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first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS
    #19289052 - 12/17/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

alright guys,  cakes in my SGFC are taking their sweet time going through the second flush now, and I have another batch ready to go and no space to fruit them, so rather than build another SGFC and get more perlite, racks etc. I decided better use them as spawn so that way I start getting  my feet wet on bulk grows while all my grain jars finish,so here we go

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fruiting chamber
-27qt Sterilite tub, with six 1.5" holes in typical monotub fashion
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-13 brf cakes 100% colonized



bulk substrate

1-half a brick of coir
2-1 quart verm




I'm gonna be pasteurizing my substrate following frank's tek and crumbling the cakes as spawn.Shooting for 3+ quarts of spawn and 5 quarts of bulk substrate for a projected 4 inches sub depth

got some cooking to do tonight    :hahyeahwoo:

wish me luck fellas, any input and tips would be appreciated

-spawned to bulk 12/18



-colonization progress 12/20



-100% colonization achieved 12/28



-introduced to fruiting conditions 12/30



-side pinning 01/05



-first flush(206.7 grams wet)01/10



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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: loki44]
    #19289058 - 12/17/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

just missing polyfill.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: silverstem]
    #19289079 - 12/17/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yes, you are right,but I don't need it now, so I'll go pick some up at wally world when tub is ready to fruit


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: loki44]
    #19290040 - 12/17/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

we are in business! pasteurizing as we speak



I had to add an extra half quart of verm , because substrate was too wet, seems franks formula doesn't work very well when reduced to scale or maybe my brick of coir didn't have enough coir lol

Anybody knows how long I need to wait for the substrate to cool down  enough at room temperature to mix it with spawn? would love to get down and dirty asap and get this tub done tonight


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: loki44]
    #19290110 - 12/17/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just from what i've read (have yet to do my first grow) most teks say overnight, don't be such an eager beaver :P Are you planning on misting every day? Im not sure if small mono tubs also don't need to be misted or fanned every single day.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: letterbomb325]
    #19290131 - 12/17/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Just from what i've read (have yet to do my first grow) most teks say overnight, don't be such an eager beaver :P Are you planning on misting every day? Im not sure if small mono tubs also don't need to be misted or fanned every single day.




That is untrue. I have read numerous times, 80-90 degrees is perfect. My substrate was 90 degree, when I spawned to it.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: daltonvz]
    #19290148 - 12/17/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Past. Temps are 140 to 160. Keep your probe one the center then you'll know exactly when it's safe to spawn; )


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: daltonvz]
    #19290172 - 12/17/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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That is untrue.





That was a bit uneccessary, It stays hot for a long time after you pasteurize it,  indeed 80-90F is ideal, but that can take up to 16 hours depending on the volume of the bag.

PS beautiful pic, almost looks like cocaine :wink:


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: letterbomb325]
    #19290359 - 12/17/13 07:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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That is untrue.





That was a bit uneccessary, It stays hot for a long time after you pasteurize it,  indeed 80-90F is ideal, but that can take up to 16 hours depending on the volume of the bag.

PS beautiful pic, almost looks like cocaine :wink:




Good point. Never gave amount any thought lol. Be sure to take great notes while growing it will help in future grows.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: daltonvz]
    #19290413 - 12/17/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I give mine over night. The cooling proccess is important this is when the microbes are spreading


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: loki44]
    #19290634 - 12/17/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am new and this is actually my first post. I apologize if you already said,  but what type of substrate are you using? I am also curious about the strain. I am about to start one of my own here soon so I am reading up nonstop!


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: Sgt-Shroomy]
    #19290643 - 12/17/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: Sgt-Shroomy]
    #19290648 - 12/17/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Are you asking me?


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: daltonvz] * 1
    #19290662 - 12/17/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Op i would skip the slates


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: daltonvz]
    #19290719 - 12/17/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I was actually asking the OP. I have been reading on these boards for years but just finally decided to join today. Unfortunately I am not familiar with this posting stuff. Reading is way easier.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: cronicr]
    #19291048 - 12/17/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I give mine over night. The cooling proccess is important this is when the microbes are spreading




good point, damn it was kinda hard to get the temp up on my stove

I had to reheat 3 extra times, first time stalled at 102F, then it stalled at 130F and then at 152F last time I turned the stove back on only 4 mins so it peaked at 158F, I guess it will take a lot more tweaking to get this thing right because the numbers were all over


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: loki44]
    #19291058 - 12/17/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Youll have it down after a couple runs


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: cronicr]
    #19291074 - 12/17/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the warm welcome.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: Sgt-Shroomy]
    #19291083 - 12/17/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I am new and this is actually my first post. I apologize if you already said,  but what type of substrate are you using? I am also curious about the strain. I am about to start one of my own here soon so I am reading up nonstop!





substrate is:
-coco coir(brand eco earth)half a brick
-vermiculite 1.5qts
-1 cup of gypsum
-2.5qts of water

"strain" is pink buffalo, although all those "strain" names are usually more of a marketing gimmick by vendors cause all cubes look pretty much the same, the ones I've grown and the pics I see on these site all the time, except penis envy.

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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: loki44]
    #19291858 - 12/18/13 04:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I completely agree. A cube is a cube in my eyes, but the fancy names keep me excited. I was mostly wondering if they were cubes or not. My grows have all been cubes or pan cyans in a martha setup. I have never done anything smaller but I am planning to do pan cambos in a monotub next week. I am far from a pro so reading teks and logs has taught me quite a bit very quickly. I wish I had pictures to post of my first ever grow in a martha. You would all get a good laugh.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: Sgt-Shroomy]
    #19294401 - 12/18/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

spawned to bulk



birthed the brf cakes batch(13), one loss to trich

crumbled the healthy cakes using my bare hands through a zipblock bag, mixed everything in a 5 gallon bucket and then dumped in the prepped tub

was kinda of a pain in the ass to cut the excess plastic liner with scissors  in such close quarters,anybody know a better way to do it?

and now we wait

how long you guys think it will take to fully colonize?


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: loki44]
    #19294442 - 12/18/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the trench method is outdated and bad info i would remove those plastic layers because they dont do anything except screw up an even pinset.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: silverstem]
    #19294450 - 12/18/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: daltonvz]
    #19294492 - 12/18/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

haha, I read the thread and the OP was getting a lot of hate just because his tek  wasn't scientific enough due to he didn't  run isolates, which is ridiculous, in any case chances are it will not harm the pinset, so I will give it a shot


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: loki44]
    #19294531 - 12/18/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well I tried it for myself and its crap. The main reason is that because cubensis has a tendency to want to pin from the sides of a substrate. If given a choice between side pinning and top pinning it will pour all of its energy into the side pins. Which sounds great but, ends up leaving all the spots on top bare while pins crowd each other in the slits.

The other problem is that the pins will leave debris over the tops of the grooves and I believe that creates pockets of CO2 in those blocked up areas where the FAE is unable to get in. I had my first case of cobweb from doing this, and the cobweb only flourished in the grooves.

If that was my tub, I would leave the plastic in, and then you should still get a half decent pinset on top, without the sub pouring all its energy just into the grooves. Either that or take it out now and mix it back up a bit. However some people like to find things out for themselves (I know I do :lol:). Just make sure to post pics and or results no matter how it turns out so everyone can benefit :thumbup:


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19294572 - 12/18/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the plastic stays lol, if it turn out a shitty pinset I'll discard it for future projects, although pinset at this point is the least of my issues, the green meanie is

but I'll will post pics of results regardless of the outcome, monos are exciting :tongue2:


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    #19294581 - 12/18/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: loki44]
    #19294693 - 12/18/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have never seen this method using the plastic slats. I have always liked to think of myself as a shroom farmer. Regardless of the outcome, i think it is badass how it looks like a mini field with rows of crops. You should sterilize a little toy tractor and barn and put in there. I understand it isn't ideal but it would be a hell of a pic. Either way, good luck.

Also, don't take this the wrong way but that tub looks pretty small compared to most others i have seen. Im not trying to judge your process. Just want to learn. I have been trying to decide if I should do a large tub or split it between multiple smaller ones. What do you think?


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: Sgt-Shroomy]
    #19294714 - 12/18/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

tub is small because my available spawn was 3 quarts, and is not even grains but brf cakes wich are 2/3 verm, once my grain jars finish I will do 66qt tubs


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    #19294984 - 12/18/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ok I understand. I like this tub setup because its cheap and easy. You can just use a smaller container that fits what you have. I hate to ask something that I can search for but is it possible for a tub to be too big? My understanding is that the substrate thickness and room for shroomies to grow is all that matters. When I searched I found threads that said the size doesn't matter. Others listed a minimum and max size. Because I am buying everything new, I would like to get the biggest tub that will work so I don't have to upgrade later. I promise I will quit asking questions, but I really do appreciate all of your advice.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: Sgt-Shroomy]
    #19294999 - 12/18/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Really the sky is the limit for tub size you just have to adjust for proper FAE  and humidity levels


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    #19295579 - 12/18/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have an idea. I will line a spare bedroom with plastic and "install" a mycelium floor.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: Sgt-Shroomy]
    #19295651 - 12/18/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

LOL ^^ Do that and this will be the results

 


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: DannyDGAF]
    #19295655 - 12/18/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i got a 400 gallon tote i still wanna use but the thought of waisting 50 jars scared me lol


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    #19295671 - 12/18/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the thing is it would be so hard for the sub to restore humidity after opening the lid in larger tubs like that...


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: silverstem]
    #19295692 - 12/18/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yes maintaining proper conditions would be almost too much work and i knew i would have better results with a few 66 qt tubs but the thought bugged me out for awhile, had to look at my empty tote every day :shakefist:
would be bad ass to see it work though! i've done up to 110 gallons with success but the over all shape was perfect on that one where as my 400 gallon is to square


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: silverstem]
    #19295704 - 12/18/13 11:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thinkin about it, silverstem's right.  Think of the amount of moisture the substrate would need to pour back into the air into humidity for such a large bin... Hmm... Makes ya think that's for sure.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: DannyDGAF]
    #19295712 - 12/18/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just wondering, how the fuck does a mushroom grow that big like the one I just posted.  That's just mind boggling o_O...


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    #19295798 - 12/18/13 11:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

hahahaha i wish cubes grew that big.. i would grow 1 and be like how we gonna devide this mothafucka up

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    #19295810 - 12/18/13 11:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Now that is a good ass question!  lmao


Oh what I would give for one of those big ass mushrooms.  I would sleep with that bitch and nibble on it all night long.  In a sexy way till I loose my ego, at least....


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    #19295814 - 12/18/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:goodburger::lmafo::hahthatsrich::ahahaha::needsomeair:


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: DannyDGAF]
    #19295816 - 12/18/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

divide wut up? i would hiding in the bush being like"fuck you guys i'm set!"


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    #19295828 - 12/18/13 11:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:creepylurker: i could see you now hahaha.


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    #19295845 - 12/18/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

LMFAO this thread gave me the laugh I needed tonight.  Job well done guys!!! 


Oh Sorry to the OP for jacking this thread from ya bro!
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Me and my huge mushroom are going to go hide where none of y'all can see us inside a tunnle in the park.  You can keep the bush cronicr :wink:


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    #19295860 - 12/18/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you guys get one, the patch is mine:wink:


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    #19298285 - 12/19/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

lol guys stop clowning in my thread...:tongue2: all that obsession with size, someone would think someone is trying to overcompensate...:grin:


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    #19298295 - 12/19/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

LOL dude my bad for that.  Just got that thought sparked in my head on what we would do with that bitch oh boy.  It's over tho, sorry for jacking yer thread bro!


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: DannyDGAF]
    #19302419 - 12/20/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:ohboyohboyohboy:



I cant believe this , less than 2 days and is almost covered with mycelium WTF. I wasn't expecting to see much up until around day 5 maybe, since from most accounts, it takes around 10 days for full colonization, looks like it's liking my pasteurized coir, hoping is not cobweb or some other nastie haha

you guys miring my mini mono :tongue2:

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    #19302441 - 12/20/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What are your fins for?


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Looks mighty fine, man.


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    #19309237 - 12/21/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Looks like winter at the mini shroom farm. Badass Loki.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: Sgt-Shroomy]
    #19336962 - 12/28/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think this one is ready to fuit

10 days after spawning here we are





slats removed



time to head 4 wally world to pick up some polyfill

I put the lid back on and kept the tape  because I need to give it a day or 2 more for the mycelium to recover in the areas the slats were  removed, after that  fruiting time

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    #19336972 - 12/28/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup:


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    #19336973 - 12/28/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just a heads up....the slatting tek is garbage.

I wish you luck tho.....


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    #19336982 - 12/28/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid: but i think i already stated that somewhere in this thread lol! just prove us wrong though ok:wink:


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: cronicr]
    #19337027 - 12/28/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

for guys using isolates/clones slating tek may be redundant but for us folk in the MS realm it may help with pinning

anyways I will be a happy camper if i can get a first flush without contams visible, this is a pilot project for the 66-qts monotubs that are coming after, so we will see


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    #19337116 - 12/28/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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for guys using isolates/clones slating tek may be redundant but for us folk in the MS realm it may help with pinning



Yes, it may, but not total yield......and that should be what matters.


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    #19338196 - 12/28/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Yes, it may, but not total yield......and that should be what matters.




wat? dude this tek will double or triple your total yield guaranteed  :tongue2:


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    #19338225 - 12/28/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:smbfacepalm:


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    #19338253 - 12/28/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid:      Prove it.


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    #19338330 - 12/28/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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    #19338348 - 12/28/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:logic:  :respect:


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: cronicr]
    #19348135 - 12/30/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

12/30 introduced to fruiting conditions





There's some water pooling at the bottom, between liner and tub, should I drill a hole to drain it? or should I leave for humidity purposes?

also polyfil tight at the bottom and light at the top holes, oscillating fan running on lowest setting for FAE

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    #19348151 - 12/30/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the water is fine to sit till harvest time:thumbup: no biggie


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    #19348163 - 12/30/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

cronicr how many days on average for a monotub to pin?


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    #19348182 - 12/30/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

way too many variables but usually within a week


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    #19348226 - 12/30/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

thanks, cant wait to see some pinning in this little guy, I'm pasteurizing as we speak a brick of coir for a 66qt big brother, gf is not happy :tongue2:


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: loki44]
    #19363230 - 01/03/14 12:35 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

two more 66qt monotubs colonizing, spawned to bulk 2 days apart you see the bottom one already turning WHITE(8 quarts  of grain per monotub and 1 brick of coir)





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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: loki44]
    #19369958 - 01/04/14 07:31 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

guys I'm having issues with my 27qt monotub maybe drying up from too much FAE

I have basically no condensation on the walls of the tub. I turned off the fan on the room, and stuck the tub in the closet to try to limit FAE but still no condensation showing up on the walls

should I mist, maybe with some purified water, there's is still some water droplets on the surface of the substrate,about 3/4 inch of water pooling between the tub and the liner  at the bottom, but all condensation on the walls of the tub is 90% gone

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    #19369961 - 01/04/14 07:32 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

Try stuffing the holes tighter......to bottle in a tiny bit more heat.


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    #19369987 - 01/04/14 07:37 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

or make your room realllly cold lol(i'm kidding)


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: cronicr]
    #19370075 - 01/04/14 08:00 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

damn forgot the most important thing, to stuff the top holes with more polyfill

so you guys think moisture is ok and is only a matter of temperature differential or should I mist(I secretly wanna mist the shit out of the tub but not sure if it might fuck up things)




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    #19370097 - 01/04/14 08:04 PM (10 years, 26 days ago)

If there are tiny droplets on the surface do not mist.

Condensation is from a temperature differential and that is it.

It is in no way an indicator of having low or high humidity.


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: PussyFart]
    #19375853 - 01/06/14 05:10 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

massive side pinning , liner didn't stop it :sad:






was so happy yesterday when I saw a few pins up on top of the substrate, and when I look to the sides couldn't believe my eyes, there's like hundreds of pins on the sides,some of them large enough that prbly have been growing for 2 or 3 days now

Did I pick the wrong liner( clear /2 mil)? Where did I fucked up because this wasn't supposed to happen.

Any way I can salvage the situation, other than dumping the brick on a SGFC with bottom perlite cake style?

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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: loki44]
    #19376532 - 01/06/14 09:43 AM (10 years, 25 days ago)

i use to like cheap thin liners but i'm finding the thicker ones to do a better job lately


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    #19376811 - 01/06/14 11:08 AM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Did I pick the wrong liner( clear /2 mil)? Where did I fucked up because this wasn't supposed to happen.



Maybe water got between the plastic and the sub, which allowed air to get in.


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    #19378933 - 01/06/14 07:32 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Maybe water got between the plastic and the sub, which allowed air to get in.




that water shouldn't be reabsorbed by the sub? I measured the amount of standing water between the liner and the tub  and it was 6oz total

I removed the plastic and took this pic, you can see some side pinning along the creases created by the liner(red arrow) but other areas is totally random(yellow arrow):shrug:



brick is in SGFC top covered with bubble wrap, it looks huuuge in there

what worries me is the other 66qt tubs that are colonizing. I pretty much used the same liner so prbly is gonna happen the same thing, hope not


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    #19378943 - 01/06/14 07:33 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

the water will get absorbed back into the sub but will still leave a gap


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    #19378973 - 01/06/14 07:39 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

cronicr, how you avoid then that pesky water running between the sub and the liner?


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    #19379012 - 01/06/14 07:47 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

i only had the issue when i was using one type of garbage bag, i use some thick shit used for yard clean up now or bubble wrap and even then it happens from time to time:shrug:


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    #19379633 - 01/06/14 09:46 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

I guess I'll go to the hardware store to pick up the thickest liner I can find. I did a quick search and other people has have issues with this, so it's not only me.

You use bubble wrap? got any pic of a tub lined with it?


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    #19379660 - 01/06/14 09:51 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

no pic using a tub but yet, works fine the myc just weaves it's way through the bubble highway and grips the bubble wrap tight, never got any bottom pins ut of the 3 tubs i used it on:cool: i would have done it again this run but i didn't have enough left


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: cronicr]
    #19393824 - 01/09/14 01:58 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

uptade: all the pins survived the change of fruiting chamber, not one abort

pinset is a mess, clusters of different sizes of fruit bodies randomly around the size walls, up on top around a dozen pins max :rolleyes:

I'll post pics right before harvest(prbly be in a day or two)

pd. had 6 spawn jars left, so grabbed 3 and spawned to bulk with half a brick of coir on the vacant 27qt tub, dunked the grains, no liner this time

I'll see how that goes, so far 1 brick fuiting in the SGFC and 3 monos colonizing


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    #19393851 - 01/09/14 02:05 PM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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    #19404281 - 01/11/14 03:05 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

welp

first flush
206.7 grams wet

brick slipped out of the rack as I was taking it out of the sgfc to harvest and broke in 3 pieces :crazy:

I harvested a lot of small pins with potential for grow, since I didn't know if the brick need to be tossed or not



here is how it looks after harvested and put back on sgfc



you guys think I can get a second flush from this mess or contams will move in soon?

first flush was very underwhelming also, my last pf tek with similiar amount of spawn I got out 3 times more weight, so that's that


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    #19404362 - 01/11/14 03:27 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

There is no telling when a contam can pop up but, there is no reason you cant get a second flush. I have busted subs just like you did and still got multiple flushes afterwards.


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    #19404441 - 01/11/14 03:51 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

slatting is counterproductive.
and is that really dry or just the lighting of the pic?
otherwise, cracked subs work well. the crack often creates a good microclimate and gets lots of pins.


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welp

first flush
206.7 grams wet

brick slipped out of the rack as I was taking it out of the sgfc to harvest and broke in 3 pieces :crazy:

I harvested a lot of small pins with potential for grow, since I didn't know if the brick need to be tossed or not



here is how it looks after harvested and put back on sgfc



you guys think I can get a second flush from this mess or contams will move in soon?

first flush was very underwhelming also, my last pf tek with similiar amount of spawn I got out 3 times more weight, so that's that



You should soak you bulk sub.............then you will get a much better second flush!! :themoreyouknow:


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: mudbutt]
    #19404489 - 01/11/14 04:02 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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You should soak you bulk sub.............then you will get a much better second flush!! :themoreyouknow:




how do I dunk with the brick fractured in 3 pieces?


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    #19404806 - 01/11/14 05:06 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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how do I dunk with the brick fractured in 3 pieces?




Just use a big tub...    :sun:


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: Matty_Rulez]
    #19405807 - 01/11/14 08:58 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

^^^
the structural integrity of the brick is compromised, if I try to sink it, will prbly fall completely apart.

I was hoping for input from someone who has dunked a fractured brick before...:shrug:


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    #19406042 - 01/11/14 10:08 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

I usually don't dunk a bulk sub till after the third flush. Usually a heavy misting would suffice :shrug:


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    #19406129 - 01/11/14 10:39 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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I usually don't dunk a bulk sub till after the third flush. Usually a heavy misting would suffice :shrug:



:whathesaid:mist the fuck out of it


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    #19406201 - 01/11/14 10:56 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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I usually don't dunk a bulk sub till after the third flush. Usually a heavy misting would suffice :shrug:



:whathesaid:mist the fuck out of it



This.  :thumbup:

Mist that shit like the amazon rainforest.


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    #19406274 - 01/11/14 11:19 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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I usually don't dunk a bulk sub till after the third flush. Usually a heavy misting would suffice :shrug:




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    #19407044 - 01/12/14 06:08 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

Mist,mist, mist


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    #19412877 - 01/13/14 03:20 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

brick is pinning again! no sight of contams :thumbup:

when you guys say mist heavy , is a one time thing, one/day, 3/day or any other pattern?

btw my sgfc out of the blue hit the floor again(without being touched),and the brick fractured even further, crazy I never had any problems like that before...ghosts!:tongue2:


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brick is pinning again! no sight of contams :thumbup:

when you guys say mist heavy , is a one time thing, one/day, 3/day or any other pattern?

btw my sgfc out of the blue hit the floor again(without being touched),and the brick fractured even further, crazy I never had any problems like that before...ghosts!:tongue2:




i usually do it so i dont get standing water for an extended period of time, so misting heavily for 2-3 days is good, also depending on your first flush if it was huge just remember those fruits are roughly 90% water that your sub lost


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    #19413111 - 01/13/14 04:12 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

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i usually do it so i dont get standing water for an extended period of time, so misting heavily for 2-3 days is good, also depending on your first flush if it was huge just remember those fruits are roughly 90% water that your sub lost




I don't understand , you say you mist heavy so you don't get standing water?

isn't more water increases the chances of standing water?

on those 3 days how many times/day you mist?


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    #19413630 - 01/13/14 06:10 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

a little standing water just not so much that cant evaporate in 24hrs, some wil soak in as well


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Re: first bulk grow, 27 qt monotub PICS [Re: twistedty]
    #19414830 - 01/13/14 10:20 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

got it, I think I'm gonna take my sweet time with this flush, just harvesting the fruits as they reach maturity, not one sweep harvest like I did last time


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    #19445021 - 01/19/14 10:29 PM (10 years, 11 days ago)

update PIC



I collected the first grown fruits from second flush

but I'm puzzled about the morphology of this variety, they all have small caps, and they don't open like all normal cubes, resembling penis envis maybe? These are supposed to be "pink buffalo" or whatever so that's that...they don't drop spores massive amounts of spores either, caps remained sort of closed even after veil brakes, they also bruise more when handled

I've never grown penis envy so that's why I'm asking if you guys see any similarity, for those who have grown that particular variety


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