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InvisibleRaven Gnosis
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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: hTx]
    #19287069 - 12/17/13 04:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The strangest thing about love to me is what I experienced after the end of my last relationship...
I never fell out of love... Due to my realization that it all came from myself to begin with... In the right state, I can access the very feelings I had for her, non-attached to my experiences with her and draw on that euphoria and use that to have more empathy and compassion for myself and others...
That's all fine and dandy and liberating/enlightening...
But...
What I miss the most...
Is the sex.
Go figure? :shrug: :lol:

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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: quinn]
    #19287074 - 12/17/13 04:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

An autistic  cuddly bear. :nicesmile:


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #19287076 - 12/17/13 04:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Raven Gnosis said:
The strangest thing about love to me is what I experienced after the end of my last relationship...
I never fell out of love... Due to my realization that it all came from myself to begin with... In the right state, I can access the very feelings I had for her, non-attached to my experiences with her and draw on that euphoria and use that to have more empathy and compassion for myself and others...
That's all fine and dandy and liberating/enlightening...
But...
What I miss the most...
Is the sex.
Go figure? :shrug: :lol:

:monkeydance:





Ask yourself this.  Were it not for the sex and physical attraction would you ever share your life with any woman on the levels we do?  If you are honest with your answer you'll wonder where the love enters into the equation.

If you're like me you'll maintain your own life and then really like some women enough to be good friends. Course I'm old. :lol:


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: Icelander]
    #19287077 - 12/17/13 04:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Physics tells us EVERYTHING's an illusion.
Are we even here to love something that might not be here either? :eek:

BTW Louis Lamour is the SHIT


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: hTx]
    #19287102 - 12/17/13 04:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Love might often be temporary, that doesn't mean it's always an illusion.

God damn, I thought I was cynical but then there's you lot.

Real cheery bunch, aren't you?


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19287118 - 12/17/13 04:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:

in time my child :evil2:


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19287129 - 12/17/13 04:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Into The Woods said:
Love might often be temporary, that doesn't mean it's always an illusion.

God damn, I thought I was cynical but then there's you lot.

Real cheery bunch, aren't you?





Of course it's an illusion. :lol:


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: Icelander]
    #19287131 - 12/17/13 04:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

all cuddly bears are autistic that's why they're so dysfunctional at being bears :nicekitty:


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: quinn]
    #19287460 - 12/17/13 07:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

oh


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: hTx]
    #19287581 - 12/17/13 08:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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yea pain is an illusion made from electrical signals in your brain that something is wrong.

love is something that's right
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feel me?




:orry:

That's a weird logic ya got there

You mean to say that if an experience arises from a set of signals in reaction to certain stimuli- that that is an illusion? :what:

I think you need to define your definition of illusion a little better, because the way I got that just now- it's way too loose and superficial, imo.

I'm not here to discuss what love is, because I have no idea. I'm just going with it :shrug:

But I'm interested in the 'illusion' part :lol:


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: Icelander]
    #19287607 - 12/17/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Quote:

Into The Woods said:
Love might often be temporary, that doesn't mean it's always an illusion.

God damn, I thought I was cynical but then there's you lot.

Real cheery bunch, aren't you?





Of course it's an illusion. :lol:




My love is real :crankey:


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19287719 - 12/17/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

link?


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: Icelander]
    #19287774 - 12/17/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

LOL


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19288180 - 12/17/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

how do you describe pain? it hurts?

it stings? its bad?

emotional pain? ouch?
some people are born without any concept or feeling for pain at all. its a subjective, albeit useful illusion..many times pain can be worse or less just by thought alone thus an illusion.

the same with love, specifically. romance.

love at first sight?! of the car..house..bank account..
personality..
change one of those and byebye love.


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: hTx]
    #19288371 - 12/17/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

how
do you define real? if it you define it as what you can feel, see, touch...than real is simply electric signals interepeted by the brain.

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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: hTx]
    #19288382 - 12/17/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There is difference between falling in love, and true love..


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: hTx]
    #19288394 - 12/17/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Will you please start by defining the word "illusion" as you use it in this discussion's context? :rolleyes:


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: Icyus]
    #19288447 - 12/17/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree, but how would you know for sure if it was real or a veil, able to be seen through?

there are probably multiple things about a single something, some event that are all true and contradictory at the same time..and seen through perhaps many perspectives as one we approximate closer to what is.

but unconditional love, for a few obvious reasons, is hard to maintain..and if it isn't permanent, if it cannot be maintained than it to is aactually conditional.

only permanent change on an up to unconscious. level towards unconditional love would actually be unconditional love. 
illusion being a facade, false, whether believing. it or living it.

your current perception,  for instance,  is an illusion. a low dose of sillycybin would show you that mush.


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: hTx]
    #19288466 - 12/17/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Still waiting on that definition for illusion...

:waitingpatiently:

Or are you reluctant to answer me because you know that all your neat sophistry is held together by the ambiguousness of said concept? :shrug:


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Re: Love is an Illusion [Re: MotherNaturesSon]
    #19288512 - 12/17/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Still waiting on that definition for illusion...

:waitingpatiently:

Or are you reluctant to answer me because you know that all your neat sophistry is held together by the ambiguousness of said concept? :shrug:



you will just ignore certain information impose your own and define it yourself anyways.

:wink:

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