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Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says
    #19288816 - 12/17/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Abstract: Cannabis use is associated with working memory (WM) impairments; however, the relationship between cannabis use and WM neural circuitry is unclear. We examined whether a cannabis use disorder (CUD) was associated with differences in brain morphology between control subjects with and without a CUD and between schizophrenia subjects with and without a CUD, and whether these differences related to WM and CUD history. Subjects group-matched on demographics included 44 healthy controls, 10 subjects with a CUD history, 28 schizophrenia subjects with no history of substance use disorders, and 15 schizophrenia subjects with a CUD history. Large-deformation high-dimensional brain mapping with magnetic resonance imaging was used to obtain surface-based representations of the striatum, globus pallidus, and thalamus, compared across groups, and correlated with WM and CUD history. Surface maps were generated to visualize morphological differences. There were significant cannabis-related parametric decreases in WM across groups. Similar cannabis-related shape differences were observed in the striatum, globus pallidus, and thalamus in controls and schizophrenia subjects. Cannabis-related striatal and thalamic shape differences correlated with poorer WM and younger age of CUD onset in both groups. Schizophrenia subjects demonstrated cannabis-related neuroanatomical differences that were consistent and exaggerated compared with cannabis-related differences found in controls. The cross-sectional results suggest that both CUD groups were characterized by WM deficits and subcortical neuroanatomical differences. Future longitudinal studies could help determine whether cannabis use contributes to these observed shape differences or whether they are biomarkers of a vulnerability to the effects of cannabis that predate its misuse.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: DivineIntensity]
    #19288864 - 12/17/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think this is already posted in the news forum. 
basically everything causes detrimental effects according to these peipl


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: indocult]
    #19288874 - 12/17/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

"Cannabis use disorder" is a pretty vague term. Do I have a CUD because I smoke a bowl or two a day, same as the guy who intentionally coughs so hard on the dabs he smokes every morning that he pukes because it allegedly gets him higher?


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: DivineIntensity] * 2
    #19288884 - 12/17/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Heavy marijuana use can cause poor memory?

No fucking way.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19288886 - 12/17/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Heavy marijuana use can cause poor memory?

No fucking way.




Wait what are we talking about?


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: indocult]
    #19288901 - 12/17/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: XUL] * 1
    #19288913 - 12/17/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:bouncysmoke:
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Heavy marijuana use can cause poor memory?

No fucking way.




Wait what are we talking about?



I don't even remember, man.

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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19288918 - 12/17/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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"Cannabis use disorder" is a pretty vague term. Do I have a CUD because I smoke a bowl or two a day, same as the guy who intentionally coughs so hard on the dabs he smokes every morning that he pukes because it allegedly gets him higher?




That actually does get you higher, if I'm not mistaken when you cough it causes your alveoli to open up which allows for more absorption. That's why when you take a huge hit and you almost pass out from coughing you get extremely high, most people think It's oxygen deprivation that causes that but it's not.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19288925 - 12/17/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The participants in the study smoked almost daily for three years if I'm not mistaken, at the end of the study they had not ingested cannabis for the higher end of 6 months. Yet they showed no alleviation in their symptoms, which may point to permanent memory impairment.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: DivineIntensity]
    #19288972 - 12/17/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

have you heard of neuroplasticity?

what were the participants in the study doing during those 6 months? sitting on the couch? playing video games? working menial jobs?

or were they studying math? building robots? doing lumosity exercises?


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: Envix]
    #19288994 - 12/17/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah highscool especially public grooms kids to be complete fuck ups

also

if they were provided weed this study would hold ground

but even then they'd probably be smoking some pesticide or someshit


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: Envix]
    #19288998 - 12/17/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I could of swore I saw somewhere today that the test was only done on ten people or something ridiculous like that so basically from a scientific standpoint a crock of shit.

I went to go look for it, but got stoned and forget what the hell I was looking for. :bongload:


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: JonnyBtreed]
    #19289038 - 12/17/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I could of swore I saw somewhere today that the test was only done on ten people or something ridiculous like that so basically from a scientific standpoint a crock of shit.




More common than not.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: DivineIntensity] * 3
    #19289083 - 12/17/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

To all the underage users reading this:

Stop smoking weed.  Drugs are for adults.

Your brain is still developing.  Specifically, the part of the brain that makes you who are are.  Importantly, the part of the brain that makes you make good posts.

Smoking weed from your teens into adulthood will reduce activity in your prefrontal cortex.

tl;dr:  bad

Go outside instead.  Hike around.  There's a lot of cool stuff.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: Set]
    #19289088 - 12/17/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Set said:
To all the underage users reading this:

Stop smoking weed.  Drugs are for adults.

Your brain is still developing.  Specifically, the part of the brain that makes you who are are.  Importantly, the part of the brain that makes you make good posts.

Smoking weed from your teens into adulthood will reduce activity in your prefrontal cortex.

tl;dr:  bad

Go outside instead.  Hike around.  There's a lot of cool stuff.



But... but.. going outside and hiking around is so much better stoned :vaped:


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: The_Ghost]
    #19289103 - 12/17/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: Set] * 1
    #19289117 - 12/17/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Habitual marijuana use can definitely have detrimental effects on a developing brain, I have experienced this first hand.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19289136 - 12/17/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Habitual marijuana use can definitely have detrimental effects on a developing brain, I have experienced this first hand.



Indeed. There was no stopping me at 16 tho. School drug education was a total joke and i sincerely  believed weed was the only reason i graduated at all and didn't go on a murderous rampage instead.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19289149 - 12/17/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I just thought that, since I'm getting older, it was due to normal aging.  Oh well, I forgot what else I had to say.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: The_Ghost]
    #19289177 - 12/17/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Habitual marijuana use can definitely have detrimental effects on a developing brain, I have experienced this first hand.



Indeed. There was no stopping me at 16 tho. School drug education was a total joke and i sincerely  believed weed was the only reason i graduated at all and didn't go on a murderous rampage instead.



Yeah, they blanketed all drugs as being bad all the time, so I didn't listen to a word they said.

Maybe if they were a little more truthful about drugs I would've actually listened.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19289185 - 12/17/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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mjmihalov said:
Habitual marijuana use can definitely have detrimental effects on a developing brain, I have experienced this first hand.



Indeed. There was no stopping me at 16 tho. School drug education was a total joke and i sincerely  believed weed was the only reason i graduated at all and didn't go on a murderous rampage instead.



Yeah, they blanketed all drugs as being bad all the time, so I didn't listen to a word they said.

Maybe if they were a little more truthful about drugs I would've actually listened.



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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: JonnyBtreed]
    #19289231 - 12/17/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I could of swore I saw somewhere today that the test was only done on ten people or something ridiculous like that so basically from a scientific standpoint a crock of shit.

I went to go look for it, but got stoned and forget what the hell I was looking for. :bongload:




Did you even read the abstract I provided?


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: DivineIntensity]
    #19289260 - 12/17/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Glad I didn't smoke till 19 but I don't think it makes a big difference. Look at all the superstars in business, academia, and the arts/entertainment industry who were teenage tokers! :psychsplit:


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: st1llnox]
    #19289273 - 12/17/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They, like, had an in, man.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: Set]
    #19289499 - 12/17/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know how you expereince this damage firsthand like someone mentioned..

it seems like if your brain was damage you would be oblivious, I may be wrong, but ... like... wait what was i sayin?


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: DivineIntensity]
    #19289519 - 12/17/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I could of swore I saw somewhere today that the test was only done on ten people or something ridiculous like that so basically from a scientific standpoint a crock of shit.

I went to go look for it, but got stoned and forget what the hell I was looking for. :bongload:




Did you even read the abstract I provided?




Nope, sorry. Saw the title and my eyes hurt looking at the block of text, lol.

Yeah such a small amount of people from each category is hardly a broad enough group of people to get definitive results.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: indocult]
    #19289539 - 12/17/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't know how you expereince this damage firsthand like someone mentioned..

it seems like if your brain was damage you would be oblivious, I may be wrong, but ... like... wait what was i sayin?



I smoked nearly every day from the time I was like 11 'til I was 19.

It definitely affected me a lot. Idk if you would really call it brain damage, but it did change how my brain worked.

It took 2 years of taking breaks and only smoking occasionally to get back to what I feel is baseline.

It mainly affected my emotions though.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19289624 - 12/17/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Emotions for better or worse, or one then the other?


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: DivineIntensity]
    #19289626 - 12/17/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Everything in moderation. Don't need a study.


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    #19289638 - 12/17/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Everything in moderation. Don't need a study.




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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #19289699 - 12/17/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Everything in moderation for sure. But, i think it's hard to tell how much MJ is too much.

It's so easy to be a functional pothead that IDK how to find my healthy amount of marijuana. Something that gives you enjoyment while letting you get your shit done (most of the time, at least if you actually try) and is basically impossible to OD with. It makes music and comedy 20x better why would you not want to be high everyday :crankey: + for me, my social anxiety has improved significantly since I've started smoking, due to many factors but I'm sure MJ has a hand in that.

I have noticed a drop in my memory though, but then i smoke another bowl and forget that I was worrying about my usage :wink: I need to take a long break so I can evaluate it all with a clear head, but all of my close friends smoke so i can't really escape it without hiding in my room.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: dontknow]
    #19289705 - 12/17/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it's awful we even have to say "SO DON'T SMOKE AK-47!"


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: st1llnox]
    #19289768 - 12/17/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Emotions for better or worse, or one then the other?



I'm not really sure...

It was like when I smoked I was emotional, not really in a bad way though. I actually felt things, like I cried when something was sad, laughed when something was funny, had all the normal emotions you know, they were just really strong/intensified. I liked it though.

But what I didn't like is when I stopped smoking, I was almost void of any emotion, I hated it. I couldn't really feel things. That lasted through months of abstinence, then a year+ of occasional smoking, when I did smoke I could feel emotions, but when I didn't smoke in a few days I couldn't.

Finally I am starting to have a little bit of emotions, but they're not nearly as strong as I'd like.

That's not the only problem I encountered, but that is one of the main ones.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19289792 - 12/17/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Not trying to flame or anything, but were you neglected/abused growing up? I don't think marijuana would cause you to have a complete lack of emotion. Unless I am far underestimating the effects on a growing kid. This just seems like an issue where something else is at play, and the herb is a scapegoat of sorts that your mind has focused on.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: dontknow]
    #19289815 - 12/17/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Not trying to flame or anything, but were you neglected/abused growing up? I don't think marijuana would cause you to have a complete lack of emotion. Unless I am far underestimating the effects on a growing kid. This just seems like an issue where something else is at play, and the herb is a scapegoat of sorts that your mind has focused on.



Lol, no.

It is definitely correlated to marijuana, I can tell by how I feel being proportional to how long it's been since I've smoked marijuana.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19289827 - 12/17/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's interesting. Maybe it messed with the reward center of your brain a ton during development. IDK I am certainly not a scientist.

At least you're starting to feel a bit better now


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: dontknow]
    #19289853 - 12/17/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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That's interesting. Maybe it messed with the reward center of your brain a ton during development. IDK I am certainly not a scientist.

At least you're starting to feel a bit better now



Yeah, to be fair it was more my fault than marijuana's fault.

I abused it for an extended period of time, I mean what can you really expect.

I was spending more money on weed than most heroin addicts spend on heroin there for a while.

My life revolved around marijuana for a very very long time.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19290660 - 12/17/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would say it probably had a lot too do with your diet.
did you have a hobby? A productive one anywayz, video games don't count.

Did you do other drugs? 

I ask because I'm 23 and been smoking for 12 years and I have experienced none of that

I have abstained for 6+ months and felt totally normal after 3-5 days
with good diet and exercise. .
If I eat junk food I feel lethargic and unimterested in life.


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Re: Heavy marijuana use may cause poor memory and abnormal brain structure, study says [Re: DivineIntensity]
    #19290704 - 12/17/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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