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Mountainmusic
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my first grow - and my first journey from it; hard trip. *DELETED*
#19291153 - 12/17/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thayendanegea
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Re: my first grow - and my first journey from it; hard trip. [Re: Mountainmusic]
#19292290 - 12/18/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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To me, it sounds as if you had a pretty normal trip.Trick is to not fight those feelings...good trips are meant to guide you.... not to be controlled by you.
Just make sure your head is right before you start...some meditation to clear negative thoughts or energies, plenty of rest, and stay hydrated before and during. Also, realize that the come-up is strong and is accompanied by some discomfort but, will, in fact subside.
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Mountainmusic
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Re: my first grow - and my first journey from it; hard trip. [Re: Thayendanegea]
#19292464 - 12/18/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks, nice advice ... yeah I did notice uncommon thirst throughout ...
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SynKyd
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Re: my first grow - and my first journey from it; hard trip. [Re: Mountainmusic]
#19292871 - 12/18/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice report and sounds like good potency on 2 grams. Scale it back if you were uncomfortable, you may just have some strong genetics-
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FrozenHappiness
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Re: my first grow - and my first journey from it; hard trip. [Re: SynKyd]
#19293052 - 12/18/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds like you just need some more familiarity with the mushroom experience . Even when a trip isn't particualarly bad it can be difficult, the confusion, and rapid thoughts, and overwhelming sensory input can all be too much sometimes, and you end up wanting it to be over.
If you find yourself in that situation again I recomend you finding a comfortable place to lay down and close your eyes, and surrender to the experience. Trying to distract yourself typically makes things more difficult (for me at least).
I often advise people to start small and progressively increase the dose by small increments. In your case I suggest increasing by 0.5g or even 0.25g each trip to gain familiarity with the head space.
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Mountainmusic
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Re: my first grow - and my first journey from it; hard trip. [Re: FrozenHappiness]
#19297079 - 12/19/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Frozen’ Sinyster’, thanks for those thoughtful responses;
I guess I’m finding myself on this inquest of sorts to try to figure out what or why it was difficult .. hard .. bad … or simply stated: a kind of experience I wanted to subside as soon as possible.
Not to get too cerebral over it.
Yuh know .. I was thinking earlier today … back a few years ago, I took some children (relatives in my family, and a couple friends) to this big amusement park … after a lot of daring, posturing, and chest-pounding they had among themselves, then they all wanted to go on the big roller coaster there.
Ok, fine …
Wham! there they go! Up, up, up … Zoom whoosh! zip, spinning .. then, a big loop .. upside-down … this and that .. crazy!
A few minutes later, the cars pull back into the station … a few of the boys were exhilarated and said it was the greatest experience … the other 2 boys were shaken up pretty rough emotionally and were crying, anxious, they could not wait for it to end.
Hmm, … I’m thinking …now I know they went up and down and around the very same course sequence.
At this point, my analogy disintegrates … anyone’s internal “ride” on a mushroom trip can’t possibly have anything remotely similar to another person’s “trip”.
There’s necessarily a great deal more conformity and homogeneity within a group of persons riding some mechanical contraption for a thrill.
One amazing observation worth noting, it greatly surprised me, how quickly at one point finally, all the visual stuff and accompanying scattered state of mind receded. I mean it toned down in an instant, a fell swoop, after which point, I had a very relaxed experience. And even felt at some peace. But I had to wait few hours for that.
I still wonder what the “scare” factor is/was. Thanks for the advice to relax and not fight it …
Given human nature, I imagine one’s fears brewing around underneath tend to exacerbate the situation.
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Re: my first grow - and my first journey from it; hard trip. [Re: Mountainmusic]
#19297150 - 12/19/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There can be many reasons for getting the fear, or sometimes no apparent reason at all-- even when set and setting are perfect. Sometimes the effects come on very quickly and strongly and you panic. Sometimes you hang on to the pre-trip anxiety. Sometimes you start thinking about some shit that you probably shouldn't and get stuck in a loop. Sometimes it creeps up on you with little or no warning. There probably is a subconscious component to this but I don't know for certian. As psychonauts, I think our greatest tool in dealing with these kind of trips is experience and familiarity with the head space.
Good luck out there OP, and may your future experiences be awe inspiring and full of wonder.
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Re: my first grow - and my first journey from it; hard trip. [Re: FrozenHappiness]
#19299699 - 12/19/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is an unpredictable beast.........don't overthink it just take a couple weeks off and you'll figure it out, looking forward to that next report.........
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Mountainmusic
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Re: my first grow - and my first journey from it; hard trip. [Re: SynKyd]
#19300483 - 12/19/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the many encouraging thoughts; yeah, I'm gonna try again in a month or so .. about 1/2 of that dose at the most ... and see.
Stuff was potent!
Well probably, I wonder, maybe no more potent than all else out there, but it's me - in that I'm acutely sensitive to any material going in my body; geez, I feel a Tylenol for crimony sakes ...
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Re: my first grow - and my first journey from it; hard trip. [Re: Mountainmusic]
#19301390 - 12/20/13 04:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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All that from 2 grams, I wouldn't think that would be too overwhelming to someone or have potential for that bad of a trip.
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Mountainmusic
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Re: my first grow - and my first journey from it; hard trip. [Re: jtv56]
#19301791 - 12/20/13 08:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I apparently hadn't expected it would be that strong either; well, maybe it wouldn't have been that strong normally to anyone else, but for me it was a bunch too intense. I'm definitely on the over sensitive side.
I feel eager to pursue further reading on other users' approach and strategy to the fear issue. There's a lot to read here in this forum.
meanwhile,
I've embarked now into a new realm, by the way, to try to grow portabella mushrooms (from spore syringe) ... based on a number of growing methods I've located online.
They ain't gonna make things "breathe" and "undulate" .. but they'll be good on pizza and whatever ... I'll post progress in the gourmet forum.
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Edited by Mountainmusic (12/20/13 08:02 AM)
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