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Does harmaline not get you high?
#19288503 - 12/17/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've read that it does, but then I read here recently that DMT is the active part of the ayahuasca brew. I'd like to try harmaline and DMT separate from each other.
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: sunshine]
#19288557 - 12/17/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Harmaline does get you high, you just need to do it correctly.
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
#19288636 - 12/17/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah it does but it's not very intense I think. Could be wrong. Definitely does something though.
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: Aopocetx]
#19288678 - 12/17/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Harmalas are definitely psychedelic on their own. With a high enough dose, tracers will follow every movement of the eye and random visions can be seen on the back of the eyelid. These visuals are accompanied by a mellow, almost sedating sensation through my body and mind. For me, those high doses (350mg+ of freebase alkaloids extracted from Syrian Rue) usually cause too much bodily discomfort at around t+150 minutes.
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: Maito]
#19288723 - 12/17/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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In combination with DMT, it has synergistic properties. At very high doses it can be psychedelic by itself but at high doses it can also be very dangerous especially mixed with any other drugs besides DMT. Considering your other thread, I'd be wary of you taking it.
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: Maito]
#19288732 - 12/17/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maito said: Harmalas are definitely psychedelic on their own. With a high enough dose, tracers will follow every movement of the eye and random visions can be seen on the back of the eyelid. These visuals are accompanied by a mellow, almost sedating sensation through my body and mind. For me, those high doses (350mg+ of freebase alkaloids extracted from Syrian Rue) usually cause too much bodily discomfort at around t+150 minutes.
What's the strongest experience you've had on it? What did you see?
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: Aopocetx]
#19289451 - 12/17/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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With open eyes, intense tracers that made my world look akin to a smeared Van Gogh painting. And with my eyes closed, random visions; faces, eyes, buildings, landscapes. They would appear out of nowhere and fade into something else before I got a chance to really focus on what was there in my mind's eye. The visuals are definitely not the highlight of the experience, though. Harmalas invoke an extreme sense of contentment and well-being. It's as though the alkaloids cleanse my physical as well as my spiritual form leaving me with a positive afterglow that can last for days.
edit: This is with the dosage I stated earlier, 350mg+, never exceeding 500mg due to the level of discomfort that comes to me with such high doses.
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Edited by Maito (12/17/13 04:45 PM)
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: Maito]
#19289516 - 12/17/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Interesting. So what is the discomfort like?
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: Maito]
#19290207 - 12/17/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maito said: Harmalas are definitely psychedelic on their own. With a high enough dose, tracers will follow every movement of the eye and random visions can be seen on the back of the eyelid. These visuals are accompanied by a mellow, almost sedating sensation through my body and mind.....
....With open eyes, intense tracers that made my world look akin to a smeared Van Gogh painting. And with my eyes closed, random visions; faces, eyes, buildings, landscapes. They would appear out of nowhere and fade into something else before I got a chance to really focus on what was there in my mind's eye.
I can relate to that with my experience with the harmalas.
I become enveloped in a very calm and tranquil head space, and like you said, it's almost sedating. Somewhat "dreamy". Provides a great head space for meditation.
As for the visual aspect...With eyes open, colors become a little brighter and have more contrast. My vision becomes somewhat more crisp and sharp, but at the same time there will be mild pastel-like smears/tracers if in motion.
Eyes closed...Similar to hypnagogic visuals, but more pronounced and vibrant, still relatively mild as far as "psychedelics" go. A constant flux of landscapes, faces, random objects, various flashes of colors & patterns & textures.
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....The visuals are definitely not the highlight of the experience, though. Harmalas invoke an extreme sense of contentment and well-being. It's as though the alkaloids cleanse my physical as well as my spiritual form leaving me with a positive afterglow that can last for days
I concur ....I noticed a lift in spirits, a clarity of mind/cognition, my dreams were more vibrant and immersive, and over all it left me with a general sense of well being. It felt very "balancing".
I wouldn't quite call what the harmalas provide a "high"....
I was working with the harmalas, with syrian rue, about a year ago. Taken alone, as well as in combination with dmt or mushrooms, and with cannabis. When I had them in my system, I felt absolutely "primed" for dmt or mushrooms. It was a particular feeling, I could just feel as if the smallest bit of either of those in my system would have me way "out there" and for quite some time. It also provided a nice head space to go into a trip with, already being "off baseline", in a semi-psychedelic yet tranquil head space,...takes any pre-trip jitters and smooths them out.
And now, I almost don't want to take dmt or mushrooms with out a plant that contains harmala alkaloids. It brings out an incredible layer/aspect that isn't there otherwise, the epitome of synergy. Makes the experience much "richer" and with more "depth". It really gets all up in there .
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: openmind]
#19290448 - 12/17/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Been interested in the effects of MAOI's alone for a while now. Thanks for the firsthand accounts guys!
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: Joker Flash]
#19290751 - 12/17/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hamarlines balance your brain chemicals out to a more natural state hence the balanced feeling.
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: GreySatyr]
#19291983 - 12/18/13 06:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So has anyone combined it with acid? I'm pretty sure it would intensify that as well but I could be wrong.
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: Aopocetx]
#19292071 - 12/18/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It would, it will intensify anything but most things are dangerous in combination.
LSD isn't dangerous with it but mescaline in. So are cigarettes and caffeine.
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Re: Does harmaline not get you high? [Re: GreySatyr]
#19292106 - 12/18/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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GreyMorph said: It would, it will intensify anything but most things are dangerous in combination.
LSD isn't dangerous with it but mescaline in. So are cigarettes and caffeine.
Really? You can't smoke cigarettes on harmala?
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