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need help heating my tank
    #19292970 - 12/18/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hello all. First time post here. I've been lurking for a few weeks as I wait for my supplies to arrive.

Here is my setup. 20gal aquarium. Dimensions: 30" long X 12" wide X 12"high

I have a Honeywell cool mist ultrasonic on a timer pumping humidity into the tank with tubing. I drilled 6 3/8" holes in the side for FAE and it's flowing nicely.I built a drip shield to keep the condensation from pooling up on my BRF cakes. I now have all the supplies and I am ready to inoculate, however I am having issues getting my temps to ~80F. I bought a reptile heat mat but it only raises my temp from 71 to 73. Putting the tank above a fridge or in furnace room is out of the question.

I read about the heat bomb but that won't work for me. I tried a ceramic heat emitter but it gets too hot around the unit and it will dry out the cakes. I'd like to mention I have a thermosat rigged up so when I reach optimal temps, it will cut power to my heat source.

I am considering configuring a space heater to the thermostat and making the closet it is in 80F. Will this still use tons of power even if it's on a thermostat?

Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated and I will add any other info about my setup if requested. Thank you.


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: jbeeebz]
    #19292997 - 12/18/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

First of all, welcome to the Shroomery!
There is a plethra of info here, all you gotta do is read.

Second, I suggest something on these lines.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324

Build a SGFC and get rid of the aquarium.  GL

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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: kratom_redmomd]
    #19293102 - 12/18/13 12:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nice I've been looking for a link to the of tek thanks.a lot of info there. I have been reading a lot however and some people do have success using aquariums as long as they have fresh air exchange, which mine definately does. I think I am going to run a space heater on a thermostat, I'd just like to see if anyone has some other ideas on how to keep my heat up. Maybe throw a dimmer on the ceramic emitter to make it less hot? Thanks for the fast response!


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: jbeeebz]
    #19293146 - 12/18/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, you can run a space heater to heat the room.
You don't want to heat only the fruiting chamber (FC)/tank.
It may dry out the air faster, and you will have to adjust your misting/fanning schedule.
Just remember, if you are comfortable, your mushies are comfortable.

Evil's TEK worked for me!  Now I have a PC and I am trying to move up to grains soon.


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: kratom_redmomd]
    #19293356 - 12/18/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You'll probably have trouble getting enough FAE with just 6 3/8" holes.

1/4" holes every 2"s in a grid pattern. Probably difficult drilling through an aquarium, but you'd be better off to add a lot more small holes:mushroom2:


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: vikingsc]
    #19293405 - 12/18/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How do you know if your terrarium has enough FAE?  You can get sterilites at walmart, for under 8 bucks, money well spent.  The holes in a SGFC are designed to help with FAE, the equation isn't meant to be fucked with.

also, heating the terrarium itself will only give you headaches.  Try to heat a space where the terrarium might be.  80 is redline, you don't want to go any higher than that or you will send an invite to all contams in the neighborhood.  You can successfully colonize and fruit under 80.  I did mine in 22 celcius max, which is 72....and mine did fine.  A little slower than most that i've read, but only by a day or so, so it was no big deal.

The best thing about a SGFC is that you don't need any extra kit, just the perlite. Also, your humidity, FAE, and evap are taken care of with routine mist and fan.  It's the easier route imo.
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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: 1down5up]
    #19293455 - 12/18/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the info. I was only judging my fae off of the fact that I can see the fog pouring out when it's running but I can't be sure it is enough. I will most likely need more holes. I have plenty of diamond hole saws so it's not a problem to make more. My room is constantly 71-74 degrees so I might just leave it alone. So the difference in fruiting times in only a few days when the temp is not 80? If that's the case, I have no problem waiting a little longer. Thanks everyone


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: jbeeebz]
    #19293481 - 12/18/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I would say the only problem you might have, is FAE with that terrarium.  Others have used them though, and had success, so i'm not trying to dissuade from using it, there are just easier options, that are very affordable.

If you can get all the holes drilled, and get the perlite in there, you'll have a great start on it.


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: jbeeebz]
    #19293483 - 12/18/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

jbeeebz said:
Hello all. First time post here. I've been lurking for a few weeks as I wait for my supplies to arrive.

Here is my setup. 20gal aquarium. Dimensions: 30" long X 12" wide X 12"high

I have a Honeywell cool mist ultrasonic on a timer pumping humidity into the tank with tubing. I drilled 6 3/8" holes in the side for FAE and it's flowing nicely.I built a drip shield to keep the condensation from pooling up on my BRF cakes. I now have all the supplies and I am ready to inoculate, however I am having issues getting my temps to ~80F. I bought a reptile heat mat but it only raises my temp from 71 to 73. Putting the tank above a fridge or in furnace room is out of the question.

I read about the heat bomb but that won't work for me. I tried a ceramic heat emitter but it gets too hot around the unit and it will dry out the cakes. I'd like to mention I have a thermosat rigged up so when I reach optimal temps, it will cut power to my heat source.

I am considering configuring a space heater to the thermostat and making the closet it is in 80F. Will this still use tons of power even if it's on a thermostat?

Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated and I will add any other info about my setup if requested. Thank you.




I would just keep your room temp at 70-75 as the cakes in the aquarium generate heat themselves, also use Perlite for humidity it works wonders cheap. When I open my fruiting chambers I'll notice there its at-least 5-10 degrees warmer inside. Keep it simple and just keep your room temp around 70~75 Degrees with a few inches of perlite for humidity. I keep my thermostat at 67 degrees as body heat etc will raise my FC rooms temp, hope this helps.


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: 1down5up]
    #19293535 - 12/18/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry I'm a huge newbie and I need to clear this up. I need perlite for my setup? I already have a ton of humidity coming from my humidifier. I have the wire mesh elevated off the bottom 3/4 inch. I wasn't aware I needed more substrate? I thought that was for a fanning/misting setup?


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: jbeeebz]
    #19293580 - 12/18/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Perlite is not a sub, it helps retain moisture, and helps with FAE.  Just keep reading before you start man...nothing worse than starting, and scrambling for answers...fucking up a grow, and getting discouraged.  Do some more reading before you start, you'll be golden.

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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: 1down5up]
    #19293601 - 12/18/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I'll read up a lot more. Thanks for the help


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: jbeeebz]
    #19293646 - 12/18/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cubes are hard to fuck up, throw em in a big plastic container with somme perlite and mist + fan 4x a day. Simple


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19294237 - 12/18/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

With your setup, you don't necessarily need perlite. It would've been cheaper and easier than the cool mist. But the cool mist should easily take care of your humidity. A sterlite container would've been easier, but a bunch more small holes in that terrarium and it should work fine. :mushroom2:


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: vikingsc]
    #19294324 - 12/18/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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With your setup, you don't necessarily need perlite. It would've been cheaper and easier than the cool mist. But the cool mist should easily take care of your humidity. A sterlite container would've been easier, but a bunch more small holes in that terrarium and it should work fine. :mushroom2:



Bro forget the cool mist and babbage, take a steilite container make holes add perlite , mist + fan as directed wam done finto fuggetbouit and do u see any holes in my set up nah so to each there own and all that


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19294342 - 12/18/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In the future for sure. That's definitely the way to go. A million times easier and less hassle. Just saying he can salvage what he has rather than start from scratch. :mushroom2:


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: vikingsc]
    #19294360 - 12/18/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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In the future for sure. That's definitely the way to go. A million times easier and less hassle. Just saying he can salvage what he has rather than start from scratch. :mushroom2:


Most definitely, sorry I'm tripping face


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: jbeeebz]
    #19294365 - 12/18/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks for the info. I was only judging my fae off of the fact that I can see the fog pouring out when it's running but I can't be sure it is enough. I will most likely need more holes. I have plenty of diamond hole saws so it's not a problem to make more. My room is constantly 71-74 degrees so I might just leave it alone. So the difference in fruiting times in only a few days when the temp is not 80? If that's the case, I have no problem waiting a little longer. Thanks everyone




Run a space heater in the room if you want to keep it at 75F.

You never want fog exiting or entering your terrarium.  You'll soon learn that if the substrate isn't evaporating moisture, it won't pin.  This is why we mist; you let the substrate evaporate and dry out a bit, and then you mist to bring it back up.  Steady state moisture content, especially if too wet will lead to poor or no results.
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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19294377 - 12/18/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

RR to the rescue thanks


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Re: need help heating my tank [Re: Doc Seta]
    #19294594 - 12/18/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree I made too much work for myself. I liked the idea of a nice glass tank. I have nothing but time to work on this and I always do things to the extreme and make extra work for myself I'll admit lol.

Just read through the pf tek and learned a ton. I should be okay for now. Thanks to everyone for your advice!


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