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Into The Woods
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: Into The Woods]
#19292859 - 12/18/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Buddy. Man. Pal. No gay affiliation.
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Into The Woods
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: Into The Woods]
#19292867 - 12/18/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not that I have anything against it
I'm gonna pass the fuck out before I stop posting willingly
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st1llnox
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: Into The Woods]
#19292868 - 12/18/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm doing a shot at this pub in your honor woods!
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Into The Woods
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#19292877 - 12/18/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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st1llnox
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: Into The Woods]
#19292879 - 12/18/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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-------------------- Back, bitches. st1lln0x: so i'm on weed, temazepam, adderall, dexedrine, dxm, dph, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, tryptophan, GABA, and kratom Cavemen_savemen: st1lln0x, do you feel like a robot yet? st1lln0x: I feel like a fucking Gundam Click to friend me on Steam for Counter-Strike
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Acaterpillar
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#19292995 - 12/18/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If that charter is using other substances regularly besides peyote, I would proceed with caution.
That's the last advice I'll offer in this thread.
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TheGreenArrow
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: Acaterpillar]
#19293272 - 12/18/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've heard stories from a girl who partakes in the peyote rituals with her family. She says her grandmother believes that marijuana is evil and peyote is god given. Is this a common outlook for Native American Church goers?
-------------------- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein Saint RedBow of the Shroomey Loomey-Patron Saint of Sandbaggin Sumbitchs
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Acaterpillar
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: TheGreenArrow]
#19322704 - 12/24/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm actually headed to an NAC ceremony for Christmas right now. Happy holidays everyone.
-------------------- Aaa...E I O Uuu...A E I O Uuu..A E I O uh Uuu.. *Cough* *Cough* Ooo...U E I O Aaa...U E I Aaa..A E I O Uuuuu... At first sight, The Perfection of Wisdom is bewildering, full of paradox and apparent irrationality.
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st1llnox
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: Acaterpillar]
#19323083 - 12/24/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh cool! Which kind of ceremony?
Have fun and happy holidays; I appreciate your contributions you've made to this thread!
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Acaterpillar
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#19325941 - 12/25/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why are you imitating Ballerium's signature and avatar? It's really confusing. 
It was a crossfire circle. Very cool way to spend Christmas.
I hope the Church you're in contact with can open you to yourself in the same way this Church has for me.
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: Acaterpillar]
#19325969 - 12/25/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's so awesome--was peyote involved?
I hope this can get the callouses off my personality lol
And it's a long story lol
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Acaterpillar
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#19326035 - 12/25/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Only you can remove those callouses, but the medicine can certainly make you aware of the callous, and the pain and suffering it brings you.
And yes, medicine was involved. It's hard to pull real understanding from letters and words, but I'm concerned that your intentions for seeking out the Church aren't the best.
You shouldn't be so concerned with the Peyote, but rather more concerned with the way in which it works as a medicine. The are other medicines you can pull equal meaning from; and for some people alternative medicines could even be more powerful. Though Peyote is considered the grandfather medicine.
But if an NAC member is telling you about a ceremony he sat in, don't ask: "WAS PEYOTE INVOLVED?!?!"
You'll only make your ignorance of the culture painfully obvious.
-------------------- Aaa...E I O Uuu...A E I O Uuu..A E I O uh Uuu.. *Cough* *Cough* Ooo...U E I O Aaa...U E I Aaa..A E I O Uuuuu... At first sight, The Perfection of Wisdom is bewildering, full of paradox and apparent irrationality.
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: Acaterpillar]
#19326055 - 12/25/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I feel ya caterpillar. Honestly I'm not that worried about Peyote at this point although I feel it would/will benefit me. That's what got this on my radar originally but now that I've looked a lot more into it, what's making me gravitate toward it is their openness to varying views within members and their communal tendencies (FYI, you don't have to join to do their Peyote ceremonies if that clears up a little on my intentions here; TBH I think the sweat lodge is more what I need in the immediate future based on the site saying it's especially to help relations with biological parents, although how that's supposed to help I'm currently unclear on).
Honestly if you're gonna be worried about something in relation to Peyote, be worried that I'm hoping it will fix everything (I fear that I am still holding onto this notion and that I'll end up disappointed or, worse yet, feeling even worse off if the mother of all medicine can't help me). I'm going to be learning a LOT more about this stuff and how it works before I partake because I recognize this, for sure.
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Acaterpillar
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#19326082 - 12/25/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just feel great compassion towards the church and I don't want to be responsible for sending anyone their way because they want to get high on a drug. I have yet to sit in a sweat lodge, but I seriously look forward to it when I get the chance.
It's incredibly intense, so be prepared.
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Acaterpillar]
#19326091 - 12/25/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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People should be allowed to ingest whatever they want, though if they start eating peopøe they should also expect people getting angry...
spiritual use of psycadellica? Great.
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st1llnox
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Icyus]
#19326098 - 12/25/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's not why I want in, but I respect that and I'm shielding them from some of my friends for this very reason.
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George W. Bush
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Icyus]
#19326108 - 12/25/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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OP is clearly am just wants to use his demonic drugs.
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Acaterpillar
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: George W. Bush]
#19326118 - 12/25/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
George W. Bush said: OP is clearly am just wants to use his demonic drugs.
You sir are not invited.
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Acaterpillar]
#19326133 - 12/25/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have utmost respect for the rockin' body our lord and savior Jesus Christ (happy birthday!) gave me and I am not gonna go get addicted to cactuses with a bunch of illegal immigrant's.
If they wanna go back where they came from, the Indians can smoke all the pay-ote and crack meth they want. Hell, the one's that stayed in India are all addicted to cigarettes now, but those don't cause cancer like pay-ote.
I will pray for you and OP that you break this unholy fetters your stuck in and can find hope in Jesus.
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: George W. Bush]
#19326147 - 12/25/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
George W. Bush said: I have utmost respect for the rockin' body our lord and savior Jesus Christ (happy birthday!) gave me and I am not gonna go get addicted to cactuses with a bunch of illegal immigrant's.
If they wanna go back where they came from, the Indians can smoke all the pay-ote and crack meth they want. Hell, the one's that stayed in India are all addicted to cigarettes now, but those don't cause cancer like pay-ote.
I will pray for you and OP that you break this unholy fetters your stuck in and can find hope in Jesus.

That was the most entertaining thing I've read all day. Thank you for the laugh.
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