim that Bush said that the war would pay for itself.  And you're calling someone else an "untrustworthy scumbag"?




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    #19305312 - 12/20/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Interview with Vice-President Dick Cheney, NBC, "Meet the Press," Transcript for March 16, 2003.


Interview with Vice-President Dick Cheney, NBC, "Meet the Press," Transcript for March 16, 2003.
MR. RUSSERT: Every analysis said this war itself would cost about $80 billion, recovery of Baghdad, perhaps of Iraq, about $10 billion per year. We should expect as American citizens that this would cost at least $100 billion for a two-year involvement.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: I can’t say that, Tim. There are estimates out there. It’s important, though, to recognize that we’ve got a different set of circumstances than we’ve had in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan you’ve got a nation without significant resources. In Iraq you’ve got a nation that’s got the second-largest oil reserves in the world, second only to Saudi Arabia. It will generate billions of dollars a year in cash flow if they get back to their production of roughly three million barrels of oil a day, in the relatively near future.





Tell me where Bush/Cheney said in this statement that Iraq will pay for himself. 

All cheney says is 1) There are estimates on the cost 2) that iraq has oil that will generate billion of dollars in cash flow.  No where did he say 'that cashflow will go to the US'


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    #19308664 - 12/21/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Interview with Vice-President Dick Cheney, NBC, "Meet the Press," Transcript for March 16, 2003.
MR. RUSSERT: Every analysis said this war itself would cost about $80 billion, recovery of Baghdad, perhaps of Iraq, about $10 billion per year. We should expect as American citizens that this would cost at least $100 billion for a two-year involvement.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: I can’t say that, Tim. There are estimates out there. It’s important, though, to recognize that we’ve got a different set of circumstances than we’ve had in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan you’ve got a nation without significant resources. In Iraq you’ve got a nation that’s got the second-largest oil reserves in the world, second only to Saudi Arabia. It will generate billions of dollars a year in cash flow if they get back to their production of roughly three million barrels of oil a day, in the relatively near future.


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    #19308670 - 12/21/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Which does absolutely not one thing to substantiate your claim.  Learn English.


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    #19308681 - 12/21/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

READ the answer in context with the question.

MR. RUSSERT: We should expect as American citizens that this would cost at least $100 billion for a two-year involvement.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: In Iraq you’ve got a nation that’s got the second-largest oil reserves in the world, second only to Saudi Arabia. It will generate billions of dollars a year in cash flow if they get back to their production of roughly three million barrels of oil a day, in the relatively near future.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19308756 - 12/21/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:facepalm:

How many times are you going to quote the same non sequitur bullshit? 

It's painfully obvious that you lied, and that you're the untrustworthy one.


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    #19308872 - 12/21/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think English is her first language.  Maybe French Canadian.


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    #19309514 - 12/21/13 08:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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READ the answer in context with the question.

MR. RUSSERT: We should expect as American citizens that this would cost at least $100 billion for a two-year involvement.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: In Iraq you’ve got a nation that’s got the second-largest oil reserves in the world, second only to Saudi Arabia. It will generate billions of dollars a year in cash flow if they get back to their production of roughly three million barrels of oil a day, in the relatively near future.





sweeper, polys do this all the time.  They say something and carefully word it so that they can claim it isn't what they said.  Obama is a master at doing this. 

What you THINK HE SAYS and what he says are two different things.  In that Cheney said that Iraq's oil reserves will generate billions of dollars a year in cash flow.  No where does Cheney state 'we be getting a piece of that pie' even though it seems to be implied.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19310752 - 12/22/13 06:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

And if a Dem had said it the pubs would have held them to it.

Enough people in that regime said enough times, oil will pay for our costs.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19310809 - 12/22/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What difference does it matter who would have said it, as it clearly doesn't say what you seem to think it does?


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    #19311192 - 12/22/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

These people make a living carefully parsing their statements.  There was no "implication".  He said what he meant and he meant exactly what he said, which is not what you said he said.


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    #19311707 - 12/22/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Deny whatever you want, these two clowns said the war would be paid for by the Iraqis

Wolfowitz: "We're dealing with a country that could really finance its own reconstruction."

As Think Progress noted, then-Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz testified before Congress on March 27, 2003,  We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon."



3/27/03 testimony before a Senate Appropriations Hearing
a. Rumsfeld: I don't believe that the United States has the responsibility for reconstruction, in a sense...[Reconstruction] funds can come from those various sources I mentioned: frozen assets, oil revenues and a variety of other things, including the Oil for Food, which has a very substantial number of billions of dollars in it.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19311766 - 12/22/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

DO you know what the difference is between 'would' and 'could'?


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    #19311926 - 12/22/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, and it goes real well with all the other lies they told.


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Re: Untrustworthy Scumbag Darrell Issa travels to bash Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #19312435 - 12/22/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What lies?  Cheney is not the liar you are exposing


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    #19312487 - 12/22/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't care where the thread goes Cheney, Dumbsfeld, Issa their all liars.


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    #19316866 - 12/23/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

And so have you proven yourself.


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