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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Patlal]
#19284451 - 12/16/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks again, Woods! Maybe an arbitrarily-large dose of mescaline is just what the doctor (should have) ordered  I bet, plek, although Ayahuasca's gotta be pretty fucking intense too.
Patlal, it's more philosophical/"zen"-brand spiritual than religious per se, although there definitely is that side to it.
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: st1llnox]
#19284569 - 12/16/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just had a talk with my parents and my mom has now tried convincing me that this is probably a cult and that I will end up in slave labor Do any of you see or know of any red flags regarding the NAC and potential cult status? If I were to follow my heart on this one I'd proceed without even worrying about this but eh.
I told my parents they could meet them if they drove me down but they don't want to. Naturally, Craigslist ride share is a safe alternative to get to what they fear is a cult lol, but nor should I feel that they somehow owe me a ride to middle of nowhere, MO.
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: st1llnox]
#19284667 - 12/16/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gotta make your own decisions.
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: nicechrisman]
#19284737 - 12/16/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're right. I made it clear I'm doing this and that their help would be nice though will not determine if I through with this. They almost looked victimized at this though, but I'm sure they'll be glad for any positive changes they see.
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: st1llnox]
#19284746 - 12/16/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cult doesn't even come up in autocomplete on google regarding them and the only NAC cult I can find is the New Apostolic Church. Spirit quest is go!
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: st1llnox]
#19285381 - 12/16/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Native American churches rituals have been going on for a long time, they are a group that just happens to worship psychedelic cacti and occasionally fungi. They are not really the convert type usually they wont even allow foreigners to go through the ritual
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Patlal]
#19285974 - 12/16/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: IMO, OP needs religion just as much as he needs heroin...
lol if he goes through with this, he will probably act like The Mushroom Jesus (aka Bill O'Reilly) when he was shooting up DMT
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Everlong]
#19286071 - 12/16/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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TMJ changed his name eh... now I see 
IIRC, it seemed like Scooby Snax brand spice was the issue if you're talking Shroomery chat circa winter 2011-2012. K2 is far from a spiritual sacrament lol.
I just need to figure out how to get to the town now... I shall find a way though
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: st1llnox]
#19286091 - 12/16/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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st1llnox said: TMJ changed his name eh... now I see 
IIRC, it seemed like Scooby Snax brand spice was the issue if you're talking Shroomery chat circa winter 2011-2012. K2 is far from a spiritual sacrament lol.
I just need to figure out how to get to the town now... I shall find a way though 
I have a bad feeling about you mixing psychedelics with religion, is all.
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Everlong]
#19286101 - 12/16/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ah... I'm more philosophical than religious just FYI, and the spirituality aspect is much more zen than Christian or whatever but who knows. I'll see where this goes and where this takes me
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Everlong]
#19291920 - 12/18/13 05:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Everlong said:
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Patlal said: IMO, OP needs religion just as much as he needs heroin...
lol if he goes through with this, he will probably act like The Mushroom Jesus (aka Bill O'Reilly) when he was shooting up DMT
Why would you think that? One Peyote ritual is a lot safer then shooting up 4-aco-Dmt and dmt extremely frequently. I remember that phase of his when I was Seriously_Spaced, I dropped off the map for a bit and I didn't know he was Bill O' Reilly that's cool, I was wondering where MushroomJesus was.
Also I would like to point out you can go through the ceremony and still hold the values and beliefs you had before. There is no sound reasoning to think otherwise.
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#19292323 - 12/18/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Seriously_trippin said:
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Everlong said:
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Patlal said: IMO, OP needs religion just as much as he needs heroin...
lol if he goes through with this, he will probably act like The Mushroom Jesus (aka Bill O'Reilly) when he was shooting up DMT
Why would you think that? One Peyote ritual is a lot safer then shooting up 4-aco-Dmt and dmt extremely frequently. I remember that phase of his when I was Seriously_Spaced, I dropped off the map for a bit and I didn't know he was Bill O' Reilly that's cool, I was wondering where MushroomJesus was.
Also I would like to point out you can go through the ceremony and still hold the values and beliefs you had before. There is no sound reasoning to think otherwise.
I think that because based off what I've read from OP, he seems to jump off into the deep end when introduced to something.
He seems like the perfect personality who would take psychedelics in a religious setting, and then preach about his "experience with god" and all that jazz.
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Everlong]
#19292658 - 12/18/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cut him some fucking slack, enthusiasm and charisma is a far cry from utter retardation.
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Into The Woods]
#19292666 - 12/18/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Into The Woods said: Cut him some fucking slack, enthusiasm and charisma is a far cry from utter retardation.
You must not read some of his threads, he seems to jump the shark on everything.
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Re: Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State [Re: Everlong]
#19292705 - 12/18/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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He might be a little over the top sometimes but that doesn't mean anything.
He's a smart guy and he knows how to take something seriously.
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#19292746 - 12/18/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like how the tone of the thread changed from a disrespectful:
Native American Church -- Peyote-Dosing Shaman Stoners In My State
to a more respectful:
Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!!
The moment you get an invite.
WE SEE YOU DO THESE THINGS AND DON'T LET YOU GET AWAY WITH IT
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: Asante]
#19292823 - 12/18/13 11:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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A lot of people jumping to some conclusions in here.
W_S, the original title wasn't meant disrespectfully at all; I phrased it that way as I thought those qualities were striking.
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: st1llnox]
#19292841 - 12/18/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey st1ll
I'm drunk and I'm about to go to bed but I want you to know that I didn't jump to conclusions and that they were both in your favour
And I meant every damn word 
So drunk
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: Into The Woods]
#19292850 - 12/18/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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And honour
Friendship
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Re: Native American Church -- UPDATED: I'm invited to go visit them to get things figured out!!! [Re: Into The Woods]
#19292856 - 12/18/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love you, I do
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