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Substrate Tea
    #1929230 - 09/18/03 03:54 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Has anyone ever made this before and know how much water i should use for a quart jar and what kind of doses that would be. The substrate is unused.

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Re: Substrate Tea [Re: Bandit]
    #1929707 - 09/18/03 06:07 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

If you're going to try to trip off of colonized substrate, I suggest you use Psilocybe azurescens. The mycelium is a little more potent, and the trip seems to be much better.

A quart jar of cubensis substrate should be about 3 doses. A quart of azurescens is closer to 4.


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Re: Substrate Tea [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1929894 - 09/18/03 07:03 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Granted, I would go with baby hitler's advice before some mysterious stranger like myself.

My personal experience with cubensis substratium tea wasnt worth while. Given what I had to drink to the amount of psilocybin I recieved.

You can do it....I wouldnt again. Cyanescens and Azur substrate would be Ideal.

I dont do drugs, I just smoke chronic.

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Re: Substrate Tea [Re: Eloc_666]
    #1930278 - 09/18/03 09:22 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

from the old PF site.....

PF TEK SHROOM EXTRACTION - update - December 28 2002
This technique describes how to extract psilocybin from magic mushrooms with pure 190 proof ethyl alcohol and make a magic mushroom liqueur of concentrated psilocybin to effect a powerful psychedelic dose as potent as desired. The entire process involves only the shrooms and alcohol. The alcohol is untainted with chemicals and poisons because it can be easily acquired from a liquor store (United States) either over the counter (in some states) or with a special permit (most states - see end of article section - "procuring 190 proof ethyl alcohol from a liquor store").

1. Acquire quality psilocybe cubensis shrooms (harvested before or just as the veils open and cool dried with desiccant). The more shrooms used in the beginning, the more potent the concentration can be when finished. Use at least several grams of dried shroom material to make the process worthwhile and effective. The shrooms need to be thoroughly dry (rock hard) to allow pulverization. To pulverize the shrooms, put them into a small strong zip lock plastic bag (freezer bag), cover the bag with a magazine (for protection of the bag) and pound it with the rubber heel of a large shoe. Or, powder them in a small canister type coffee bean grinder.

In a heat resistant soaking vessel (pyrex glass), combine the shroom powder with several times its volume with 190 proof Everclear (ethanol). This is the "slurry". Place the soaking vessel in a pan of boiling water. Raising the soaking vessel off the bottom of the hot water pan is a good idea for preventing serious sticking of the good extracts. The slurry will start to boil. Turn the water boiling pan heat down and let the slurry sit for a few hours at a warm-hot temp. Alcohol boils at a lower temp than water. Watch the temperatures closely. Things can get totally out of hand and ruined very quickly without close attention paid.

While the slurry is still hot, filter it through filter paper. This is probably the most important part. A good filtration will be efficient and will keep most of the shroom material out, making for a clean extraction (clean of shrooms that is - but heavy on psilocybin). A small lab type vacuum pump powered bottle top filtering funnel with filter disk holder makes it all really easy and fast, with little waste. That is why this extraction idea is really only for the fanatics.

Collect and save the filtrate liquids. Heat the slurry (the mush in the filter paper) one or two more times with the 190 proof as before, filter, and accumulate the liquids of the extractions. The photos at the top are of extractions done twice.

Inexpensive dust-pollen masks make excellent filters for the slurry. These are available at hardware, drug and paint stores. They are usually white or tan colored, fit over the nose and mouth and are held on to the face by a rubber band attached to the filter. Fashion the filter over the mouth of a drinking glass. Squeeze the filter and slurry to extract the alcohol. There are many details to deal with, but doing it once reveals them all. Experience is the best teacher. Store the extracted alcohol in a fresh bottle.

Combine the alcohol extracts into a glass. Place a small electric fan (small desk clip on fans are perfect) near the glass and point the air flow directly down into the glass until the surface of the alcohol ripples. This will speed the evaporation and concentration. The process will take several hours. The more alcohol extract - the longer the evaporation time. As the alcohol evaporates and the level recedes down into the glass, wash the residue that adheres to the inside of the glass back into the solution. Any fumes that are generated will be harmless because the alcohol is a non poisonous drinkable spirit. Keep flames away from the solution - pure alcohol is very flammable.

One can also use heat to evaporate and concentrate the elixir. Use a double boiler type of set up to heat and evaporate off the alcohol to concentrate the elixir.

The concentrated shroom liqueur will have a pungent mushroomy aroma (like fungi perfume). Also, a white crystalline kind of precipitate will form in the alcohol elixir (see above photo). Store it in small screw cap bottles or vials in the freezer. Alcohol doesn't freeze solid and will remain liquid.

First, call a well stocked liquor store and ask if they have 190 proof ethyl alcohol. Full service liquor stores supply hospitals and laboratories with 190 - 200 proof ethyl alcohol.

If a permit is needed, call the state liquor board (usually in the State Capital) and ask for an application to get an ethyl alcohol permit. The fee is 5 or 10 dollars. On the application will be a question asking what the use of the alcohol will be. Write what they more or less want to hear. State that the use of the alcohol will be for "non-toxic surface sterilizing plus herb extraction - preservation - tincture - and perfume making" (or something to that effect). The poison warnings on the alcohol bottles and this idiotic red tape are just bureaucratic nonsense that results in the state making a big fat bundle off of the sale.

190 proof ethyl alcohol (GOLDEN GRAIN - EVERCLEAR ect)
Pyrex glass wide mouth slurry soaking vessel
funnel and filtering set up - or
dust-pollen masks
small desk fan
Here are some important guidlines for right now!
There is one thing about magic shrooms that is universal. Anyone that you know that has taken magic shrooms will tell you one thing, if asked, and that is that the shrooms were were hard on the stomach. They make most people sick, at the least, temporarily, and some get very sick. What makes for the sickness, is that these magic shrooms are not easy to digest. It is the stomachs reaction to difficult to digest food that is the sickness. So they goal would be to elliminate the stomach, or by pass it. These extraction teks can do that. By making the extract very potent and using good filtration technique, the product can be consumed by mouth so that the saliva and the mucous membranes in the mouth do most of the job. So when anything of the extract reached the stomach, it is basically digested leaving the stomach with nothing to do which results in no stomach upset - just the trip. This is the greatest idea in magic shroom history. To elliminate the ugly physical effects is a real godsend. It makes it all totally superb and beyond any known psychedelic in entheogenic quality and potency.
1. Use warm-hot temps when soaking the initial slurry (shroom-alki). Use the hot water bath idea from the Gottlieb tek below. Avoid hot bottomed slurry soak vessels. The good stuff can bake on and stick very easily.
2. A good filter is a must. Lab quality filter paper helps for a cleaner extract (less shroom stuff). The fanatic should get a little bottle top vacuum filtering funnel with a hand squeeze vacuum pump and fine slow flow filtering papers. (science supply - not cheap - but affordable for the fanatics - look for the 47 millimeter filter sized set ups - small but perfect for this).
3. When filtering the slurry, do it while it is hot.
4. The crystals when heated in the initial slurry are free base molecules. In the final liqueur on cool down, the free base molecules will coalesce and form crystals. It takes a day or two for the process to be complete. The smaller the final amount of liqueur, the easier it is for the molecules to meet each other and combine. When you get your final magic liqueur, the free base psilocybin will coaslesce and form whitish crystals. At first they might look like whitish glue, but they transform in solution to hard crystals.

5. The final elixir will have a layer of crystals on the bottom of the storage vessel. The freebase Psilocybin molecules come together fast in the cool alcohol. When it is time for dosage, reheat the crystal liqueur in its storage vessel in a pot of hot water. Boil the liqueur and stir and scrape deposits from the glass as the liqueur boils lightly. Alcohol boils at a lower temperature than water. Keep the storage vessel off the bottom of the boiling water pot. Direct heat is very bad for the elixir, making it stick. As the liqueur boils, the crystals will remelt with time. The large particles of the crystals can be crushed with a long needle probe to hurry up the process. When the crystals are gone, administer the magic liqueur while it is HOT. Using a syringe enables uniformity and accuracy of the doseages. The hot liqueur quickly becomes cloudy on slight cooling. So a hot temp of the liqueur with remelted crystals is important for accurate dosage administration. Or the crystals can be dried and used as they are!
6. Or, the crystalline extract can be completely dried by placing the elixir container in front of a small fan to get most of the liquid out. To complete the drying, desiccant is recommended. Place the small vessel of liquid extract into a larger jar with quality desiccant. It takes several days to complete drying, but the final crystalline substance is very dry, loose, and can be weighed and worked with very easily.
7. TEK personalization through experience is what happens to anyone trying this.

Getting crystals is really moot. I think the following scheme for dosing and storage is the only way to go. With this way, one doesn't have to deal with the problems of crystalization and other things related. Plus, the dry crystals would be much more prone to potency loss if left dry. If they are in an alcohol solution, that would be better for preservation.
As an example, one can start with 20 grams of dried shrooms. After the filtration of the hot slurry, the resultant liqueur should be put into an evaporation vessel and with a fan blowing air across the mouth of the vessel, the liqueur should be evaportated down to about 50 milliliters. Then, in a double boiler, heat the small amount of liqueur to put the crystals and extract back into a cloudy solution. Then while it is hot, dispense 10 cc of the liqueur into waiting small storage jars with watertight caps. Each small jar is allowed to cool, the cap is put on and the jar is placed into the freezer for storage. Then when it is time to trip, the desired jars are removed from the freezer, allowed to warm to room temps, the lids taken off, a small fan set up blowing air across the jars mouths and the liquere evaporated off to a manageble "hit". The small jars then become adminstration "spoons" - where the entire contents (alcohol - water - and extract) can be polished off with the tongue.


Many years ago PF experimented with alcohol extraction of dried magic shroom material. To make the story short, PF found the crystals. But, PF didn't mention that when PF wrote the PF mushroom extraction tek and puplished it in the PF TEK book (1996) and posted it at this website.
PF has monitored the WEB for 7 years and has seen no posts concerning this easy way to extract and seriously concentrate the shrooms magic. PF has always said that this extraction tek solves the "problems" of impotent or mediocre magic shrooms.

Then, finally, these posts have appeared at the MYCOTOPIA interactive myco hobbiest web site:


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