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OfflineMisterKite
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Sartre Quote: Need interpretations
    #1929413 - 09/18/03 04:50 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Sartre said:

"Everything that exists is born for no reason, carries on living through weakness, and dies by accident"

What part bewilders me is the statement "[everything] carries on living through weakness" How is it that living is weakness? And if you die by committing suicide, how is that an accident? I think Sartre may have just been having a bad day.


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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: MisterKite]
    #1929465 - 09/18/03 05:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Everything that exists is born for no reason

earth is like a cancer feeding off its nutrients we don't know why were here we just are.

carries on living through weakness, and dies by accident"

that statement is kinda of a contradiction to me. but he might be triyng to say that once your born your slowly dying.

and dyes by accident, well we die just as fast as we came. and humans and all living creatures die for a reason thats why we call it an accident like we trying to give reason for death but we really can't like we can't give reason for being born and thats when the higher power comes into play.





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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: MisterKite]
    #1929659 - 09/18/03 05:51 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

" Everything that exists is born for no reason, carries on living through weakness, and dies by accident"




What a depressing thought.
Work your way on over to the "Does anyone else feel REALLY good" thread.



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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: Jellric]
    #1930166 - 09/18/03 08:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Jellric said:

What a depressing thought.
Work your way on over to the "Does anyone else feel REALLY good" thread.






Lol, yeah, it's the antidote.

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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: unlikelyhero]
    #1931053 - 09/19/03 01:34 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

"Everything that exists is born for no reason, carries on living through weakness, and dies by accident"


I think, it could be looked at as follows:

"Everything exists for no reason" - meaning seems apparent.

"Carries on living through weakness" - could be speaking about the fact that we're lead around by our weakness.. we indulge ourselves to feed our weakness.. live in accordance to the world instead of in accordance to ourselves ( i don't think that one..)... do you understand what I'm saying?

or

perhaps it means that we carry on living throughout our weakness - throughout the low points..

and "dies by accident" - a death in opposition to the living in weakness, a triumphant moment dashed upon the floor ?

I've read no Sartre as of yet, so this is random. . . soon.


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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: MisterKite]
    #1931351 - 09/19/03 03:12 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

"Everything that exists is born for no reason, carries on living through weakness, and dies by accident"

Sarte, out of context, is a bitch.
Which book, chapter, etc. is that quote from?


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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: MisterKite]
    #1931428 - 09/19/03 03:53 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Sartre was a very confused person.


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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1931607 - 09/19/03 06:36 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

He certainly doesn't sound like a winner to me... :grin:
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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: MisterKite]
    #5379494 - 03/09/06 12:02 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

If there is no purpose for life or meaning in the universe, then we are born for no reason. If we have no path we are meant to go on, no goal to achieve, then every death is an accident.

That carries on living through weakness sounds like it may be related to the existentialist philosophy of life being your own project, you being the entity thrown into existence without a guide or purpose. Therefore, he who goes on living perhaps has not taken life into his own hands, and therefore goes on because of weakness?

Context would indeed help to clarify the middle part further. Sartre was a great man, however.


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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: MisterKite]
    #5379968 - 03/09/06 03:01 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Sartre was an existentialist, so he was only invoicing this part of philosophy and ways to see life.
I myself never liked the existentialist point of view cause most of it is full of bullshit.


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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: MisterKite]
    #5380085 - 03/09/06 04:08 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

"Everything that exists is born for no reason, carries on living through weakness, and dies by accident"

If you think that life is all sunshine and cinnamon buns then this statement make absolutely no sense.

As far as the statement, it makes a lot of sense to me. As far as the "carries on living in weakness" part goes, I consider that a reflection of this state of existance over a higher existance, which many people believe in. This state of existance would seem very weak compared to the next state that they are striving to attain.


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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: MisterKite]
    #5380196 - 03/09/06 05:01 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

Sarte was as smart as a french fry acrylizsizing in vegetable oil


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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: MisterKite]
    #5380505 - 03/09/06 10:40 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

MisterKite said:
"Everything that exists is born for no reason, carries on living through weakness, and dies by accident"





I am pretty sure what he means is:
"In the end, nothing really matters...and once you understand this, and fail to end your life before you are chained down too much...then you are weak, and eventually you will have no choice, because death will take you anyways...even when you don't expect it (accident)".

All quotes in philosophy are of course open to interpretation, but I think I made an accurate portrayal of it.

Anyways, I have to agree with him. I've been feeling this way quite a bit...


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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: Darkcloud]
    #5380513 - 03/09/06 10:46 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Of course anything can be interpreted.
But the idea was to figure out what was into this dude's mind.
And I think it matters, especially how you die, to be more exact, what spiritual level you have when you die.


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Re: Sartre Quote: Need interpretations [Re: MisterKite]
    #5401549 - 03/15/06 01:10 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

MisterKite said:
Sartre said:

"Everything that exists is born for no reason, carries on living through weakness, and dies by accident"

What part bewilders me is the statement "[everything] carries on living through weakness" How is it that living is weakness?




Perhaps he means that those who are living must not have the strength to take their own lives.


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