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Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant....
    #19287976 - 12/17/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So, pretty much. Im trying to get rid of all my current projects for a fresh start in the new year with some edibles and what not. So what i did was take a brick of coir, put it in a USED large myco bag, added 4.5qts of water, and 2qts of vermiculite. I let it hydrate in the bag, then moved it to the tub once hydrated, mixed it all up in the tub, then added the 8 quart jars i had done a gtg on a few weeks ago.
So pretty much, no pasteurization, no cleaning on the tub, gtg spawn, barehands. Lets just say it was not ideal, and i dont encourage anyone to do this. i was just trying to get all my shit out of the area so i can start fresh, i was honestly hoping for this to contaminate.

anyway, here is the results, so far. hopefully im not jinxing it.




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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: fractaldill]
    #19288000 - 12/17/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yea thats normal... but dont get too excited because ull prolly see a contam before 2nd flush.


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: silverstem]
    #19288004 - 12/17/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

no problem haha.


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: fractaldill]
    #19288750 - 12/17/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Looks good man! :elmo:


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: SynKyd]
    #19288898 - 12/17/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you did that in my house you'd create a human sized sentient demon made entirely out of Trich.


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: gornyhuy]
    #19290348 - 12/17/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i honestly dont think it would...


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: fractaldill]
    #19290464 - 12/17/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

One of the main reasons to pasturize is it makes it easier for myc to digest


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: cronicr]
    #19290509 - 12/17/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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One of the main reasons to pasturize is it makes it easier for myc to digest




QFT, best reason to pasteurize/sterilize coir, the myc likes a cooked meal

Coir is so contam resistant that I'm almost ready to say that anyone who see's a contam before the second flush should just blame the spawn. Here is an example of why I say this. About 20 months ago I was doing the ol bucket tek. After mixing up my tub I ended up with a handful left over. I decided that rather than toss it in the mix, I would put it in a ziplock bag "just in case" :lol: I never had a just in case moment and this bag of coir floated around the house, from one room to the next.

That bag of bucket tek coir, which I exposed to open air, handled with my bare hands and that was sealed in a ziplock bag for almost 2 years, still has not contamed. No bacteria, no mold. I'm even thinking about tossing it into a tub just for the hell of it. Maybe on its two year birthday :lmafo:


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: cronicr]
    #19290710 - 12/17/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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One of the main reasons to pasturize is it makes it easier for myc to digest



weird, this tub is one the fastest ive ever had. :p


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: fractaldill]
    #19290725 - 12/17/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Because its not digesting it as well


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: cronicr]
    #19290729 - 12/17/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Because its not digesting it as well



Quote:

cronicr said:
Because its not digesting it as well




isnt that a little counter intuitive?


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: fractaldill]
    #19290754 - 12/17/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It will work fine no worries.ill exlain a little more when i get to my comp


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: cronicr]
    #19290764 - 12/17/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

is there an app or something? lol


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: fractaldill]
    #19290770 - 12/17/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

No i just hate my phone lol


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: cronicr]
    #19290795 - 12/17/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The jists of it just picture cubes colonizing wood it rips right threw it because its not breaking it down as it goes


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: cronicr]
    #19290814 - 12/17/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So, i should expect a low yield from this? or just let it "consolidate"


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: fractaldill]
    #19290829 - 12/17/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You should do fine. Coir isnt your main nute source anyway


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19291029 - 12/17/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm almost ready to say that anyone who see's a contam before the second flush should just blame the spawn.



I'd say it.  I hydrate large blocks ahead of time and then cook it before use.  It's sat a month wet before, just fine.
Only time I've had a coir contam was due to coffee cross contamination giving a starting point.
Coir might be nutrients but it's rough germination grounds.


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19291491 - 12/18/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm even thinking about tossing it into a tub just for the hell of it. Maybe on its two year birthday :lmafo:




ha, you should.  would like to see the results. 

stygianknight, have you used coir sitting for a month without rehydrating?  I have 5 quarts that have been sitting for almost a week (foil instead of the normal lid still, but locked down with the ring so I imagine its rather air-tight) and honestly I might re-pastuerize just be safe, but wondering if I should dump em out and check field capacity/rehydrate too, or if that would just be a waste of effort...


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: westthebest]
    #19294301 - 12/18/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yep.  The top layer can be slightly dry but a mix in is all that's needed.


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Re: Coir... Pretty damn contamination resistant.... [Re: StygianKnight]
    #19294426 - 12/18/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Yep.  The top layer can be slightly dry but a mix in is all that's needed.



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