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    #19285774 - 12/16/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

saw a mostly eaten wild piglet on my run today with a big wet paw print next to eat. do any of you shroomers live near big cats and is it worth it to find a new place to run at? i think the last instance of a panther attack in fl was 95, so i dont think im in too much danger..


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: mantirot]
    #19285894 - 12/16/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

used to be bobcats all over the place when i lived in the mountains. at one point, there was one living under our house for a bit. there were mountain lions too, but not as common.


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: mantirot]
    #19285904 - 12/16/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Did you look at the print?


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: schwarg]
    #19285905 - 12/16/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My sister used to live with a young child in the deep deep boonies of Idaho and would not walk without a handgun of significance because of the cats and bears.


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19285930 - 12/16/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

sexy time!


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: mantirot]
    #19286040 - 12/16/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

dawn and dusk are their most active hours for hunting, so if you are especially worried avoid running at those times.

to be honest though, the big cats of north america don't especially scare me--they are incredible shy and it's not normal for them to see a fully grown human as a food source

i would be more concerned if you had small children or pets



source: i've spent a lot of time camping on the north end of vancouver island--this area features an especially dense cougar population and is where the highest proportion of cougar attacks have occurred--i ain't ate yet!


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #19286095 - 12/16/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:

If you're a very little person who likes to run in the dark then I would be worried.
Also, large cats have quite the range. Even if you find a new route to run you are likely still in the animal's territory.


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19287938 - 12/17/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

im going to go back there today and try to get pics of the carcass and pawn prints.


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: mantirot] * 1
    #19287947 - 12/17/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Be sure to stuff your pockets full of Catnip first...:angrycat: . . . :peace:


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: vinsue]
    #19287966 - 12/17/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Six feet under


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: koods]
    #19287979 - 12/17/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:nicekitty:  . . . :peace:


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: vinsue]
    #19288147 - 12/17/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldnt study it

the big cats stay away from humans


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19290548 - 12/17/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't worry about it personally. They don't attack often at all. Plus they have a huge range like someone said earlier. They make huge loops though that can take them two weeks to complete. So he probably only passes through that area every week or two. I'd be more worried about some crazy neighbors pittbull attacking you honestly.


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: d0urd3n]
    #19292575 - 12/18/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

A couple years ago there was a cougar that got hit by a car in Connecticut. They did a DNA test and discovered it was the same animal that had been seen a few months earlier in Wisconsin.


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: koods]
    #19292681 - 12/18/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've heard one at a buddy's house in WI, nowhere near its usually territory. Nearly a subdivision. They can wander around quite a bit.


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: jsad316]
    #19292701 - 12/18/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I prefer that big cats stay hidden, humans are more danger to them than they are to us....  Almost all big cats are in decline.


if you're running by yourself though, a cougar could easily stalk you for a long time before making a move.


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: Herbologist]
    #19292815 - 12/18/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The danger of cats and bears in the continental United States is vastly overstated.  It's a classic example of the Availability Bias (see Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic, read the paragraph under the heading Media for an explanation that hits right at this topic).  Because its violent, scary, and gets a lot of media attention, people way over-estimate the chances of occurrence.

I grew up in the mountains and have spent more than my fair share of time in the outdoors backpacking, hiking, hunting, and skiing.  After 30 years, I FINALLY saw my first mountain lion, and it happened to be walking through my backyard, of all places. 

Yes, it does happen.  There was an instance of a woman being killed by a cat a number of years ago in Newport Beach, of all places.  Changing your running route though?  I wouldn't bother.  The only large predator I honestly consider a credible threat are grizzly bears (i.e. NOT black bears) but they basically don't range in the lower 48 with the exception of small parts of Wyoming and Montana, I believe, and even then our judgements of grizzly bear risk are subject to availability bias, just like everything else.

The idea of walking with a gun in Idaho because of cat and bear risk is patently ridiculous, by the way.


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: koods]
    #19292829 - 12/18/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Was I suppose to lol?  Cause I did...


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: spiny]
    #19292855 - 12/18/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The danger of cats and bears in the continental United States is vastly overstated.  It's a classic example of the Availability Bias (see Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic, read the paragraph under the heading Media for an explanation that hits right at this topic).  Because its violent, scary, and gets a lot of media attention, people way over-estimate the chances of occurrence.

I grew up in the mountains and have spent more than my fair share of time in the outdoors backpacking, hiking, hunting, and skiing.  After 30 years, I FINALLY saw my first mountain lion, and it happened to be walking through my backyard, of all places. 

Yes, it does happen.  There was an instance of a woman being killed by a cat a number of years ago in Newport Beach, of all places.  Changing your running route though?  I wouldn't bother.  The only large predator I honestly consider a credible threat are grizzly bears (i.e. NOT black bears) but they basically don't range in the lower 48 with the exception of small parts of Wyoming and Montana, I believe, and even then our judgements of grizzly bear risk are subject to availability bias, just like everything else.

The idea of walking with a gun in Idaho because of cat and bear risk is patently ridiculous, by the way.




We had a black bear walk though our backyard a few years ago, and I'm about 10 miles from downtown Washington, DC.


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Re: panthers/cougars/mountain lions [Re: mantirot]
    #19293293 - 12/18/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I live in the mountains and we get coyotes/lynx/mountain lions up here, I've seen them in person they won't attack you unless you're an idiot.



Take Bear mace on your runs, youll be fine.


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