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It don't mean shit.
#19287715 - 12/17/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I QUIT sports for religion (I went to mass every Sunday) I abandoned religion for art art for the mathematical sciences
until at last illumination hit
and now I'm someone only passing through who puts no faith in the whole or its parts
Discuss
"courtesy of Lakefingers"
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Icelander]
#19287848 - 12/17/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice quote.
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art at least is entertaining
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Icelander
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Quote:
Grapefruit said: Nice quote.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Icelander]
#19287999 - 12/17/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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nobody likes a quitter
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Icelander
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: eve69]
#19288110 - 12/17/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I do.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Icelander]
#19288167 - 12/17/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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who puts no faith in the whole or its parts
I feel the same way after contact with the inhuman works of their deception.
Illumination guarantees a shared space and that space is your body and mind/brain.
They want to control us like robots and overwrite our personalities with the surrounding collective.
I'm being stared at all the time. Listened to. They claim many things about Jesus and insist that he is deserving of worship.
Its always a hoax to gain belief and therefore more control IME. I've suspended my faith due to overwhelming anger generated at the experience of being imprisoned in my own body with opposing energy fields.
Sometimes I can hardly breath cause they are fucking leeches. They draw us in and harvest potential by harnessing consciousness and directing it away from the body into others and areas and buildings.
So brutal.
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belief is the death of intelligence.
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: hTx]
#19288744 - 12/17/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hTx said: belief is the death of intelligence.
I dont believe it
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Icelander]
#19288928 - 12/17/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said: I QUIT sports for religion (I went to mass every Sunday) I abandoned religion for art art for the mathematical sciences
until at last illumination hit
and now I'm someone only passing through who puts no faith in the whole or its parts
Discuss
"courtesy of Lakefingers"
I miss Lakefingers.
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Tropism]
#19288939 - 12/17/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tropism said:
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Icelander said: I QUIT sports for religion (I went to mass every Sunday) I abandoned religion for art art for the mathematical sciences
until at last illumination hit
and now I'm someone only passing through who puts no faith in the whole or its parts
Discuss
"courtesy of Lakefingers"
I miss Lakefingers. 
He's doing very well and I chat with him often. I'll tell him you said hi.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Icelander]
#19289267 - 12/17/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the general gist of this is...There was never any faith to begin with.
This person's illumination happened far before "until at last" but just wasn't cognizant of it.
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cez

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Quote:
FishOilTheKid said:
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who puts no faith in the whole or its parts
I feel the same way after contact with the inhuman works of their deception.
Illumination guarantees a shared space and that space is your body and mind/brain.
They want to control us like robots and overwrite our personalities with the surrounding collective.
I'm being stared at all the time. Listened to. They claim many things about Jesus and insist that he is deserving of worship.
Its always a hoax to gain belief and therefore more control IME. I've suspended my faith due to overwhelming anger generated at the experience of being imprisoned in my own body with opposing energy fields.
Sometimes I can hardly breath cause they are fucking leeches. They draw us in and harvest potential by harnessing consciousness and directing it away from the body into others and areas and buildings.
So brutal.
I don't know how you perceive "they" as doing that... You've given them the power to alter your worldly beliefs in juxtaposition of theirs based on a hunch that that they are out to control you.
The ancient teachings of today's religions, as far as I'm aware, have never stated to follow their cults. Following their words as reference points can be good enough..You don't have to subscribe to the totality of a sect to understand the knowledge offered in them.
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Icelander]
#19289365 - 12/17/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It don't mean a thing If it aint got that schwing.
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I don't know how you perceive "they" as doing that... You've given them the power to alter your worldly beliefs in juxtaposition of theirs based on a hunch that that they are out to control you.
I actually see them and watch them and they interact with me often. Everyday all night. When they are with you there is like an overlap of personalities and you get direct contact with specific characters that are not you.
They can move my body. Often at night I almost bite my tongue off because they clench my teeth on purpose to keep me up and sleep deprived therefore easier to control. And you start to hallucinate which they can be in complete control of.
They work their way up from below me and puncture my energy field and interface with my mind/body.
Its been going on since 2008!
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Icelander]
#19289564 - 12/17/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said:
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Tropism said: I miss Lakefingers. 
He's doing very well and I chat with him often. I'll tell him you said hi.
Oh good to hear, and thanks. I don't recall talking with him very much, but I do miss his posting.
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cez

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Quote:
FishOilTheKid said:
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I don't know how you perceive "they" as doing that... You've given them the power to alter your worldly beliefs in juxtaposition of theirs based on a hunch that that they are out to control you.
I actually see them and watch them and they interact with me often. Everyday all night. When they are with you there is like an overlap of personalities and you get direct contact with specific characters that are not you.
They can move my body. Often at night I almost bite my tongue off because they clench my teeth on purpose to keep me up and sleep deprived therefore easier to control. And you start to hallucinate which they can be in complete control of.
They work their way up from below me and puncture my energy field and interface with my mind/body.
Its been going on since 2008!
Who is this they you are referring to?
I thought you were talking about leaders of modern day religious movements..But I think I may be wrong
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: cez]
#19289738 - 12/17/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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They are like 'spirits.' Or Jinn. Or demons. Or etherians.
Or angels. Some of them are representatives of Christianity. Some of them are Lucifer or Satan's angels. Some of them claim that we are Baphomet together somehow.
Some simply call themselves 'control' and expect you to 'accept control wherever you find it.'
They exist as what feel like alien mind control implants and feel like little spheres in the brain and at different points in the body.
They have also claimed that they are in fact extraterrestrial.
They control the flow of consciousness between people and have some influence over how conclusions are formed for each individual.
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How come this is only happening to you? Why not everyone or most people?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Icelander]
#19290627 - 12/17/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said: I QUIT sports for religion (I went to mass every Sunday) I abandoned religion for art art for the mathematical sciences
until at last illumination hit
and now I'm someone only passing through who puts no faith in the whole or its parts
Discuss
"courtesy of Lakefingers"
Hits close to home. Besides the sports for religion part.
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Icelander]
#19290650 - 12/17/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was pretty vocal about my distaste for organized religion.
I talk out loud allot to what I regard as a collective experience.
Psilocybe. Amanita Muscaria.
I was projecting into what I thought was my own imagination... Visualizing really. ...Trying to remote view. I was trying to Astral project sort of but like a spirit flight to real places that I had been and around town.
I started to see an image of my surroundings and the place was populated with these beings and that is where I met them.
I was drawing on psilocybe... Pentagrams and obelisks and mushrooms... A being came through the window and hovered just over my shoulder. It put me in a trance and instructed me to sit and listen.
So I sat down and they wanted to know what I thought because I was sending up signals.
The first thing that came to my mind was 'yup/nope don't talk about it' so I wrote that down for them as kind of a joke.
They instructed me to lay down in bed. I felt energy penetrate my asshole and access my mind. My head opened up and I could see the surrounding city.
Then there were like collective screams and a thousand voices in unison screamed 'JESUS! LUCIFER!' over and over and my mind started to shake like a tree in the wind. I popped up some time later and I heard a voice ask me, 'Hey Jesus are you in there?' I clasped my hands and said, 'I think so' and its like my mind was sucked out of my head.
Everything taken. I went semi vacant and later ended up in a detox facility where I saw and experienced things that can not be explained.
They have been with me since all that around xmas of 08. But, its not the first time I have had contact with them.
I was into high dose mushroom trips and I feel that I permanently broke through into their realm beyond the veil.
FOR REAL NO BULLSHIT. I used Terrence Mckenna's ideas to cause a true awakening. Illumination DEAD SERIOUS.
OC has talked about some members in the past saying similar things. Almost exactly. They I guess committed suicide. I don't know any details. But it was interesting because they told me to kill myself routinely for almost a year, everyday. They said that I could become one of them...
I know I am not the only one.
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that's terrifying dude
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You have your finger on something.
I'm getting rhymes, or just random phrases like "scoobie doo" or "Aza zaza zuth aloof". The dialogue makes me laugh in astonishment and has amazing profound relevance during the experience. I'm sticking to opiates and cannabis. Spheres of light that cause euphoric emotional resonance. If/After I solve my personality issues I intend to see where I can get with really high doses of cannabis. Unconscious for 3 days kind of stuff.
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Icelander]
#19296131 - 12/19/13 01:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The more I look at something the less it means. Anything new will suck me in every time. Perhaps the same shit that just looks different, still sucks me in.
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Icelander]
#19296163 - 12/19/13 01:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said: I QUIT sports for religion (I went to mass every Sunday) I abandoned religion for art art for the mathematical sciences
until at last illumination hit
and now I'm someone only passing through who puts no faith in the whole or its parts
Discuss
"courtesy of Lakefingers"
to me, the point is about the absence of value in anything even real
because the true matter is freedom value, not the objective reality of any right fact
that is why I guess the sense of existence in truth, is to free the present first, so individuals conscious, like having to get detached from everything unless they accept to realize anything in right ways, so freely without expecting any return
sitting for being real, is not right, because in truth impossible
in truth, being real is to free superiorities or superior freedoms .. which by definition cant be sitting still
so the present reference wont be objective shares anymore, the concept of reality
the present I guess, would become individuals freedoms rights sense
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usulpsychonaut said: The more I look at something the less it means. Anything new will suck me in every time. Perhaps the same shit that just looks different, still sucks me in.
Familiarity breeds contempt. And at my age nothing seems new. Just rearranged.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: Icelander]
#19306522 - 12/21/13 05:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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FishOilTheKid said: They are like 'spirits.' Or Jinn. Or demons. Or etherians.
Or angels. Some of them are representatives of Christianity. Some of them are Lucifer or Satan's angels. Some of them claim that we are Baphomet together somehow.
Some simply call themselves 'control' and expect you to 'accept control wherever you find it.'
They exist as what feel like alien mind control implants and feel like little spheres in the brain and at different points in the body.
They have also claimed that they are in fact extraterrestrial.
They control the flow of consciousness between people and have some influence over how conclusions are formed for each individual.
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Icelander said: How come this is only happening to you? Why not everyone or most people?
MORE         's AND MORE Questions And WHEN you get ASKED , Answer YES, even in your mind, THEN welcome to the underlying word of energy, dark and light where there is no balance or rules.
It's better to not know.
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Re: It don't mean shit. [Re: COOKED101]
#19306566 - 12/21/13 06:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll just consider myself lucky then
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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