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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19328400 - 12/26/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm interested in seeing your results. I recently watched Radical Mycology's video 'Growing mushrooms on newspaper' series of videos (4, on YouTube) from their 2012 Convergence. The demonstrator explains that there is no need for pasteurizing straight newspaper. He used the clean myc inside an old straw block of Pink Oysters to spawn the hydrated and strained shredded newspaper. He explained that you don't want your substrate to be too thick, otherwise the center will become anaerobic. I have a straw block of Pinks that have fruited 3 times that I'm going to spawn some newspaper with today. If it works good I'll tell my buddy to try spawning newspaper with some Alleni woodchip spawn.


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: ghiajake]
    #19332787 - 12/27/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

more and more of the little dots keep popping up, none of them are doing anything though


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19333379 - 12/27/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I bet you will wake up tmr or the next day to some pins!


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: indocult]
    #19333385 - 12/27/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:goodmorning:


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
    #19333591 - 12/27/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

none of them are getting bigger then the size of the tip of a pen.


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19336793 - 12/28/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah that was basically my experience:shrug:


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
    #19336822 - 12/28/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting... Lack of nutrition compared to how much energy spent?

What ratio did you use in your experiment Cronicr?


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: magickspore]
    #19336890 - 12/28/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

if it doesn't fruit ill make tea with it, mmmm paper flavor tea :lol:


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: magickspore]
    #19336958 - 12/28/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Interesting... Lack of nutrition compared to how much energy spent?

What ratio did you use in your experiment Cronicr?



i just chucked a grain on cardboard and basicly forgot about it, a couple weeks later i seen primodora all over it but they never really developed:shrug: i seen veda sticks grow on news paper but he used cakes i believe so he had alot more nutrition in his sub


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
    #19337197 - 12/28/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've become fairly positive that is because Cubensis (and perhaps others, but my observations are of Cubensis) really prefers to pin away from nutritional sources wherever possible. Culture expanded over very little nutrition cannot do the job of eating so is delegated to the job of fruiting.

However without a grain nutrition source ("spawn") there is no part of the culture on any noteworthy nutritive resources... so those pin sites never get to become anything more than potentials.

We can easily get fruits to grow from things with No nutrition.  Vermiculite is a prime example and most if not all other bulk substrates aren't far from it.
Many of my recent culture tests were done with "invitro" straight grains, and I found that All of them had more pins grow from rhizos on the bare plastic than on the super-nutritious rice.
My pompom tek grows have confirmed this, as over 90% of the fruits grow from nylon scrubbies where the mycelium have expended the thin layer of agar coated on them, and nearly None of the fruits grow from the grainwater agar slurry below that nonetheless powers the grow.

Mycelium on grain almost necessarily take the job of processing food and migrating its fruits, and mycelium that can't are cleverly given the duty of developing fruits.

So without a nutritive source, you have a bunch of attempts to expend without any supply.

Of course that also applies to water.



I think this is a major reason results on straight-grains, especially uncased, have appeared far less than that same nutrition has been when mixed into a low- or non-nutritive watermass (it offers both water supply and a less unpreferable fruiting environment structure)
and also a main reason why a casing layer on straight grains seems to provide a clear sense of directionalism for fruiting behavior, not just moisture preservation and a good microclimate.


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: Violet]
    #19337403 - 12/28/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i can see a few knots that tried to grow but hit the side and turned blue on the tip


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: Violet]
    #19338064 - 12/28/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I've become fairly positive that is because Cubensis (and perhaps others, but my observations are of Cubensis) really prefers to pin away from nutritional sources wherever possible. Culture expanded over very little nutrition cannot do the job of eating so is delegated to the job of fruiting.

However without a grain nutrition source ("spawn") there is no part of the culture on any noteworthy nutritive resources... so those pin sites never get to become anything more than potentials.

We can easily get fruits to grow from things with No nutrition.  Vermiculite is a prime example and most if not all other bulk substrates aren't far from it.
Many of my recent culture tests were done with "invitro" straight grains, and I found that All of them had more pins grow from rhizos on the bare plastic than on the super-nutritious rice.
My pompom tek grows have confirmed this, as over 90% of the fruits grow from nylon scrubbies where the mycelium have expended the thin layer of agar coated on them, and nearly None of the fruits grow from the grainwater agar slurry below that nonetheless powers the grow.

Mycelium on grain almost necessarily take the job of processing food and migrating its fruits, and mycelium that can't are cleverly given the duty of developing fruits.

So without a nutritive source, you have a bunch of attempts to expend without any supply.

Of course that also applies to water.



I think this is a major reason results on straight-grains, especially uncased, have appeared far less than that same nutrition has been when mixed into a low- or non-nutritive watermass (it offers both water supply and a less unpreferable fruiting environment structure)
and also a main reason why a casing layer on straight grains seems to provide a clear sense of directionalism for fruiting behavior, not just moisture preservation and a good microclimate.




:whathesaid:

Hey Violet, ever try wood-loving psilocybes on newspaper? Cellulose may not be that great for cubes, but it should be alright for wood-lovers, right?


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: ghiajake]
    #19342493 - 12/29/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

starting to see knots take shape,


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19342511 - 12/29/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

where....i don't see it:shrug::wink:


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
    #19342525 - 12/29/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



only picture I could get, you can see are the round knots then the knot starting to poke out on the left of the cup


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    #19342530 - 12/29/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:bearbreakdance:


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: cronicr]
    #19343070 - 12/29/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't mind if it was the only one that grew, I just happy to see this one :grin:


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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19345720 - 12/30/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

two pins :laugh: i can see there tiny caps


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    #19345930 - 12/30/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

just as I was giving up hope,

2 pins




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Re: A-strain on newspaper. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19345980 - 12/30/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:popcorn:


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