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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: eve69]
    #19281987 - 12/16/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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so what's your plan?



All of the above probably, or as many as I can still fit in :lol:

Topple earth-polluting corporations, corrupt some fresh youth like Picasso did, then fuck until I have a heart attack, go and have a whore-out marathon in some 3rd world country and obviously try to fit in massive, massive trips in there somewhere. Start a cult and make your death some massive mega ritual. Make it mean something, or at least be incredibly fun.

I find it rather worrying that someone would set out to find a great creative idea to do something, and then come up with one of the most common ways imaginable.


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: Spacerific]
    #19282492 - 12/16/13 05:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think you need to rethink your adolescent death fantasy and try first to start living.


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: eve69] * 1
    #19284033 - 12/16/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh? Do I detect some personal bad vibes here?

Have you read this thread, or at least the thread title even? :lol:


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: Spacerific]
    #19284189 - 12/16/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No you detect a portion of your energy coming back at ya.

Frankly I have had enough women to know that whores aren't the most winning idea. I prefer women who aren't adolescents.  While I agree becoming a suicide bomber against Monsanto is what they're asking for I don't agree with much of the rest. I get it, they were examples. What I don't get is the sort of moronic stupidity which started this thread altogether.

I was playing along until I realized that stupid people might think alike and catalyze each other.


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: eve69]
    #19284376 - 12/16/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh you're right, it's not bad vibes against me personally, it's bad vibes in general :lol:

Well whatever helps you through the day. Enjoy :cookiemonster:


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: Spacerific]
    #19284560 - 12/16/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I am master of the blow off and that was weak. When you come of age come back and speak these weak thoughts again if you still have them.  Until then while living with Mommy you sit there and dream your impotent daydreams about offing yourself and becoming your own personal Jesus. Or just stick with masturbation.


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: eve69]
    #19284993 - 12/16/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I am master of the blow off and that was weak. When you come of age come back and speak these weak thoughts again if you still have them.  Until then while living with Mommy you sit there and dream your impotent daydreams about offing yourself and becoming your own personal Jesus. Or just stick with masturbation.




Now this wasnt nice, was it?


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: Icyus]
    #19285052 - 12/16/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I am master of the blow off and that was weak. When you come of age come back and speak these weak thoughts again if you still have them.  Until then while living with Mommy you sit there and dream your impotent daydreams about offing yourself and becoming your own personal Jesus. Or just stick with masturbation.




Now this wasnt nice, was it?




No, and I just came back to erase it, and to say I'm sorry. And I am sorry. I've been in a bad mood.


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: eve69]
    #19285634 - 12/16/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Like I said mate, whatever helps you get through the day. I've been living at home for a year now. If you think there's anything you can say here that'll ruin my day, I think you're overestimating your inner asshole a bit :lol:


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: Icyus]
    #19286536 - 12/16/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've given this one a bit of thought. Not so much out of desperation but as an alternative to terminal illness if/when such an issue arises. Seen the gunshot wounds and self-immolation in a few friends over the years. All were apparently quite painful and those able tried to fight for their last few hours. No bueno. Originally, 10mg alprazolam topped off with a shot of high-quality opiate thought to be better. But that's boring.

Free fall from an airplane, after ingesting a few hundred mgs of mda, explosives strapped, detonate about two hundred yards above an elementary school playground during recess. A day prior, send notices to local psychiatrists to advertise, set to arrive within minutes of detonation.

Best idea I can remember anyway. Or how about bleeding out from pulling a nipple off with needle-nose pliars in an opera? Don't read that headline often.




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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: Icyus]
    #19286729 - 12/17/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm too afraid to ever take my own life, at any age.. I'm afraid there may be consequences that I won't be be able to handle.


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: LordSenate]
    #19286849 - 12/17/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You shouldnt kill yourself because you cant handle living.. else it will haunt you, ie, you will haunt? The sufferings of life we must overcome, else I think we will be reincarnared and it will start again.. i think.

I think one should only kill themselves because of curiosity or sacrafice..


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: Icyus]
    #19286883 - 12/17/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can only think of one reason why I might even remotely consider trying to pursue offing myself actively instead of passively.
And that would be after living a good and long life (which I highly suggest) but having lost all those dear to me. (not being able to procreate makes that a possibility)
My greatest fear is being alone (and not just for a short while or in the dark)
I would rather die than go to a nursing home and be forgotten or worse lose my mind. I would overdose on heroine or some such opiate and slowly drift into the void that surely awaits us on the other side.
But only, ONLY after having completed my passive attempts with my bucket list.
Now I say, GOOD VIBES TO ALL and to all good night. :stoned:


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: Amishmedic8]
    #19290769 - 12/17/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've honestly thought of this quite a lot...

In the end, I don't have the guts to kill myself. Maybe if life gets really intolerable I'll do it but for now it's not likely.

But nevertheless I've given much thought to how I would actually go about doing it. I've had 2 ideas that seemed to jive with me:

1) Terence McKenna recommended using opiates in lethal doses, in order to feel good to death. Dunno if that's actually a good idea... But it's on my list.

2) I always thought if I wanted to go with a bang, a creative way to do it would be to get one of those... flying squirrel type suits... and jump off a very tall building in a big city, and fly yourself straight into either a vehicle or through the window of a retail center for a major multinational corporation or such. Not only would you make a creative impact, but you'd probably die pretty instantly on impact with the kind of velocity you'd get...

Still, I don't think I could do it... Nor do I think I'd get access to the top of a high building. And even if I did... I'd either get knocked out and arrested busting into someone's apartment at a high floor in a tall building, or I'd trip off the balcony of a tall building, misdirect my aim, smack my head into another balcony somewhere, and tumble and cartwheel all the way to the street, perhaps colliding with more objects on the way to my unwary death.


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: FrogMachine]
    #19291848 - 12/18/13 04:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

having overdosed from various opiates, specifically morphine and opana I will tell you what happens - first you take alot, then you wake up with no memory about 8 hours later with someone shaking you.  There's no bliss or joy. There is only nothing.


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: eve69] * 2
    #19292100 - 12/18/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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having overdosed from various opiates, specifically morphine and opana I will tell you what happens - first you take alot, then you wake up with no memory about 8 hours later with someone shaking you.  There's no bliss or joy. There is only nothing.



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having overdosed from various opiates, specifically morphine and opana I will tell you what happens - first you take alot, then you wake up with no memory about 8 hours later with someone shaking you.  There's no bliss or joy. There is only nothing.




No, you wake up with a semi-memory some hours later, or you wake up very abruptly and painfully to an administration of naloxone. There is a little less than bliss or joy or nothing, there is only cold sensation and a small sense of confusion.

If you made eight hours, you likely did not overdose clinically. Depending on opiate and mixture.

How about hiring a suicidal aids patient to rape you? That would also be an uncommon suicide. The 'licking strippers ass' reference above leads me to believe this is not a not 'tounge-in-cheek-thread'.




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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: eve69]
    #19292689 - 12/18/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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having overdosed from various opiates, specifically morphine and opana I will tell you what happens - first you take alot, then you wake up with no memory about 8 hours later with someone shaking you.  There's no bliss or joy. There is only nothing.



That is completely contrary to the first hand accounts relayed to me. My cousin is a paramedic and has told me many of his work stories. One heroin overdose he saved the life of was furious with him for giving him a shot of the anti-opiate drug because it took his high away, and the man was not breathing at the time. So it seems that heroin or other strong opiates literally do bliss you to death even to the point that patients that are in the process of asphyxiating may get upset for ending their euphoric experience with a shot of medicine that saves their life.


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19293307 - 12/18/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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having overdosed from various opiates, specifically morphine and opana I will tell you what happens - first you take alot, then you wake up with no memory about 8 hours later with someone shaking you.  There's no bliss or joy. There is only nothing.



That is completely contrary to the first hand accounts relayed to me. My cousin is a paramedic and has told me many of his work stories. One heroin overdose he saved the life of was furious with him for giving him a shot of the anti-opiate drug because it took his high away, and the man was not breathing at the time. So it seems that heroin or other strong opiates literally do bliss you to death even to the point that patients that are in the process of asphyxiating may get upset for ending their euphoric experience with a shot of medicine that saves their life.




I'm pretty sure Narcan and other opiate antagonists not only reverse the effect of the drug, but they can also send drug users into precipitated withdrawal. It's like withdrawal but worse (in some ways). It's basically full withdrawal symptoms hitting you instantly, sometimes much harder than a normal "peak" of symptoms. That may also have had something to do with him being upset aside from losing his high.

I've only experienced this once when I jumped the gun and took 24mg of suboxone when I felt the first symptoms instead of waiting about 24 hours til the heroin was out of my receptors and I was actually in withdrawal. I took another 16mg a few hours later but it did not help. Didn't make it worse though. Long story short, opiate antagonists are a bitch if it's not in the case of saving your life.

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Free fall from an airplane, after ingesting a few hundred mgs of mda, explosives strapped, detonate about two hundred yards above an elementary school playground during recess. A day prior, send notices to local psychiatrists to advertise, set to arrive within minutes of detonation.




uhh...wut?  :omgz:


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: V1rusH0st]
    #19295797 - 12/18/13 11:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I Miss quoted EllisDee. Sry guys... Im a noob!:tongue2:


Being a medic and having used Narcan. I can vouch for this. Solution is do more opiates alone and dont call the EMT's its a guaranteed one way trip. But again Suicide is a cop out. Dont be a coward LIVE!!!


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Re: Creative suicide? [Re: Amishmedic8]
    #19309813 - 12/21/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Death by Ghost pepper, Chocolate Scorpions, etc. lmao....


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