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    #19295939 - 12/19/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So I was watching a documentary today on the lifestyle of certain Native American tribes, and one section of the doc discussed hunting and preparing meat for the rest of the tribe. Obviously there was no legitimate footage but they interviewed some real old relatives who talked about how they would chase after buffalo on horse and they would drag it back and thank the earth for providing such food. Now I'm not a religious person, but I had a lot of respect for the appreciation and thankfulness they expressed towards the earth and the animal. The animal was also slaughtered and prepared in a wooden teepee style house.

After finishing the doc, I started thinking about our modern day meat industry and how cold and disconnected it seemed when compared to the process of hunting performed by native Americans. I mean, the whole thing seems so much colder, dirtier, more unnatural. Just watching clips of some modern day slaughterhouses makes me quite uncomfortable. I understand that they're necessary, meat is sold on a huge scale and we dont all have time to go out and hunt our buffalo. I do hope though that in the future, we improve our slaughter houses, right now they just look disgustingly industrial. I've got a bias against stuff like that though.

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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: OliverJames]
    #19295959 - 12/19/13 12:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do you eat meat ? They aren't don't have to be necessary.


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: OliverJames]
    #19295971 - 12/19/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's best not to think about it IMO. I have enough things to be disgusted and feel guilty about.


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #19295980 - 12/19/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I did not eat any meat other than fish for about 2 years, but recently started reintroducing myself. I started with Bison and Beef, but of which I have been heavily enjoying. I want to try some of the gamey meats such as elk and kangaroo. Are you saying slaughterhouses aren't necessary? I don't see how they couldnt be, there are a ton of people who eat meat and the animals gotta be prepared somehow. I just about the cleanliness and design are improved as we move forward


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: LordSenate] * 1
    #19295983 - 12/19/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It's best not to think about it IMO. I have enough things to be disgusted and feel guilty about.




I feel you, but I'll be honest, tripping makes me feel obligated to think about it and understand it. I'm putting this stuff into my own body, I should understand the origin should I do not?


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: OliverJames] * 1
    #19296006 - 12/19/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah it's fucked up.  Then again, life is painful and fucked up.  It's the nature of the beast, so to speak.

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I do hope though that in the future, we improve our slaughter houses, right now they just look disgustingly industrial.



How would you improve on an industrial, mechanized way of killing animals?

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Now I'm not a religious person, but I had a lot of respect for the appreciation and thankfulness they expressed towards the earth and the animal. The animal was also slaughtered and prepared in a wooden teepee style house.



There are rituals present in slaughterhouses sometimes.  It's called "kosher".


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: OliverJames]
    #19296013 - 12/19/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah. I hate to admit it but I have enough stuff on my plate. I honestly can't handle trying to understand and process anymore information that I already know.


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: Set]
    #19296077 - 12/19/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yea I really don't know exactly how I'd improve it. Were definitely not goin back to Native American style prep, its too inefficient.

Gonna sound idealistic, probably wont come to this for many years, but I imagine a ultra clean assembly line style operation, utilizing some sort of flash to render the animal unconscious as well as lasers to cut and trim away at the body. Vacuum sealed chambers, completely sterile, all white, operated by mech arms. Quiet, quick, efficient. Just brainstorming :shrug:

I don't bother lecturing people about it, its not my place, but part of me just finds it sorta fucked up that people will gladly indulge in a slab of bacon but cannot for the life of them watch the pig being raised, slaughtered, packaged, and sent out. Just huge amounts of disconnect

For the same reason that a lot of people find surgery disgusting. I used to, but I've been trying to expose myself to it as of recently, I think its important to understand the physical internal aspect of ourselves.

I'm not saying everybody else has too haha, these are just personal dilemmas I've been thinkin about for a while, mostly induced by tripping, strange what the ole mushrooms will do to ya


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: OliverJames] * 1
    #19296097 - 12/19/13 12:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I do believe we do not respect the earth enough for what it gives us. Thats one thing
i really admire about the native americans. You'll find a lot of hunters, and farmers
who feel the same.


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: OliverJames]
    #19296109 - 12/19/13 12:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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people will gladly indulge in a slab of bacon



I hear you.  The world is fucked, might as well accept it though.

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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: Set]
    #19296116 - 12/19/13 01:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I suppose you are right :feelsbadman:


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: OliverJames]
    #19296573 - 12/19/13 04:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with most of the sentiments in this thread.
I plan to live in unison with the land as best I can one day, but unfortunately it is currently beyond my meager means.


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #19296587 - 12/19/13 04:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think we should suspend all animal slaughter until we've invented a means to communicate with the animals we want to eat. Then, if they give consent to being killed and eaten, it's okay.


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #19296606 - 12/19/13 05:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I doubt they would consent. :lol:

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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #19296610 - 12/19/13 05:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They're swedish yule goat costumes! The yule goat comes on yule eve to deliver presents or kidnap kids, depending on the story. Like a creepier and less jolly santy claus. I'm making a goat mask right now!


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #19296660 - 12/19/13 05:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Somebody tried to show me one of those slaughterhouse "scare tactics" films, It made me hungry. I'm Texan. :shrug:


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19296680 - 12/19/13 05:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The episode of South Park where the calf is born onto the conveyor and immediately gets chopped up did it for me.


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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19296690 - 12/19/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Somebody tried to show me one of those slaughterhouse "scare tactics" films, It made me hungry. I'm Texan. :shrug:



I'm also a Texan, and worked on a cattle ranch for a little while.
It's still deeply disturbing to me no matter how I look at it.
That doesn't mean I'll refuse to eat the burger placed in front of me...that I maybe ordered on my own accord because it sounded damn tasty.

This society is filled with lots of ethical dilemmas like this which is why I hope to eventually live purely by my own means one day.


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    #19296693 - 12/19/13 05:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Slaughterhouses [Re: OliverJames]
    #19296695 - 12/19/13 05:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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