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Offlinegreenspectral
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Re: why did society invest in YOU? [Re: NWlight]
    #19292773 - 12/18/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i can tell you what society didn't do-

ever teach me how to live off the land to provide for my own biological sustenance.



yeah, it never did that..


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Invisiblebadchad
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Re: why did society invest in YOU? [Re: greenspectral]
    #19292796 - 12/18/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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greenspectral said:


yeah, it never did that..




Should society teach you that?  How does that help the rest of us?

And that's kind of the point:  Society works best when its members contribute and increase the well-being for all of its members.  If you aren't contributing, then you're part of the problem.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: why did society invest in YOU? [Re: NWlight]
    #19292797 - 12/18/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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NWlight said:
what the fuck did you ever do for anyone else? why should the world have kept YOU alive to this moment?




They need me to work to pay social security.  Its a ponzi "setup" so they need more workers than retires to keep it going.


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Re: why did society invest in YOU? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19292812 - 12/18/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't say people on welfare are thieves. One could argue that by simply existing and needing foodstamps they provide a benefit. For example, if all of those folks up and vanished, so would a large portion of wal-mart's profits... I understand that that's a stretch of the imagination, but it does demonstrate how everything is connected.

And by the way, yes, if you ever went to school, drove on a road, or purchased something with legal tender, society has invested in something to make your life better- in you.


Annnny way. I take in my neighbors garbage cans every now and then, helped my other neighbor move a couch not long ago. It's the little stuff.


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Re: why did society invest in YOU? [Re: Lynnch]
    #19292893 - 12/18/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:raisemyglass:

My statements do apply to some people.


Edited by Into The Woods (12/18/13 08:13 PM)


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Offlinegreenspectral
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Re: why did society invest in YOU? [Re: badchad]
    #19292919 - 12/18/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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badchad said:
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greenspectral said:


yeah, it never did that..




Should society teach you that?




:facepalm: ...wow.

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badchad said:
How does that help the rest of us?





I'm not here to help society. I live for myself within the whole of the Law.

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badchad said:
And that's kind of the point:  Society works best when its members contribute and increase the well-being for all of its members.  If you aren't contributing, then you're part of the problem.




working at Mcdonalds is going to increase the well being of all society's members?

(btw i don't work at Mcdonalds, that's just an example to highlight the fallacy in your thinking.)


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Invisiblebadchad
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Re: why did society invest in YOU? [Re: greenspectral]
    #19292984 - 12/18/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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greenspectral said:
I'm not here to help society. I live for myself within the whole of the Law.





That's fine.  Some of us enjoy the clean drinking water, sanitation, electricity, and the rest of the comforts society provides.  I'm not one to tell you that you have to participate.  You should probably get rid of the computer society helped you obtain, and stop posting using the electricity it helps provide.

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greenspectral said:
working at Mcdonalds is going to increase the well being of all society's members?

(btw i don't work at Mcdonalds, that's just an example to highlight the fallacy in your thinking.)




Working at McDonald's provides people employment, which (at minimum) increases the tax base and helps them not be leeches on the system. 

As a whole, McDonald's provides an incredible economic stimulus to society, as well as other things like the Ronald McDonald house etc.  So yes, I'd say McDonald's helps.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: why did society invest in YOU? [Re: greenspectral]
    #19292990 - 12/18/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I fed the homeless once for probation.:shrug:
Like literally diced up some veggies, mixed up some batter and hand served plates to all kinds of homeless people, it was actually a really cool experience.
There were families with kids and shit lined up, it was nuts.

My line of work has been customer service and sales, and i've had people call in who honestly just needed someone to talk to. I've had some serious therapy session type of calls before.

Yesterday i gave 5 dollars to one of those feed the children things. At first i told the dude i didnt have change just bills then thought, fuck it why not.
I was gonna buy more weed with that money too, but just smoked what i had.

If a stranger needs immediate help i'll lend a hand, i hate when people just walk away from situations where someone's in need.


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Offlinegreenspectral
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Re: why did society invest in YOU? [Re: badchad]
    #19293025 - 12/18/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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badchad said:
That's fine.  Some of us enjoy the clean drinking water, sanitation, electricity, and the rest of the comforts society provides.  I'm not one to tell you that you have to participate.  You should probably get rid of the computer society helped you obtain, and stop posting using the electricity it helps provide.





clean drinking water is the only necessity in that paragraph and that used to be easy to come by until corporate-government conglomerates decided to start privatizing it. they seek to control it because their industrial era machinations threaten to pollute the globe irreversibly.

this computer and electricity happens to be a tool in this reality that can be utilized, doesn't mean i need it or even would be sad if it went away.


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Re: why did society invest in YOU? [Re: thoughts]
    #19293051 - 12/18/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I paid taxes ONCE...and I occasionally buy stuff. I don't really like modern society. It's too much like a long white sterile hallway for my taste. Modern society tried to help me, I rejected it. Now it burdens me and I'm a burden to it. I could have done good in school and applied myself, maybe got a scholarship but at that age, who gave a fuck? Now I wish I could go to college but I can't be taught, I don't believe much of what I'm told. Modern society is unbalanced and once you lose your footing, it's hard to get up. The lack of opportunities is slowly getting slimmer as well.


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Re: why did society invest in YOU? [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19293071 - 12/18/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

One of the few baristas at an independent coffee house downtown... I give people their coffee and lace that shit with whatever I'm thinking everyone should be feeling that day.


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