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maddad
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I definitely agree that high doses are nothing to be taken lightly. I was just merely trying to show the fact that it might not be possible for some people to reach that point. When others said it was possible for them with less than 5gm. Level 5 for me is strictly DMT zone, aside from that rare acid trip. Ayahuasca can get me there as well.
As I said I wouldn't recommend going higher than 7-10gm. I don't think the experience gets any broader after that point. Very cloudy and not easy to recollect. Trust me for I while I thought there was endless depth. But I also think that you need to take a little too much at least once to know what your limit is.
I wouldn't advise you take my advice though, it might drive some crazy.
It drove me crazy... Hah
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Nihon_Hyperspace
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Re: How much mushrooms to blindfold you? [Re: maddad]
#19290579 - 12/17/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not on SSRI's or anything like that. One time I ate 6.5 grams of properly dried cyanescens that I picked myself and had a solid level 3 experience. Don't get me wrong I definitely tripped but nowhere close to level 5 not even level 4.
It's one of the reasons I prefer LSD over mushrooms. I feel that I have a naturally high tolerance to psilocybin, while having a very low tolerance of LSD. One hit of LSD can sometimes get me to level 3 especially if some green is thrown into the mix. Shrooms just doesn't do it for me like other psychs, even LSA is consistently more powerful for me.
To each his own though. Shrooms ended up being one my least preferred psychs because the taste alone makes me want to purge immediately and sometimes the come up can be extremely uncomfortable. I also find that many of my shroom trips have not been as clear-headed and lucid compared to substances such as LSD. I still have great respect for mushrooms, however. I might not prefer mushrooms but I still love the experience nonetheless.
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Eclipse3130
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Nihon_Hyperspace said: I'm not on SSRI's or anything like that. One time I ate 6.5 grams of properly dried cyanescens that I picked myself and had a solid level 3 experience. Don't get me wrong I definitely tripped but nowhere close to level 5 not even level 4.
It's one of the reasons I prefer LSD over mushrooms. I feel that I have a naturally high tolerance to psilocybin, while having a very low tolerance of LSD. One hit of LSD can sometimes get me to level 3 especially if some green is thrown into the mix. Shrooms just doesn't do it for me like other psychs, even LSA is consistently more powerful for me.
You had a weak batch of Cyanescens. I took 3.5 grams dried of some Cyans and basically felt nothing. I took 2.5 grams of a different batch of cyans 2 weeks later and had a total level 3 almost level 4 experience. You just had weak shrooms that time. If you actually took 6.5 grams of proper potency Psilocybe Cyanescens, holy shit.. I don't even know where to start what that trip would be like.
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Re: How much mushrooms to blindfold you? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19290959 - 12/17/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE for your amazing answers!
To clarify now that I am revisiting this thread, I have used the sacred mushrooms many times and have always learnt and developed new understanding every time, and my highest ever dose has been 5g dried.
I am asking out of pure curiosity of the capacity of the mind. I want to know if mushrooms can launch you into infinity in a somewhat similar fashion to DMT.. being structurally similar and a sacred tool to the spiritual world. Although no definitive answer can be given, I now have an understanding of the concept.
Some interesting points have been raised in this thread, particularly that regarding to visuals. Mushrooms have a highly variable psilocybin/psilocin content, though not as variable as mescaline content in cacti. Any given batch of mushrooms could have a varying content of psychoactive alkaloids, be it from the same species or even the same grow! I've had visuals that last only 2 hours, I've had no visuals but an intense mindfuck, I mean, shit, anything can happen!
Also - letting go of the mind is an interesting concept. I find that I have had much more powerful and immersive experience with mushrooms on a lower dose but 'letting go' of my mind and letting the mushrooms sweep me off my feet, than on a higher dose and being in a conflicting mindset. This fits into the hypotheses pushed forward here about high doses of mushrooms.
Once again, thanks everyone.
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RiparianZoneJunky
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Nihon_Hyperspace said: I'm not on SSRI's or anything like that. One time I ate 6.5 grams of properly dried cyanescens that I picked myself and had a solid level 3 experience. Don't get me wrong I definitely tripped but nowhere close to level 5 not even level 4.
It's one of the reasons I prefer LSD over mushrooms. I feel that I have a naturally high tolerance to psilocybin, while having a very low tolerance of LSD. One hit of LSD can sometimes get me to level 3 especially if some green is thrown into the mix. Shrooms just doesn't do it for me like other psychs, even LSA is consistently more powerful for me.
To each his own though. Shrooms ended up being one my least preferred psychs because the taste alone makes me want to purge immediately and sometimes the come up can be extremely uncomfortable. I also find that many of my shroom trips have not been as clear-headed and lucid compared to substances such as LSD. I still have great respect for mushrooms, however. I might not prefer mushrooms but I still love the experience nonetheless.
Try tea dude, I also want to puke just from the taste of shrooms and after switching to tea I sip down one glass of pretty decent tasting liquid then trip balls. You definitely had some weak cyans or just have a high resistance to psilocybin, I've done 20g fresh and had a solid level 4.
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RiparianZoneJunky
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Re: How much mushrooms to blindfold you? [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
#19291253 - 12/18/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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There have really been some interesting threads lately about the lack of visuals on mushrooms. I've really discovered that either I am blessed with an incredibly low threshold for psychedelics, or you guys are defining "visuals" as something different than I do. I can get pretty intense OEVs off an eight of cubes or 2g woodlovers, and lying back in the dark with eyes closed on that dose will get me to astral projection, out of body experiences, visitations from entities, sacred epiphanies etc. It's weird how differently these drugs affect different people.
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Nihon_Hyperspace
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Re: How much mushrooms to blindfold you? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#19291696 - 12/18/13 03:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said:
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Nihon_Hyperspace said: I'm not on SSRI's or anything like that. One time I ate 6.5 grams of properly dried cyanescens that I picked myself and had a solid level 3 experience. Don't get me wrong I definitely tripped but nowhere close to level 5 not even level 4.
It's one of the reasons I prefer LSD over mushrooms. I feel that I have a naturally high tolerance to psilocybin, while having a very low tolerance of LSD. One hit of LSD can sometimes get me to level 3 especially if some green is thrown into the mix. Shrooms just doesn't do it for me like other psychs, even LSA is consistently more powerful for me.
You had a weak batch of Cyanescens. I took 3.5 grams dried of some Cyans and basically felt nothing. I took 2.5 grams of a different batch of cyans 2 weeks later and had a total level 3 almost level 4 experience. You just had weak shrooms that time. If you actually took 6.5 grams of proper potency Psilocybe Cyanescens, holy shit.. I don't even know where to start what that trip would be like.
You're running under the assumption that I've only dosed a high amount of mushrooms one time. I've dosed anywhere from 5-7 grams a number of times with similar results. Every psychedelic substance affects each user differently.
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