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OregonMushys
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Preping Spawn Bags Questions
#19295443 - 12/18/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im going to prepare 12 spawn bags, and i had some questions.
-How many qts of rye can fit in a spawn bag, or how many cups should i measure per bag?
-After sterilization time is up, can i take the bags out as soon as pressure indicator thing drops, put the bags in a storage tote, and proceed as quick as possible to sterilizing more? Or will temporarily storing them ruin the vacuum and invite contams?
-Must i wait until they settle down to room temp to take them out the PC?
-How many bags can i fit per PC cycle?
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Re: Preping Spawn Bags Questions [Re: OregonMushys]
#19295587 - 12/18/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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are you talking soaked grain in the bags then pc'ing it or are you putting the grain water and gypsum in the bags first then sealing and pressure cooking cause if thats the case 5 cups of grain will make for a very large bag of spawn and if its a 23 qt pressure cooker i would do two to be safe but i have racks that was able to fit in mine and was able to fit four
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OregonMushys
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Yup how many qts of already soaked/hydrated grains can fit in a bag? Im gonna g2g a whole jar per bag... N ya im trying to fit 4 bags per cycle is that too much? Maybe 3per cycle?. I dont wanna go ahead and soak 24 cups of rye now and not be sure what im doing is correct.
ima go to sleep now and think on it
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Re: Preping Spawn Bags Questions [Re: OregonMushys]
#19296005 - 12/19/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I need this info too, looking forward to answers. I have the 23qt presto aswell
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OregonMushys
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Re: Preping Spawn Bags Questions [Re: KnownPown]
#19297329 - 12/19/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Still got the two questions in the air...
Do i gotta wait until the PC settles to room temp so the bags form a vaccuum? Or do they have the vacuum formed as soon as the lid is open-able? Im trying to get 12 bags done asap, so im trying to take them out the cooker right when the pressure regulator drops to put more in.
Will removing bags from the PC right away ruin their vacuum? Can i store them somewhere for a day or two as i PC more, or will they lose the vacuum and invite contams?
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Re: Preping Spawn Bags Questions [Re: OregonMushys]
#19297394 - 12/19/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
OregonMushys said:
-How many qts of rye can fit in a spawn bag, or how many cups should i measure per bag?
-How many bags can i fit per PC cycle?
I can usually fit 2 quarts in a 2 quart bag or 4 quarts in a 4 quart bag... how big are your bags....
How big are your bags and how big is your PC...
I always let things cool down, don't rush things. You're not going to invite contams the second you open the lid of the PC you're inviting contams...
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OregonMushys
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Re: Preping Spawn Bags Questions [Re: bodhisatta]
#19297508 - 12/19/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I mean, will they have their vacuum right when the lid can be opened or do they form that vacuum as it cools to room temp? I wanna take em out, store them in totes or something and immediately start prepn more bags asap since i gotta do 12 bags and i dont want it to take 4-5 days.
Do they lose their vacuum if i let them sit for a day or 2 in a storage tote?
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Re: Preping Spawn Bags Questions [Re: OregonMushys]
#19299267 - 12/19/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im bouta PC bags now. What ima do is use tyvek envelopes instead of the sleeves. How should i out the envelopes in? Ima cut em in half so i got 2 pieces of tyvek paper and put one in each little fold.
Oh n. Must i wait until room temp for them to form a vacuum or are they in a vacuum right when the lid can be opened?
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Re: Preping Spawn Bags Questions [Re: OregonMushys]
#19300173 - 12/19/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Search for amu They got a diy spawn bag topics.
Sorry I don't have a link, on my phone
original poster is 13shrooms. Awesome information!
Edited by blojo02184 (12/19/13 09:33 PM)
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Re: Preping Spawn Bags Questions [Re: OregonMushys]
#19300246 - 12/19/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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use the bags with the filter patch out, filled with sub. roll the bag up, with the filter patch out. roll in foil. cap top with foil. like a foil covered log , standing on end...pc for grains or coir sub. dont use too much grain per bag or your open for bacterial contam before full colonization.
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Re: Preping Spawn Bags Questions [Re: bluecap]
#19302952 - 12/20/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Should i be wiping down the spawn bags with iso prior to setting them in the SAB? Like wipe the top of the outer edge of the bag? Or no? Im goin for it right now
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Re: Preping Spawn Bags Questions [Re: OregonMushys]
#19303488 - 12/20/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just follow the instructions for the TEK you're using. You obviously haven't grasped the concepts behind using bags yet, so until you do, do it exactly like you're told. Once you get some experience, you'll figure out exactly what you can & can't get away with.
I fill mine with enough grain for one tub, pre-seal, put 3 bags in my PC and run it for 2 hours. I open it as soon as pressure drops, and the bags blow the fuck up (but not pop) as soon as I open the lid. I let them cool and inject a fuckload of LC.
If you don't have a flowhood, this is the easiest, most efficent way to do bags, although I do worry about the popping in the PC sometimes from being pre-sealed. You also have to take the time to get a clean LC and test it.
If you have a flowhood, follow RR's TEK. Except I don't like the twist tie method. I prefer to seal mine after they come out of the PC if I have a flowhood.
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Re: Preping Spawn Bags Questions [Re: 36fuckin5]
#19303913 - 12/20/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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His demo video doesn't say whether to wipe the outside of the bags with iso or not. I just went ahead and did. I had the full vids but their files are corrupted. I went ahead and emptied a qt of colonized grains in the bag in a SAB and zip tied it closed in the top.
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Re: Preping Spawn Bags Questions [Re: OregonMushys]
#19303927 - 12/20/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Of course you wipe it with IPA. Anything that can't be flamed must be disinfected.
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