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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: Asante]
    #19292171 - 12/18/13 07:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I hope when he hand delivers it , its to the home of some rich ass head of a black based crime syndicate . At which point they would rape and murder zimmerman .


Hand Deliver Why ?? ? lol


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: HeroMike] * 2
    #19292183 - 12/18/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why would you wish rape and murder on someone?  That's unshroomy as fuck, bro.


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: Asante]
    #19292277 - 12/18/13 08:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Lieutenant set the troll power to maximum..

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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: HeroMike]
    #19292300 - 12/18/13 08:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

. . . :peace:


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: vinsue]
    #19292370 - 12/18/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I hope those bids are all fake and he is being trolled because, I mean, that's way too much money to pay for that. Plus there's a news article saying he copied that pic off the internet.


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: HeroMike]
    #19292372 - 12/18/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I hope when he hand delivers it , its to the home of some rich ass head of a black based crime syndicate . At which point they would rape and murder zimmerman .


Hand Deliver Why ?? ? lol




You are wishing for a black man to rape Zimmerman, sounds like you have been watching Pulp Fiction, that was one fucked up scene.


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #19292762 - 12/18/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Plus there's a news article saying he copied that pic off the internet.





Lawl. Watch them sue him for the proceeds of the sale.


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: psi]
    #19292794 - 12/18/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

sue for a picture in the public domain?


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19292806 - 12/18/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What makes you think it's in the public domain?


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: psi]
    #19292847 - 12/18/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

oh, i thought all shutter stock images were free, anyways, i looked up the image, it seems to be free vector art


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19292887 - 12/18/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In any case, he's not selling the picture.  He's selling a painting.  I don't see how they could sue for shit.


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19292973 - 12/18/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I wonder what the hell the high bidder on this is thinking. Do they just have tons of money to throw around on ridiculous shit or are they actually expecting it to sell for more at some point? Eventually people are going to forget about this story I would think.




The bidders are probably rich Republican bigots with too much money and time on their hands. They probably see it as a way to support racism





wow... did you honestly just go there?




I totally did and I suspect that I'm so close to the truth that I'm almost willing to bet on it.


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: Enlil]
    #19293045 - 12/18/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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In any case, he's not selling the picture.  He's selling a painting.  I don't see how they could sue for shit.




Can you elaborate on that a little more? Does that apply to just paintings, or any image that draws on a copyrighted image and changes it enough?


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: psi]
    #19293065 - 12/18/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

He didn't likely draw on the picture.  I suspect he projected the picture onto the canvas and used it as a guide.

Even so, it's not a direct copy of the picture.  The colors are different, and there is text added.  It's derivative, sure...but I doubt any court would find it to be a copyright infringement.


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: psi]
    #19293069 - 12/18/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

She's obviously not a lawyer of copyright law.


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: psi]
    #19293252 - 12/18/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Can you elaborate on that a little more? Does that apply to just paintings, or any image that draws on a copyrighted image and changes it enough?



Doesn't matter. Cambells soup is copywrited out the wazoo but if you paint a can of it it'll be worth big dough. lol And its not as though you can even copyright anything like a general idea of an American flag waving in the wind. Lots of flags look similar in a breeze.


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #19293284 - 12/18/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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We've all got a little hitler in us:smoker:



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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: Enlil]
    #19293771 - 12/18/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree that a lot of what people have said in this thread is unshroomy.
It's shroomy to forgive another, though, even if you are certain they are a murderer. 




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He didn't likely draw on the picture.  I suspect he projected the picture onto the canvas and used it as a guide.

Even so, it's not a direct copy of the picture.  The colors are different, and there is text added.  It's derivative, sure...but I doubt any court would find it to be a copyright infringement.





To be certain if Zimmerman's painting counts as copyright infringement requires using the Four Factor Fair Use test.

Factor 1: What is the character of the use?

- Non-profit (fair use)
- Educational (fair use)
- Personal (fair use)

- Criticism (middle ground between fair use and infridgement)
- Commentary (middle ground between fair use and infridgement)
- News reporting (middle ground between fair use and infridgement)
- Parody (middle ground between fair use and infridgement)
- Otherwise "transformative" use. (middle ground between fair use and infridgement)

- Commercial. (infridgement)



Factor 2: What is the nature of the work to be used?

- Fact (fair use)
- Published (fair use)

- A mixture of fact and imaginative (middle ground between fair use and infridgement)

- Imaginative (infridgement)
- Unpublished (infridgement)



Factor 3: How much of the work will you use?

- Small amount (fair use)

- More than a small amount (infrigement)



Factor 4: If this kind of use were widespread, what effect would it have on the market for the original or for permissions?

- After evaluation of the first three factors, the proposed use is tipping towards fair use. (fair use)

- Original is out of print or otherwise unavailable. (middle ground between fair use and infridgement)
- No ready market for permission. (middle ground between fair use and infridgement)
- Copyright owner is unidentifiable. (middle ground between fair use and infridgement)

- Competes with (takes away sales from) the original. (infridgement)
- Avoids payment for permission (royalties) in an established permissions market. (infridgement)


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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #19293925 - 12/18/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't like George Zimmerman




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Re: George Zimmerman sells painting on ebay, currently at $100,000 [Re: Everlong]
    #19294938 - 12/18/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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