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OfflineGedaliah
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When a mean spirit trips?
    #19290936 - 12/17/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hello everyone, I am posting tonight because I have a curious question.
I have had hellish trips and angelic trips in my past experience within the reference point of this lifetime. My current quest is to live in the moment in all instances under the awesome realization of the fact this exist. Anyway. I am acquainted with the person, let's call her A. A is only experienced with hydros and weed. She wants to trip with me. A couple things about her...she is a rich girl who never had to do shit in her life, she is ignorant to existence and sort of an asshole, she has a way with words that creates unpleasant visuals for me...she spews second hand philosophy and tries to flaunt it like a pair of tits. It's just an addition to her mask. I see right through this but she seems to have placed herself upon a high horse. Now to the question....should I trip with her and risk her being horrified by the creations of her mind. Or should I tell her to forget it. There is a possibility she will wake up but when that opportunity arises she will probably decline. I am asking you guys cuz you probably dealt with a similar situation but hey idk
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Re: When a mean spirit trips? [Re: Gedaliah]
    #19291311 - 12/18/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If she's over 18 and is a consenting adult then I say inform her of all the risks and potential benefits.

Then let her make the choice.  May do her a world of good, may send her on a one-way trip to psychosis and schizophrenia-ville.  You're a big boy now.  Be an adult and make the right decision.


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Re: When a mean spirit trips? [Re: Gedaliah]
    #19291506 - 12/18/13 01:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Personally, if it was me, not a fuckin' chance.  I'm not going to trip with someone who I perceive to be an asshole on some fantasy notion that they might 'wake up' and become a more honest, sincere person that I'd magically start enjoying.  Ain't gonna happen.  At this point in my life, I'd likely tell her to fuck off all together.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: When a mean spirit trips? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19292309 - 12/18/13 08:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If she understands the risks I personally would go for it. But I would make sure I only took a very low dose so if her trip did go south I would still be able to handle myself easily.  It might make no difference to her whatsoever but there is a good chance she might be able to see through some of her behaviour. 

We are all ultimately the product of our environment.  The way this girl is is not really her fault. It's just how she has been brought up, what she has been exposed to. Psychedelics offer people an ability to change their programming, so if you are feeling selfless, I say do it, but go easy with the dose!


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The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death.
Tomorrow, when resurrection comes,
The heart that is not in love will fail the test.

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The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny.
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Re: When a mean spirit trips? [Re: Gedaliah]
    #19292429 - 12/18/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Gedaliah said:
Now to the question....should I trip with her and risk her being horrified by the creations of her mind.



You're wise to be thinking about that.

I once tripped with a casual friend who I didn't really know well, but who seemed nice enough and was in possession of some very high quality stuff.  So I figured, "What could go wrong?"

It was a total nightmare.

I went into blissful cosmic consciousness mode, and he went into fetal "mommy, where are you" mode.  Plus, there was a lot of dark, dark stuff buried in his subconscious, which I became hyper-sensitive to because all my receiving portals were wide open.

Bottom line:  Don't take the really heavy stuff with someone you don't know well.

It can turn out to be a really unpleasant experience.


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Re: When a mean spirit trips? [Re: PocketLady]
    #19292549 - 12/18/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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PocketLady said:
If she understands the risks I personally would go for it. But I would make sure I only took a very low dose so if her trip did go south I would still be able to handle myself easily.  It might make no difference to her whatsoever but there is a good chance she might be able to see through some of her behaviour. 

We are all ultimately the product of our environment.  The way this girl is is not really her fault. It's just how she has been brought up, what she has been exposed to. Psychedelics offer people an ability to change their programming, so if you are feeling selfless, I say do it, but go easy with the dose!





Nice post and true imo. :thumbup:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: When a mean spirit trips? [Re: Gedaliah]
    #19292592 - 12/18/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you go through with it, best of luck... I'd be interested in a follow up report.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: When a mean spirit trips? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19293490 - 12/18/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've decided I'm not going to trip with her, she isn't 18 and I will not put myself in a position to be held responsible for a possible negative outcome, if this desire within her is true, to experience "IT" then surely she will find a way. But as for me, I won't have any part in her experience. Maybe when she learns her Abc's and 1 2 3's I will reconsider. But as of now, thanks for your advice. That insight about the environment shaping us is something I needed to be reminded of. ☺️peace


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