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Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me.....
    #19294992 - 12/18/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Over the last forty years. Democrat and Republican controlled congress and Presidents have taxed us, wasted money on all kinds of shitty wars, projects, and 'stimulus', created regulations that choke companies, set up rules so their buddies in the banking industry and other various sectors of the economy could play schemes and loot the taxpayers and stockholders, spent money like drunken sailors in a whorehouse, and exempted themselves from laws and gave themselves special benefits and priviledges that the average person doesn't have.

then when someone independent of the washington insiders comes along, everyone starts screaming about obstructionism and who (name a class of people, a big buisiness, or some other entity Outside of DC) and blaming the people who want to do something about it.

government has created the problems and been at the heart of everything bad that has happened to this country, and then the media, and the people who support those 2 parties, start telling us that we need more government up our ass with a microscope, more regulations for companies.....they blame everyone except themselves, and their followers wag their tales and beg with their paws in the air and vote them into office again.

so, the government fucks everything up, then the fucking politicians and their clueless Sheep tell us we need more government to fix the problem????

WELL THEY CAN SMOOCH MY HAIRY WHITE SHINY ASS. :smug: :smirk:


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19295294 - 12/18/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

huh?


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: Confucian] * 2
    #19298215 - 12/19/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There are only 2 explanations for your full-retard posts on the government:

1) Either you have firsthand experience of being screwed over in which you falsely blamed the government (highly unlikely)

2) You are an uninformed moron (who thinks he's smart) who gets all his "news" from far-right blogs, talk radio, other uninformed moron friends, and far-right websites (highly likely)


Edited by Confucian (12/19/13 02:18 PM)


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: Confucian] * 1
    #19298351 - 12/19/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Confucian said:
There are only 2 explanations for your full-retard posts on the government:

1) Either you have firsthand experience of being screwed over in which you falsely blamed the government (highly unlikely)

2) You are an uninformed moron (who thinks he's smart) who gets all his "news" from far-right blogs, talk radio, other uninformed moron friends, and far-right websites (highly likely)



How wonderfully substantive.  I have been screwed over by the government repeatedly as has every single citizen worth a shit.


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: Confucian] * 2
    #19299616 - 12/19/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Confucian said:
There are only 2 explanations for your full-retard posts on the government:

1) Either you have firsthand experience of being screwed over in which you falsely blamed the government (highly unlikely)

2) You are an uninformed moron (who thinks he's smart) who gets all his "news" from far-right blogs, talk radio, other uninformed moron friends, and far-right websites (highly likely)





You can fall to your knees and suck the governments cock, let them stick a microscope up you ass and examine every aspect of your life, and wear a clown suit and a studded dog collar and get on your hind legs and beg when the government says to, but I stand by what I say.

THe government has caused the problems that have fucked the country up.  Period.  Government needs to GTFO of the way and let THE PEOPLE run the country.


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19299679 - 12/19/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I mostly agree with you. Yes, we are being fucked by the government. But don't you think that some system must be in place (at least for most people). I do not necessarily view "the government" as a separate entity from the citizens, at least in the United States. With the population being as high as it is and the lack of intelligence present in the majority of people (particularly those in office) I would say that most people would be lost without some kind of political infrastructure. I'm not saying that I agree with the two party system in the United States, in fact I despise it, but you can't deny that some people are incapable of surviving without it. And they cannot imagine a third party coming into the picture.


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: Horizon]
    #19299698 - 12/19/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Horizon said:
I mostly agree with you. Yes, we are being fucked by the government. But don't you think that some system must be in place (at least for most people). I do not necessarily view "the government" as a separate entity from the citizens, at least in the United States. With the population being as high as it is and the lack of intelligence present in the majority of people (particularly those in office) I would say that most people would be lost without some kind of political infrastructure. I'm not saying that I agree with the two party system in the United States, in fact I despise it, but you can't deny that some people are incapable of surviving without it. And they cannot imagine a third party coming into the picture.





Did i say I was against ALL government?  The problem with a big, overbearing statist national government is that there are too many people in too many different places, and ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL.  That is why there are supposed to be states rights.


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19299716 - 12/19/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I completely agree.


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19300964 - 12/20/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Confucian said:
There are only 2 explanations for your full-retard posts on the government:

1) Either you have firsthand experience of being screwed over in which you falsely blamed the government (highly unlikely)

2) You are an uninformed moron (who thinks he's smart) who gets all his "news" from far-right blogs, talk radio, other uninformed moron friends, and far-right websites (highly likely)



How wonderfully substantive.  I have been screwed over by the government repeatedly as has every single citizen worth a shit.





wow, i cant tell if this person is serious or not. this is as far as i got through this thread with out being overwhelmed by someone's stupidity. impressive. some people are antiauthoritarians mr or ms con, some are authoritarians..like you it seems. lets just reflect on history a bit eh? hmmm, yeah. your ilk, even if under different names and causes has been the worst proliferater of human atrocities in all of history. congratulations.

good intentions though eh? pfft. ideologues.


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19300970 - 12/20/13 01:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
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Confucian said:
There are only 2 explanations for your full-retard posts on the government:

1) Either you have firsthand experience of being screwed over in which you falsely blamed the government (highly unlikely)

2) You are an uninformed moron (who thinks he's smart) who gets all his "news" from far-right blogs, talk radio, other uninformed moron friends, and far-right websites (highly likely)





You can fall to your knees and suck the governments cock, let them stick a microscope up you ass and examine every aspect of your life, and wear a clown suit and a studded dog collar and get on your hind legs and beg when the government says to, but I stand by what I say.

THe government has caused the problems that have fucked the country up.  Period.  Government needs to GTFO of the way and let THE PEOPLE run the country.




im with you, only fully corrupt people far removed or complete zealots are authoritarians (like this con person). ive been fighting those motherfuckers since i was six.
surprise, now we live in a g o novel.


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: sixxy]
    #19301362 - 12/20/13 04:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do you nutters not believe in tax?!?


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... *DELETED* [Re: EddYerb]
    #19301373 - 12/20/13 04:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: EddYerb]
    #19301467 - 12/20/13 05:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

NAFTA, ACA, Iraq and Afghanistan, NSA, Patriot Act, Inflation, IRS, EPA,War Powers Act and drone strike programs

that's off the top of my head


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: myc_check1212]
    #19301973 - 12/20/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The number 1 problem in America:

- The people see the government as the enemy instead of a teammate.


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19302004 - 12/20/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The number 1 problem in America:

- The people see the government as the enemy instead of a teammate.



Yea the teamate that steals my wealth through taxation and gives it to a parasitic class of americans who do not even contribute to the system. When welfare programs are brought under control and the state is restrained in its ability to spend money then I will view them more favorabley.


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: Patlal]
    #19302115 - 12/20/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The number 1 problem in America:

- The people see the government as the enemy instead of a teammate.




You have brought up a valid point. The government is a system that any American can contribute to.


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #19302140 - 12/20/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
The number 1 problem in America:

- The people see the government as the enemy instead of a teammate.



Yea the teamate that steals my wealth through taxation and gives it to a parasitic class of americans who do not even contribute to the system. When welfare programs are brought under control and the state is restrained in its ability to spend money then I will view them more favorabley.




The welfare budget represents only 10% of the federal budget and has pregressivelly been reduced in the last 5 years. If we take the breakdown of this 10% you'll realize that maybe 2 to 3 percent represent money going to families and children, another 2 to 3 percent goes to unemployment, then the last 4 to 6 percent goes to social exclusive (illnesses).

I think you just pick on these people for no good reasons. The defense budget represents 22% of all spending. more than twice what the welfare system costs.

If you absolutely want to pick on someone, you most definitely should pick on the elderly. They represent 23% of the total spending and they are also sucking the healthcare budget dry (healthcare is 26% of the budget).

The defense budget and old people is what's killing America, not the welfare class.


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: Patlal]
    #19302227 - 12/20/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You mean the old people who were ripped off for decades?


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19303076 - 12/20/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

By healthcare you mean picking up the bill/outright providing for people who can't/wont take care of themselves? That's welfare.

I'll agree to the defense budget being too much, but even then I'm getting something for my buck. Things that go boom, things that shoot, all sorts of cool shit. Not to mention a "workforce" of hard, disciplined,motivated individuals ready at a moments notice and committed until the job is done, or until America loses stomach. Whichever comes first


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Re: Republicans and Democrats Explain Something To Me..... [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19303870 - 12/20/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
The number 1 problem in America:

- The people see the government as the enemy instead of a teammate.




Because they have demonstrated by their sleazebaggery and willingness to ignore the constitution that they are the enemy.

The number 1 problem in America IS the government.

They want and have taken too much control. They ignore laws when it suits them. They spy  on their people. They discriminate. They cheat. They trample. They change the rules in the middle of the game. They take from those who do, to give to those who don't. They stick their nose where it doesn't belong. They sell weapons to those who should not have them. They scream that slowing the rate of increase in a program is a "cut" in that program.

Our government has gone from a shining star to a crumpled shit stained wad of toilet paper.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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