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Re: Substrates in a self sufficient lifestyle? [Re: Adustus]
    #19296063 - 12/19/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Coffee grounds are already pasteurized. Which is what you want in a bulk substrate. Ive read a few threads about oysters grown on grounds. They will eat the coffee filter as well.

Seems pretty straight forward to me. Just pick up the coffee grounds, and add spawn.


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Re: Substrates in a self sufficient lifestyle? [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #19296105 - 12/19/13 12:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Coffee grounds are already pasteurized. Which is what you want in a bulk substrate. Ive read a few threads about oysters grown on grounds. They will eat the coffee filter as well.

Seems pretty straight forward to me. Just pick up the coffee grounds, and add spawn.




Well Id imagine oysters can because they are total goldburgs. But if you used a more sensitive species I can see how contams happen. Especially if you didnt use spawn first. Ive heard of alot of people who use a wedge or spores or cultures on a small amount and having on and off results.

But I never underestimate the power of some well colonized grain.:thumbup:

Maybe his process needs fine tuning? :shrug:


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Re: Substrates in a self sufficient lifestyle? [Re: Adustus]
    #19296149 - 12/19/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Im saving up my coffee now to try it out. Also  started to save up my organic green tea as well to see if it can be a good additive to substrate mixes.

Figured a good side by side in some jars would be a good way to tell or not. Anyone know any info on green tea use?


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Re: Substrates in a self sufficient lifestyle? [Re: Adustus]
    #19298233 - 12/19/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Coffee works fine but you have to use a small amount that will be colonized in a week or less cuz i_trichoderma loves coffee being as its nutrient rich. If you don't use them fresh then freeze them to keep em sterile. If your growing oysters they literally eat everything! Including oil and other complex hydrocarbons


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Re: Substrates in a self sufficient lifestyle? [Re: mrtumnas]
    #19298531 - 12/19/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I've grown Oysters on Okra stalks with great success, Tomato vines with slightly less success...I've thought about planting an acre of okra, but …





mrtumnas,

About your okra stalks, are you referring to the stalk of the plant or the seed pod/edible okra part?

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Re: Substrates in a self sufficient lifestyle? [Re: DRCola]
    #19300708 - 12/20/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think green tea will be too soft to use. It will stick together and hold more moisture than woody stuff like straw or sawdust or the like. It will be wet with less surface area.


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Re: Substrates in a self sufficient lifestyle? [Re: Adustus]
    #19304183 - 12/20/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think you will have trouble using straight coffee grounds. It is a rather acidic medium without much air, since the particle size is small and it packs together tightly. Oysters will grow on it but if there's not enough air incorporated into the substrate bacteria will take over and stall out even oysters. (This is what happened to me when I tried, although I'd like to give it another try.)I think coffee would mainly be useful as a substrate additive, or perhaps as a main sub with some supplements to control pH and add some air in.


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Re: Substrates in a self sufficient lifestyle? [Re: leschampignons]
    #19305476 - 12/20/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think you will have trouble using straight coffee grounds. It is a rather acidic medium without much air, since the particle size is small and it packs together tightly.




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I haven't actually tried it myself but I tend to agree, I think they would better be used as a supplement (if at all) rather than a substrate.


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Re: Substrates in a self sufficient lifestyle? [Re: Forrester]
    #19306379 - 12/21/13 04:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I used 50:50 starbucks grounds to coir for cubes, I'd imagine it would work for oysters.


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Re: Substrates in a self sufficient lifestyle? [Re: Forrester]
    #19311280 - 12/22/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think you will have trouble using straight coffee grounds. It is a rather acidic medium without much air, since the particle size is small and it packs together tightly.




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I haven't actually tried it myself but I tend to agree, I think they would better be used as a supplement (if at all) rather than a substrate.




Yeah it doesnt seem much beyond oysters handle straight coffee well. Except cubes. They grow on cig butts and that just blows my mind.


Im more into making substrate mixes to give the fungus alot of variety. Seems like tea wouldnt be bad as an additive. But Ive seen coffee do really well as an additive for many species.


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Re: Substrates in a self sufficient lifestyle? [Re: Adustus]
    #19315537 - 12/23/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You read mycellium running by stammets?

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6170694/Mycelium_Running


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Re: Substrates in a self sufficient lifestyle? [Re: shroombie]
    #19318673 - 12/23/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You read mycellium running by stammets?

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6170694/Mycelium_Running




This is actually the copy I have on my kindle. Im still reading How to grow gourmet and medicinal mushrooms by Stamets.


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