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Acacia Confusa in gel cups?
    #19291579 - 12/18/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think to take first syrian rue powder 2g in gel caps, and then
Confusa powder in the same way, to imitate ayahuska.
Is it possible, and what would be the dose, for strong/ light experience?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19292565 - 12/18/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Taking straight acacia powder is going to be rough on your stomach
One reason most folks will do a water extraction...

Technically, might work but timing would be a crap shoot
Your stomach would have to digest the gel cap, then the acacia to get to the DMT
All the while, hoping your MAOI is still effective ...

Why not make a tea and do a couple of extractions?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: HarryL]
    #19292578 - 12/18/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Plus it will be dmt tannate even worse on the stomach. Brew it in a pot with distilled water and lemon juice if your serious about feeling it same with the seeds and grind them up cook em seperate.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Notfromarkansas]
    #19293291 - 12/18/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

according to this video,

it is possible with mimosa hostilis, and you need much less of quantity.
He actually claims it is less rough on the stomach.
also
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=506361#post506361
in the end of the page.
I am a bit confused.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19294081 - 12/18/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You asked for advice
Take it or leave it...

But if some anonymous person is telling you to eat it in a video.. Up to you.... Let us know who it goes.

Seriously.... There is a reason the natives made drinks out of it...

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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: HarryL]
    #19296853 - 12/19/13 07:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks.
Is there a difference between Confusa and mimosa hostilis in term of tanin content/ stomach upset?
Is confusa more harsh?
If I make a brew of both syrian rue and confusa together, will I be able to remove the tanin with a spoon?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19392479 - 01/09/14 07:04 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

I have tried to take plain powder with some water.
Syrian rue 1.5 gr, Mimosa 1.5 gr, 15 minutes later.
It is a mild trip. Very healing and teaching though.
I think I am sensitive though.

1 gr each also produced good results.
even at 0.5 gr each, I was able to function with better intuition and energry, at an important accasion.
Not yet full trip though.
Didnt fill major stomach problems.

I plan to raise up quantities gradually, and see where it goes.
I find it very convenient, especially because I dont have access to cooking facilities.
My wife at the time is watching me, and she doesnt like me using this plants.
It also saves obviously much time, hussle, and plant material, and doesnt taste that bad.
By the way, I assume that traditionally they dont use it this way, is because you cannot do it with caapi, which they use.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19392517 - 01/09/14 07:22 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

1.5mg is such a low dose that I'm surprised you felt anything. Do you not have a place where you can boil the bark and make a tea? I think that's what you should do and use a much higher dose.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19392789 - 01/09/14 09:24 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

1-2 gm sounds like placebo effect to me
Or you were just feeling the rue

Good luck, let us know how it goes


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: HarryL]
    #19392822 - 01/09/14 09:38 AM (10 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

HarryL said:
1-2 gm sounds like placebo effect to me
Or you were just feeling the rue

Good luck, let us know how it goes




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You had some serious placebo trip there.. there is almost nothing happening under 5gs most of the time:dawerp:


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: rikuni]
    #19393715 - 01/09/14 01:28 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Hey there jivangilad, i just wanna say that i've taken Mimosa inner root bark power in capsules many, many, many times before with my Rue and even Moclobemide, and the Mimosa powder was able to be felt at 1 to 2 grams albeit very mildy but it wasn't placebo. With Acacia Confusa though, i've taken 3 grams of Acacia inner root bark in capsules a couple of times with Rue and it def. works although it does seem much harder on the stomach than the Mimosa powder ever did. In fact, anytime i ever took the Mimosa powder, even with Moclobemide instead of the Harmalas, it not once hurt my stomach, it was always the Harmalas that seemed to cause gut issues for me. But with the Acacia, i did have gut pains when i ingested the capsuled bark.

So imo, you should try what i'm doing now, which is to simply brew on up the Acacia Confusa, use egg whites to remove some of the tannins and crap out of the brew and filter out the egg whites. Once the brew is filtered and you've reduced it to about 500 mls or so, it can then be stuck in the freezer overnight and thawed the next day. After it's thawed, you can filter the tea through a coffee filter once more and the result is a clean, clear and practically tasteless Acacia Confusa brew. Granted, there might still be a little sediment in the bottom of the tea once everything is settled, but you can either drink it as is and just avoid the bottom of the brew or you can do what i do and fine tune it if you want which will take a few days, which is done by decanting off the good tea and allowing the sediment to settle and resume pouring, kinda like making wine.

In fact, last night i took about 215 to 220mgs of purified Rue Harmalas in a single capsule and washed it down with a Lemon Balm tea made from 2 grams. 30 minutes later i then drank one gram of Lemon Balm tea mixed with about 15mls of my concentrated Acacia Confusa tea which would be equivalent i think to 6 grams of the inner root bark. And let's just say last night was awesome, pretty much the first time since i've started using the Acacia that i had a pretty good experience. And plus there wasn't really any nausea or purging due to the Lemon Balm.

Though if you choose to go the tea route, i'd say do not acidify the Acacia tea, as acidifying it def. brings out more of the taste and smell. If you don't use an acid, which is fine as far as i'm concerned, then the resulting tea is practically tasteless and very easy to drink especially when mixed with Lemon Balm tea.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19398592 - 01/10/14 11:47 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Though the trip with 1.5 gr was not strong, it was definitely not a placebo, and was very meaningful. And I usually dont want it to be too strong.
Anyway, I prefer not to cook since it is too complicated for me, this days . And if acacia makes problems in the guts, then I guess I will get myself some more Mimosa.
I am curious though to give acacia a go once, with a very small dose and see if it makes gut problem.
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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19398604 - 01/10/14 11:51 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Well if you get the effects you want then there's no reason to go higher. :thumbup:


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19401412 - 01/10/14 10:10 PM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Is this true that taking plain mimosa, you need less material then cooking it, like is stated in the video, and same with syrian rue?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19402025 - 01/11/14 01:16 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

If the Mimosa is inner root bark, and not regular root bark, then it should be potent enough to feel quite a bit with 2, 3 or even 4 capsules. In my earlier days of experimentation (2012, before Mimosa became rare again), i started off by taking 12 capsules of powdered inner root bark and it was sooooooo intense that honestly i believed it was way too much, so i went down to 6 capsules, and even that was a little strong so i went with 3 capsules, which ended up being my sweet spot at the time. I also tried to do a really high dose in just a few capsules, by doing a water extraction (room temp, overnight) on the powdered root bark and filtered out the bark and allowed the liquid to evaporate down to a residue which i scraped up into a purple powder and filled a few capsules with and it did indeed work.

Also, in December of 2012 i had ordered me some Moclobemide so i could give oral Mimosa a try without the Harmalas/Rue, and the day the Moclobemide arrived in the mail i took 150mgs and waited till later on that night and took another 150mgs (equaling 300mgs) and 30 minutes later took 3 00 sized capsules of Mimosa inner root bark powder. Within 30 minutes, i was fucking terrified, i didn't know how and i didn't know why, but holy hell the DMT hit me like it never has before nor since. In fact, i had to wake up my mom (who used to be a nurse) just to get her to help me calm down cuz man that was some strong shit. As for visuals, strange thing is i never really ever got any visuals from Mimosa and that night the only thing i saw were what looked like neon blue Egyptian symbols or something with eyes opened and it was only for a very brief moment. And btw there was zero nausea from the oral Mimosa and Moclobemide, no stomach issues of any kind.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19406811 - 01/12/14 03:51 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

In case I brew it.
Would you say that taking plain powder 1g equals 1g brewed?
I want to know to estimate the dosage.
Also do you say, that simple water extraction on the powder, without cooking, will give the same result as cooking, or will it be less efficient?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19408343 - 01/12/14 01:22 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

Well when i brew my Acacia, if i'm brewing a hundred grams it'll be 500mls of brew, 25mls being approximately a 5 gram dose (1 gram per 5mls). If i'm using 200 grams the brew will still be 500mls but will be 250mls per 100grams, with 5mls being 2 grams per and 15mls being 6 grams.

As for the simple water extraction, i'd say just to brew/cook it instead of doing a water extraction. The only reason i did it before was because i was still trying to find a way to ingest the DMT-containing plant, which ultimately i've settled upon brewing the plant with egg whites and drinking it. If one was going to do the water extraction on the bark, the result would merely be 3 or 4 capsules of powdered/flaky residue, and while it does indeed work, it just takes some time and work and to me it's just not worth the time and work when there are easier ways to ingest this stuff IE brewing with egg whites. Maybe one could perhaps brew the plant with egg whites, filter and then evaporate the brew down to a residue for gel capping, but like i said to me it seems like more work and time that is unnecessary.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19409522 - 01/12/14 06:13 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

I am trying this tonight with acrb in 00 gelcaps. I'm most likely going to eat the syrian rue. Should I grind it? How many acrb caps do you think I should take?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Positive]
    #19409619 - 01/12/14 06:42 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

Yeah grind up the seeds and load em' up in capsules (i use 5 to 6 capsules of Rue seed), and perhaps the same amount of the Acacia, 5 to 6 capsules, as that's how much it took for me to feel pretty good effects from the Acacia inner root bark. And i've personally found it's best to take the Acacia 30 minutes after taking the Rue.

Now the Acacia might be a little rough on the stomach unless it's a very, very fine powder like the consistency of flour, perhaps the same with the Rue seed. I've actually come to find that if you kinda roast the Rue seeds in the oven at like 300 degrees for 15 to 30 minutes or so (you'll know when the smell changes) and then grind the seeds that the seed turns into a finer powder that may be a little easier on the stomach. But, one could always brew up about 2 to 3 grams of Lemon Balm into a tea (if they have it) and that will help curb any nausea and helps atleast with the Rue seed part.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19410863 - 01/13/14 01:16 AM (10 years, 18 days ago)

ate Syrian rue raw. and 8 acrb caps. 45 mins ago. how long should i wait to re-dose. How long do the effects take? I'm making mad rhymes...


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Positive]
    #19411288 - 01/13/14 05:29 AM (10 years, 18 days ago)

Sabnock, Could I ask how do you brew?
How long do you brew the acacia, and how many times?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19412621 - 01/13/14 02:12 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

For brewing the Acacia, i basically do 3 or so boils on the bark and filter each boil. Once all the boils are combined in a big pot, i warm (not heat) up the brew, i add in the necessary egg whites, and then i boil the brew down to about 800mls or so and i filter it through a t-shirt and coffee filter. I then continue boiling/reducing the brew down to 500mls (or a little below it and add water later to make it 500mls), filter once more, and then stick in the freezer overnight and thaw the next day. The result, is a clear/translucent orangey-red tea with a little bit of remaining sediment in the bottom. I pour off the good tea making sure no sediment goes with it, and the rest of the tea that's with the sediment i'll stick back in the freezer and thaw again, and will keep doing that until i get all my Acacia tea away from any sediment.

Mixed with Lemon Balm tea and a little sugar, the Acacia is practically tasteless and very easy to get down.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19417510 - 01/14/14 02:01 PM (10 years, 16 days ago)

I took 2gr syrian rue + 2gr mimosa.
This was a full ayahuaska experience now for me. very remarkable, with visions and communication with spirits.
I have eaten less then 3 hours before, but there was no problem.
I didnt vomit, as I usually did when I have been given traditional brew in Peru. Might be related to the difference in preparation, or mabe vomiting is also related to other factors, such as the nature of the trip itself, and the need for cleansing.
But I think I am a more sensitive then most poeple.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19417739 - 01/14/14 02:59 PM (10 years, 16 days ago)

Yeah, i've been there. Back in 2012 when i was taking the stuff regularly, i noticed that i became more sensitive to it the more i took it. And before i knew it, i was taking pretty much the same dosage of Rue and Mimosa you're taking and it was indeed a full on experience.

Although the experience for me would only last about an hour with 2 grams of Rue. 3 grams of Rue and the experience lasts about 2 to 3 hours, while 4 to 5 grams last about 4 to 6 hours and 6 or so grams of Rue seed tends to lasts about 7 to 8 hours for me.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19420481 - 01/14/14 11:48 PM (10 years, 16 days ago)

It lasted about 3 hours for me.
I am probably more sensitive because I use Lemon balm intensively.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19421084 - 01/15/14 02:43 AM (10 years, 16 days ago)

Wait are you serious? I Just took like 20g acrb and maybe 10g rue. I'll let you guys know how it goes. Last time kindof worked, but....

If this fails I will extract...


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19433239 - 01/17/14 01:14 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

I've tried acacia confusa root bark powder in gelcaps a few times before, taken with 150 mg Harmaline/harmine extract from syrian rue. First time I tried 2.5g, not expecting much. Turned out to be a light experience, and my first ever psychedelic. Another time I tried 4g, and then when I felt like I wanted to go deeper a few hours later, another 4g. And then, foolishly, another 4g a little after that... Fell asleep for a little while and woke up tripping hard, my first "real" trip. I was afraid to really let go and experience the trip. That, coupled with moderate nausea from the 12g of ACRB led to a somewhat bad trip, although there were some good moments. The world looked like paint by numbers, and time seemed to slow to a crawl. Couple weeks later I took 2g and went for a bike ride, it started kicking in as I arrived home again. It was light but felt a lot more intense than the first 2.5g trip, and reminded me of the bad trip moments I had the previous time. Sitting on the floor in the shower with my eyes closed and letting the water stream over me felt amazing though, haha.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: electron]
    #19731328 - 03/22/14 05:53 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I have tried 2 gr Syrian rue powder + 2.5 gr Acacia confusa powder plain with water.
I have waited 15 minutes between them.
The experience was not too strong, but a good and very healing one.
I didn't feel especially bad in my stomach, and didn't purge.
I might try to raise the dosage slowly.
I was planning to drink the Acacia with milk, as I have read it might help with the Tannin.
But I see that with this quantities, it is not necessary. At least not for me.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19732228 - 03/22/14 12:10 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I strongly disagree that taking the raw powder is rough on the stomach. Well, anymore rough than brewing it. I've experimented with both routes and by far drinking a rue tea followed by consuming 5-6g in capsules 15 min later is the best method of consumption. It's simply stellar.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19732956 - 03/22/14 03:40 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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For brewing the Acacia, i basically do 3 or so boils on the bark and filter each boil. Once all the boils are combined in a big pot, i warm (not heat) up the brew, i add in the necessary egg whites, and then i boil the brew down to about 800mls or so and i filter it through a t-shirt and coffee filter. I then continue boiling/reducing the brew down to 500mls (or a little below it and add water later to make it 500mls), filter once more, and then stick in the freezer overnight and thaw the next day. The result, is a clear/translucent orangey-red tea with a little bit of remaining sediment in the bottom. I pour off the good tea making sure no sediment goes with it, and the rest of the tea that's with the sediment i'll stick back in the freezer and thaw again, and will keep doing that until i get all my Acacia tea away from any sediment.

Mixed with Lemon Balm tea and a little sugar, the Acacia is practically tasteless and very easy to get down.




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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: allseeingike]
    #19733199 - 03/22/14 04:57 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah i forgot to add in that post that after you freeze and thaw the brew, you have to filter it first, then stick it back in the freezer and re-thaw again. The reason being that after the first thawing, there's still what looks like egg in there as well as some sediment, so once you filter that out, stick it back in the freezer and then re-thaw, then the result is a clear tea with a little bit of sediment in the bottom, and then one can pour off the good tea.

Just wanted to throw that out there cuz i guess i forgot to add that part lol.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19733255 - 03/22/14 05:15 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

what is the egg for?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: allseeingike]
    #19734279 - 03/22/14 09:54 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

The egg whites are to cleanse the Acacia, Mimosa, Chaliponga and Chacruna brews. I have tried it on Acacia, Chaliponga and Mimosa but not Chacruna, but all three plants made teas that tasted near about the same, practically tasteless and it's very easy to drink.

By adding the egg whites, it not only get's rid of much of the tannins and sediment but also helps to improve the taste of the resulting tea. If it weren't for this egg white thing, i wouldn't be able to drink these teas at all.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19736816 - 03/23/14 02:09 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I am not sure about the taste of the tea.
Drinking the Acacia/ Mimosa powder is not tasty.
Anyway it is like sweet chocolate comparing to traditional Ayahuaska.
I believe that also tea of Mimosa/ Acacia alone without syrian rue tastes much better then Ayahuaska.
Still unpleasant though. I drink it as quickly as I can.
But with Ayahuaska of course, the taste and smell dont leave you a long time after drinking.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19736833 - 03/23/14 02:14 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Fuck NO!… you can't ingest powder!


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19737760 - 03/23/14 06:02 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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I am not sure about the taste of the tea. I believe that also tea of Mimosa/ Acacia alone without syrian rue tastes much better then Ayahuaska. Still unpleasant though.




I use egg whites on my Acacia, Mimosa and Chaliponga teas, and it not only cleans them up into a clear/translucent reddish/orange teas but also makes them taste much, much better. In fact, i've drank sweet tea or sweet Lemon Balm tea mixed with the Acacia, Mimosa or Chaliponga teas, and it's so incredibly easy to drink. With for instance the Acacia tea, i'll mix it with sweet iced tea and drink it cold, it goes down real smooth. With Acacia and Lemon Balm tea, i usually tend to drink it warm. In both cases, it tastes pretty good going down, incredibly tolerable taste. Then again, i don't make the teas acidic and i use egg whites to cleanse them.

And i agree, don't mix the Acacia tea with Rue tea or what not, instead, i simply take either Rue seed capsules (which i used to do) or i take a Harmala extract or full spectrum extract capsule (which i do now), and then i wait for the Harmalas to kick in (about an hour and a half) and then will drink the Acacia tea and it's awesome.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: FUTURIST]
    #19737989 - 03/23/14 07:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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FUTURIST said:
Fuck NO!… you can't ingest powder!




Actually, fuck yes you can, with very good results, if not better than the brew. I've done it many times both ways. I prefer the powder


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19741032 - 03/24/14 01:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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i simply take either Rue seed capsules (which i used to do) or i take a Harmala extract or full spectrum extract capsule (which i do now), and then i wait for the Harmalas to kick in (about an hour and a half) and then will drink the Acacia tea and it's awesome.





You wait an hour and a half? why? most people say they wait 15 minutes.
What am I missing?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19741079 - 03/24/14 01:47 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Well from what i can gather, i'm either a slow metabolizer of Harmalas or it's because i take them in capsule form. Even when i would take ground Rue seed and Mimosa powder in capsules, Rue first and Mimosa 30 minutes later, it would of course work but it wouldn't kick in until 2 hours after ingestion of the Rue. So, while i will feel a slight feeling from the Harmalas about 30 to 45 minutes after ingestion, it seems as though it doesn't fully kick in until about 2 hours after ingestion. I've tried waiting 30 minutes, 45 minutes, an hour, but i noticed that the DMT would only start becoming active at about an hour and a half after ingestion of the Harmalas.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19743260 - 03/24/14 09:43 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting.
I am not a science expert, but if MAO breaks down DMT, and your body doesnt get the harmaline in an hour and a half, it should have broken down the DMT in the hour and half , when you have taken DMT just after the Hamaline.

Anyway,How much time after ingesting Mimosa/ Acacia, do you feel their effect?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19744036 - 03/25/14 01:44 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

After ingesting the Mimosa or Acacia, i usually feel it within 15 to 30 minutes, though that's with MAO-A fully inhibited (an hour and a half after taking the Harmalas). When i take Mimosa or Acacia 30 minutes after the Harmalas/Rue, the Mimosa or Acacia doesn't start kicking in till roughly the same time, an hour and a half.

As for MAO breaking down DMT, while it does break down DMT, i and other believe there are alternative routes of metabolization for DMT, possibly including CYP enzymes. I've noticed if i take DMT with Moclobemide, the DMT comes up, stays for about 30 to 40 minutes to an hour and then fades away even though MAO is still inhibited by the Moclobemide. Also when MAO is inhibited by the Harmalas/Rue/Caapi and one smokes DMT, the duration of smoked DMT is only slightly prolonged and yet it still get's broken down apparently by some other enzyme or what not.

Either it has something to do with the Harmalas being encapsulated, or something to do with my digestion, or i'm a slow metabolizer of Ayahuasca due to the CYP2D6 enzyme. But hell if i know.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19746455 - 03/25/14 06:16 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

So I tried the powdered method on monday with 1.5 grams of rue + 2 grams acrb, very very mild. I think I may have mistimed or the dose was to low.
I will up it to 2,5 grams of rue to 3 grams acrb and try to find a good spot using this roa, hopefully this is enough for entrance to dmt.

I will be making a tea, but want to experiement with this method. peace


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: immortalsennin]
    #19758898 - 03/28/14 06:16 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

immortalsennin, I would love to hear how it goes.
I think to give to my friends and I am trying to figure out a good dosage.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19873296 - 04/20/14 10:37 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

With Acacia confusa, I have had only a mild effect with 2.5 gram. Also it took more time to feel the effect, and I didn't vomit. It actually seems to me that vomiting is part of the cleansing for me.
I have ordered Mimosa, and was more satisfied with the effects , with 2 gram. Not too strong, but very healing.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19873336 - 04/20/14 10:54 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Your going to want at least 3 grams of rue to be fully inhibited.


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