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A-strain on newspaper.
#19287974 - 12/17/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I decided to give this it's own thread, it's taking to much room in my other one. I had a spawn bag colonizing with A-strain and it stopped at 15% while my other bags were at 60%, pretty sure it had bacteria spots, so I cut the bag open in another room and saved about 3gs and put them in a container the size of a cup that I had filled with newspaper balls and tiny strips, the reason I rolled the newspaper into balls before soaking is so the mycelium will have tiny passages making it easier to get around.
I put the 3gs of mycelium in the container on 12/14/13
Here it is on 12/16/13

Heres 12/17/13

Sorry for the side ways pictures 
Heres 12/18/13


Heres 12-20-13

Heres 12/22/13


I looked at the contaminated bag I saved this mycelium from and there was some more mycelium that didn't give up and grew a bit more, so I saved some more and then put the bag back, knowing the bacteria would have the whole bag soon I got every bit of mycelium I could and made two more.

I didn't have a lid for this one, but this works.


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: bulsie]
#19288387 - 12/17/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's growing so fast on the newspaper,
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
#19293722 - 12/18/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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pretty happy, 
any thoughts on how to fruit this? no SGFC or bulk, it needs to be in that container just the newspaper, it's part of my study.
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 that was grass clippings/ black berry bush
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
#19293929 - 12/18/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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just get a plastic bag?
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Just straight non-pasteurized newspaper....?
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: Jassassin]
#19302912 - 12/20/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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yep, just clean/new newspaper, soaked in hot water and put in the microwave for 1min to boil the water/newspaper a little.
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Oh nice. I hope that works out for you. I'll be keeping an eye on this one. Let us know how fruiting this goes!
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Subscribing to see if that turns out to be mushroom mycelium...
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pretty sure it is man, If you read the whole thing, you'll see I transferred 3 grams of P.cubensis mycelium to the newspaper.
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GoldenArrow said: Subscribing to see if that turns out to be mushroom mycelium...
Between the fact that he said he put P.C. Myc in the newspaper and the excellent rhizo growth in picture 2 of update 12/18, I think it's safe to say it's not only mushroom myc, but cubensis at that.
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: Camtaro420]
#19303218 - 12/20/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know what he said he did, I'll be highly surprised if it works though. it does indeed look like there's some myc in there but it's a questionable tek and the whites spreading too fast IMO.... I'll be impressed if it fruits before turning green though!
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I have a main grow going on, the cup idea were just a experiment, if they work I'll be happy, if they don't I won't really care, the contaminated bag I got the mycelium from was replaced.
So I've opened the lid maybe 3 times since the I transferred, there little white pearly dots on the stronger side of the container where the mycelium colonized first, when I look closely at them there not fuzzy, like the mycelium surrounding it, there more just solid looking, could these be knots?
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very interesting i will have to give this a try.
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It's nice to watch, really helped me understand mycelium
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So there's a transparent/white fuzz on the mycelium, it doesn't smell weird, am what I'm seeing cobweb or just mycelium trying to get fluffier, I tried to take a picture but it's almost invisible.
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TeaSippinHippie said: I have a main grow going on, the cup idea were just a experiment, if they work I'll be happy, if they don't I won't really care, the contaminated bag I got the mycelium from was replaced.
So I've opened the lid maybe 3 times since the I transferred, there little white pearly dots on the stronger side of the container where the mycelium colonized first, when I look closely at them there not fuzzy, like the mycelium surrounding it, there more just solid looking, could these be knots?
I saw the other thread, hope something works out and you get a decent haul! This is like one of those experiments that I'd try as a 'fuck it' experiment, but you never know what might work!
I'm putting a bet based on the above couple of posts that there's a bit of myc mixed with trich and it'll go green soon though
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pretty sure it's not trich, trich is gunky white looking, the pearly white dots I was seeing were just aggressing strands of mycelium coming up from the bottom, and the fuzzy white stuff is like a paper thin layer of polyfil.
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hmm maybe cobweb then....either way, chance of fruits is low IMO!
How did you even get the mycelium in there? (i.e how sterile was that procedure)
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as sterile as you can get without a SAB
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The white fuzz im seeing is very similar to new mycelium growth, can new mycelium begin to grow over some other mycelium?
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Sounds like it contammed . is any growth super dense/not fuzzy or ropey ?
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: indocult]
#19309879 - 12/21/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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what you got going on for gas exchange? sorry if you said something about it already....i'm really high right now
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
#19311405 - 12/22/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's no trich, and it really doesn't look like cobweb, more like new mycelium that never finished, and I have two square holes with micropore tape over them.
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I'd really like to know what knots look like at a early stage, I put the container in fruiting conditions, do the tiny white dots forming on the mycelium look like knots? (lower center)


that big dot that formed in the last picture, it would be cool if it was a pin.
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: Josh.0]
#19321423 - 12/24/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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whats the average time for knott to pin?
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Different for different situations..
Variety, fruiting conditions, genetics, etc...
Has been ~ 4-14 days IME.
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ima hope for 2-6 days, this mycelium is very fast for a MS.
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knots?
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Yes IMO, looks like I'll be wrong!
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I've had many cardboard projects pin but nuthing spectacular, hope this goes good hippie
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Thanks man, seeing these knots made my Christmas pretty great.
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not by to much, one cup did get pin mold,  and I hope these are future pins, THERE EVERYWHERE. I expected maybe 2 or 3 not over 25+ knots
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I'm interested in seeing your results. I recently watched Radical Mycology's video 'Growing mushrooms on newspaper' series of videos (4, on YouTube) from their 2012 Convergence. The demonstrator explains that there is no need for pasteurizing straight newspaper. He used the clean myc inside an old straw block of Pink Oysters to spawn the hydrated and strained shredded newspaper. He explained that you don't want your substrate to be too thick, otherwise the center will become anaerobic. I have a straw block of Pinks that have fruited 3 times that I'm going to spawn some newspaper with today. If it works good I'll tell my buddy to try spawning newspaper with some Alleni woodchip spawn.
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: ghiajake]
#19332787 - 12/27/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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more and more of the little dots keep popping up, none of them are doing anything though
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I bet you will wake up tmr or the next day to some pins!
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: indocult]
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
#19333591 - 12/27/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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none of them are getting bigger then the size of the tip of a pen.
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yeah that was basically my experience
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
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Interesting... Lack of nutrition compared to how much energy spent?
What ratio did you use in your experiment Cronicr?
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if it doesn't fruit ill make tea with it, mmmm paper flavor tea
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What ratio did you use in your experiment Cronicr?
i just chucked a grain on cardboard and basicly forgot about it, a couple weeks later i seen primodora all over it but they never really developed i seen veda sticks grow on news paper but he used cakes i believe so he had alot more nutrition in his sub
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
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I've become fairly positive that is because Cubensis (and perhaps others, but my observations are of Cubensis) really prefers to pin away from nutritional sources wherever possible. Culture expanded over very little nutrition cannot do the job of eating so is delegated to the job of fruiting.
However without a grain nutrition source ("spawn") there is no part of the culture on any noteworthy nutritive resources... so those pin sites never get to become anything more than potentials.
We can easily get fruits to grow from things with No nutrition. Vermiculite is a prime example and most if not all other bulk substrates aren't far from it. Many of my recent culture tests were done with "invitro" straight grains, and I found that All of them had more pins grow from rhizos on the bare plastic than on the super-nutritious rice. My pompom tek grows have confirmed this, as over 90% of the fruits grow from nylon scrubbies where the mycelium have expended the thin layer of agar coated on them, and nearly None of the fruits grow from the grainwater agar slurry below that nonetheless powers the grow.
Mycelium on grain almost necessarily take the job of processing food and migrating its fruits, and mycelium that can't are cleverly given the duty of developing fruits.
So without a nutritive source, you have a bunch of attempts to expend without any supply.
Of course that also applies to water.
I think this is a major reason results on straight-grains, especially uncased, have appeared far less than that same nutrition has been when mixed into a low- or non-nutritive watermass (it offers both water supply and a less unpreferable fruiting environment structure) and also a main reason why a casing layer on straight grains seems to provide a clear sense of directionalism for fruiting behavior, not just moisture preservation and a good microclimate.
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: Violet]
#19337403 - 12/28/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i can see a few knots that tried to grow but hit the side and turned blue on the tip
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: Violet]
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Violet said: I've become fairly positive that is because Cubensis (and perhaps others, but my observations are of Cubensis) really prefers to pin away from nutritional sources wherever possible. Culture expanded over very little nutrition cannot do the job of eating so is delegated to the job of fruiting.
However without a grain nutrition source ("spawn") there is no part of the culture on any noteworthy nutritive resources... so those pin sites never get to become anything more than potentials.
We can easily get fruits to grow from things with No nutrition. Vermiculite is a prime example and most if not all other bulk substrates aren't far from it. Many of my recent culture tests were done with "invitro" straight grains, and I found that All of them had more pins grow from rhizos on the bare plastic than on the super-nutritious rice. My pompom tek grows have confirmed this, as over 90% of the fruits grow from nylon scrubbies where the mycelium have expended the thin layer of agar coated on them, and nearly None of the fruits grow from the grainwater agar slurry below that nonetheless powers the grow.
Mycelium on grain almost necessarily take the job of processing food and migrating its fruits, and mycelium that can't are cleverly given the duty of developing fruits.
So without a nutritive source, you have a bunch of attempts to expend without any supply.
Of course that also applies to water.
I think this is a major reason results on straight-grains, especially uncased, have appeared far less than that same nutrition has been when mixed into a low- or non-nutritive watermass (it offers both water supply and a less unpreferable fruiting environment structure) and also a main reason why a casing layer on straight grains seems to provide a clear sense of directionalism for fruiting behavior, not just moisture preservation and a good microclimate.

Hey Violet, ever try wood-loving psilocybes on newspaper? Cellulose may not be that great for cubes, but it should be alright for wood-lovers, right?
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: ghiajake]
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starting to see knots take shape,
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where....i don't see it
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
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only picture I could get, you can see are the round knots then the knot starting to poke out on the left of the cup
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
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I wouldn't mind if it was the only one that grew, I just happy to see this one
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two pins i can see there tiny caps
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TeaSippinHippie



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just as I was giving up hope,
2 pins

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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19345991 - 12/30/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yay! It's ALIIIVE! I hope this turns into full fledged mushrooms. It would be interesting if they did grow up. Maybe you could do a supplemental nutrition source within the newspaper balls next time. You would have to PC then, but it would be worth the fast colonization from the looks of things.
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: Jassassin] 1
#19346007 - 12/30/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I only put half a tablespoon of coffee in it, so I didn't expect much but i'll be happy with 3 mushies. I'm going to get a PC soon, I keep getting contaminated spawn bags but hey, this came from a salvaged spawn bag.
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cool little experiment man. I tried a cellulose grow once. colonized great. but never knotted up. wonder if you could late case with some field capacity verm, to get more from that tek? good luck there...
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: bluecap]
#19346152 - 12/30/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mine did the same thing, all knots but no pins, but last night I moved it closer to the oil heater and that happened
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cool, are you bottom watering? misting or such? looks like its thirsty to me...cant believe its pinning for ya! way to go man....
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: bluecap]
#19346211 - 12/30/13 12:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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misting when needed, its pretty damp in there as it is, and thanks man, im pretty happy, I can't wait to see my bulk pin
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TeaSippinHippie



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up to 5 pins
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great stuff hippie! thnx for the updates on the daily
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
#19351044 - 12/31/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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damn that's a tough one man. so no grain at all there? just mycelium to cellulose? you should put some of those rhyzomorphs to pda. bet that baby would rip through some sub with a quickness.
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: bluecap]
#19351300 - 12/31/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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about 3gs of rye covered in mycelium to the newspaper
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I guess that's MS for you, two different genetics, I was hoping to get a good trip from the first mushies I grew but from the looks of it i'll barely get a .5 dry
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
#19358474 - 01/02/14 01:14 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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I wish there was more to about
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a few grams of grains to newspaper.....
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
#19358510 - 01/02/14 01:20 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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haha, well yeah if you look at it that way. on the bright side my bucket is knotting up,
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Well, at least you now the biological efficiency (BE) isn't good on straight newspaper. But you know it will colonize well and even fruit on it, so using newspaper with some manure or coir would be a good way to increase substrate mass. Since newspaper doesn't need pasteurized you can pasteurize a few quarts of traditional substrate and add it to hydrated newspaper before spawning. From what I've watched, and how I did my newspaper test for edibles (still on-going), you just dip the shredded paper in water then strain it good before spawning. I used myc from an old straw block, fresh grain spawn, and dowel spawn of varying edible species to test out the best way to spawn newspaper for edible grows. So far its grain spawn in the lead, followed shortly behind by the dowels. The older straw myc doesn't seem to be near as quick, but I have fruited it 3 times already before breaking it up to spawn the paper. I spawned a couple mini-tubs of P. alleni to newspaper for SWIM to keep at his house to test them as well. Used colonized wood chip to spawn it. Seems to be colonizing well, from what he says.
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: ghiajake]
#19360596 - 01/02/14 08:30 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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what's the most I could get out of that? I'm going to fast and do the lemon tek, but I don't think its going to do anything
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should I pick now, the first flush?
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I would clone them shits, seems like they aint too picky
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19361125 - 01/02/14 10:37 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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I have nothing to do it with right now, I might on the second flush because theres 5 more pins, the viels are breaking on the 2 1in shrooms, I think I should dunk the cake for the second flush, the newspaper is drying out on the inside.
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The bell curve of multi-spore culture Cubensis yield seems to be mostly between 200%-300% bio efficiency per grain
Going by this, if the grains you used were say 3g when dry, you may get one dry gram from it total. Maybe a tad more if the myc can take more than a tiny bit from the paper.
The way to realize yield is to make sure there's enough water, but I've learned that we can mostly figure potential yield by the grain used for the grow. However such numbers based on the use of "bulk" substrates turns out to be effectively meaningless and hasn't told me anything other than how little "bulk" subs contribute to the grow besides water. So especially the use of something like paper would almost be only as a water and fruiting medium for grains. Input more grains, output more fruits.
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: Violet]
#19361412 - 01/02/14 11:51 PM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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You can't go wrong listening to Violet. Has helped me out a lot by educating me and grounding me when my substrate ideas get all wacky. So what's your take on the paper for cellulose-digesting species Violet?
Hippie: When I had flushes coming in sporadically I would chop up the mushies and put them in a glass jar with lemon juice and distilled water until I had enough to make tea with. Just write down your fresh weight each time you add more mushies to the jar so you can figure out how much water to add when making the tea, and your dosages. I'd keep the jar in the fridge and shake it every time I opened the fridge.
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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: ghiajake]
#19362660 - 01/03/14 10:05 AM (10 years, 28 days ago) |
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I have Ps. Cyan and Subaeruginosa spores but haven't ever gotten past having them on agar since I've never had a spot to make a bed for them.
Either way around I don't figure paper to have nearly the capacity of wood. Since wood-eaters metabolism is fitted to woods I kindof think that wood may sortof seem as/more nutritious to them as/than grain. Hence Shiitake mutates in sawdust with much over 5-10% bran but doesn't mutate if it happens to pin on neglected grain spawn bags. So it seems to me that using paper for species that require wood only dilutes their substrate potential some as well.
My guess (a somewhat educated guess at best as I've not tried it with Oysters yet) is that paper would be most beneficial for species like Oysters that can fruit on most anything and have better results doing so than straight-grain.
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