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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox]
#19284792 - 12/16/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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st1llnox said: I've gone in restaurants homeless people were sitting against begging for food and bought them take out meals. They have, each time, set it somewhere on the ground and gone instantly back to begging for money "for food".
And BEAUTIFLY said, DrugsRGood.
That's interesting.
I spent one evening with a crack addict and it amazed me how good he was at begging for money. We drove around for a couple of hours and he was able to beg for 120$ dollars in total. He offered me a couple hits... Was a great guy...
So I can see why most of the time they don't care about food because for them they only spend like 20$ a day (I'm assuming and if that) on food and the rest on drugs cause that's what sustains them...
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox]
#19284795 - 12/16/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know a guy who bought a subway sandwich and gave it to a homeless guy; as he walked away from the homeless guy he turned around to see the homeless guy take one sniff of the sandwich and then throw it away . Anyway something to think about before stealing food...
Also something else to think about is that you could end up stealing a homeless guy something he's allergic to, for example imagine how much of a disaster you could cause if you steal peanuts for a homeless guy that's allergic to peanuts (although it's very unlikely to happen, but it's still possible)
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19284806 - 12/16/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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DrugsRGood said:
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st1llnox said: I've gone in restaurants homeless people were sitting against begging for food and bought them take out meals. They have, each time, set it somewhere on the ground and gone instantly back to begging for money "for food".
And BEAUTIFLY said, DrugsRGood.
That's interesting.
I spent one evening with a crack addict and it amazed me how good he was at begging for money. We drove around for a couple of hours and he was able to beg for 120$ dollars in total. He offered me a couple hits... Was a great guy...
So I can see why most of the time they don't care about food because for them they only spend like 20$ a day (I'm assuming and if that) on food and the rest on drugs cause that's what sustains them...
You should have gave that guy money because it's better to do that then nothing at all
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DrugsRGood
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The5thElement said: You should have gave that guy money because it's better to do that then nothing at all 
I gave him 20$.
You didn't understand what I said. He caused no harm and was a great guy. Meanwhile the Walton fuckers are swimming in money while people in Bangladesh make clothes for them to sell at a ridiculous profit because they are too cheap to pay them more than 30$ a month.
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19284839 - 12/16/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Great guy or not, is he not able to support himself then? So you gave him 20$, meanwhile he's pretty much just buying drugs with it says you.
Ok so some rich people are making money off of their employees... We should rob them and give to whom? What exactly is the point, and the act of you giving that guy money, was it the right thing to do?
I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm trying to understand. I have to leave for work now, be back in 8-10 hours.
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19284842 - 12/16/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The5thElement said: It's hard to tell who actually needs support and who's lazy and doesn't want to do anything for themselves.I'm all for helping people but that act is far from black and white.
It's still better to do absolutely nothing than to do harm like the Walton family.
What harm does the Walton family do? And who the fuck do you think you are to decide who is worthy of being stolen from? Who elected you? Stealing is wrong in any form.
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19284849 - 12/16/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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DrugsRGood said:
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The5thElement said: You should have gave that guy money because it's better to do that then nothing at all 
I gave him 20$.
You didn't understand what I said. He caused no harm and was a great guy. Meanwhile the Walton fuckers are swimming in money while people in Bangladesh make clothes for them to sell at a ridiculous profit because they are too cheap to pay them more than 30$ a month.
Maybe you should bring that up with all the poor people who can buy products they otherwise would not be able to afford. Then you can ask the Bangladeshis how they would feel when they have no jobs because they would lose the competitive advantage of a low wage to those with more advantageous transportation means
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: zappaisgod]
#19284861 - 12/16/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The5thElement said: It's hard to tell who actually needs support and who's lazy and doesn't want to do anything for themselves.I'm all for helping people but that act is far from black and white.
It's still better to do absolutely nothing than to do harm like the Walton family.
What harm does the Walton family do? And who the fuck do you think you are to decide who is worthy of being stolen from? Who elected you? Stealing is wrong in any form.
I am me and a I decided for myself. Everybody else does whatever he wants. Good for you to think this way, I think differently.
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Just a few other personal experiences
Once a guy asked me for some change for a cup of coffee and I gave him a dollar. As I was walking to my car I saw him walk to the liquor store and sat in my car until he came out with a 40oz lol
Way back when I lived in San Diego I was in downtown and and a homeless guy came up to me while I was waiting in the Del Taco drive thru. He had a really good story, but I forget the majority of it. Something about trying really hard to get a job and get back on his feet and needed money for a meal. So I gave him a couple bucks and in my head told myself he was just going to get drugs. So I drive over to my gf's to pick her up and he was sitting out side her building eating jack in the box . . .
Another time me and my ex gf went to see alex grey in SF and it was so cramped and packed and hot in there. We were high on L and there was no re-entry so wee just bailed out early but had to wait for our friend who was still in there somewhere. We walked to some gas station to look for a bathroom, it was about 1 am in a shitty part of the city, and there was this guy with his hood up on his car. He started talking to us about the show and if it was good, then as we were walking away he told this story about how he got beat up and robed, just got out of the hospital and needed to get home but did not have money for gas. He even shed a tear or two. I was ready to just bounce but my ex wanted to put some gas in his car. On the way to the cashier some guy came up and told us not to do it because that guy was there all of the time. Then he tried to sell us some drugs. She put 7 dollars in and then he said he needed money for the bridge, but we said no. Then some other dude tried to sell us drugs. Fuck the city
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass] 1
#19284885 - 12/16/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I knew someone who was living in someone elses place temporarily and to eat he stole a whole shit load of pork once, he was broke and starving so I think it was justified. I was absolutely impressed with how he got away with that much meat. I helped him barbaque and it could have easily fed like 10 people, plus leftovers. He was one ballsy motherfucker.
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19284892 - 12/16/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If a homeless person ever tells me they are hungry I will buy them food. If I have money I will buy it, only way I would ever steal food is if I was starving and couldn't get it any other way. Its not stealing about a corporation, its being too cheap to buy food with your money.
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The5thElement said: Great guy or not, is he not able to support himself then? So you gave him 20$, meanwhile he's pretty much just buying drugs with it says you.
Ok so some rich people are making money off of their employees... We should rob them and give to whom? What exactly is the point, and the act of you giving that guy money, was it the right thing to do?
I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm trying to understand. I have to leave for work now, be back in 8-10 hours.
Spread the wealth that's my point.
Do you know how much it cost him to maintain his crack addiction a day? A lot. I gave him money because he begged me first. 
At the end of evening he pleaded me to help him get out of it. He was crying and kept telling me how good his life was before crack.
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
#19286838 - 12/17/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think if your going to give anyone something, give them food. If someone turns that down and asks for change instead shit isn't that bad.
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19286841 - 12/17/13 01:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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In high school some friends and I used to regularly steal subs from Wegman's. Eventually we realized this same guy was always at the exit we got off on our way home so we started stealing him one too. He seemed to appreciate it.
I wouldn't do it now, but I wouldn't do a lot of things that I was okay with doing in high school.
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19287579 - 12/17/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LiquidGlass said: So my question is, will they really miss a few boxes of granola bars and some bags of dog treats? Would the benefit of feeding a hungry person outweigh the negativity of theft?
depends on if you get caught, would a couple of years of probation, fines, restitution and all the supervision fees be worth $6 with of crap, now consider that you've got a record now, a few more of the same offenses and you could see a life sentence.. still worth it? is it worth being labeled as a thief regardless of your intent?
now lemme ask? why you feeding a homeless guy some fucking dog biscuits? that's just wrong, or does the homeless guy have a dog because if he does, that's just fucked up because if he cant take care of himself then how does he expect to take care of a dog, what happens when the dog is sick or in some other way becomes a financial liability, like you know... when he has to feed the thing
yeah, so the way I see it, hook the fucker up with work, let him buy food for him and his dog, stop pandering to these fuckers, most are scam artists anyway and they choose locations like that because they know they can get something from people in the area
and if he doesnt fall all over himself to get some work... shoot him in the dick
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19287590 - 12/17/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LiquidGlass said: I hate to see an animal starve.
thats why they do it.
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19287591 - 12/17/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LiquidGlass said: If you go to a major chain or huge corporate grocery store and you see some person with a cardboard sign asking for money or whatever, would you consider it bad karma(if such a thing exists) to steal food from the store and give it to the beggar and/or his dog. It also really irks me that if you cannot support yourself you probably should not own pets, but half of the homeless around here all have fucking dogs! I hate to see an animal starve.
I have thought about doing such things, but would never think to do it to a small locally owned business. I have also worked for certain major grocery corporations. Ones in which the CEO made 10 million dollars a year and we could not even get the proper supplies needed to run the deli correctly. You work your fucking ass off only to get no appreciation whatsoever. The only recognition you get is if you make a mistake. Those corporate fucks do not give one single shit about the working man.
So my question is, will they really miss a few boxes of granola bars and some bags of dog treats? Would the benefit of feeding a hungry person outweigh the negativity of theft?
I think a lot of people have a dog before they become homeless. Its hard to part with an animal when you have an emotional attachemnt to it, I can see this being even more problematic for those who become homeless.
I'd have no problem stealing from the rich to give to the poor. I admire men like Robin Hood and Ted Kennedy afterall.
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19287604 - 12/17/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: I'd have no problem stealing from the rich to give to the poor. I admire men like Robin Hood and Ted Kennedy afterall.
robin hood took from the rich and gave to the poor according to the fiction
ted kennedy drowned young women in the Chappaquiddick river
I believe there's a bit of a difference
like kennedy was very wealthy
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass] 1
#19287737 - 12/17/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Let me break it down for you all--I live the life of a penniless traveller, and in affluent western society (like the USA and Canada) you will NEVER starve unless you are in the deep backcountry and don't know how to hunt. You may be malnourished, but starving is never going to happen unless you literally choose to not eat. Shoplifting isn't even required.
Even in small towns, I have always found religious and social organizations that provide free meals or food bank services. In a large city? You can pretty much eat three meals a day once you learn the feeding schedules--sunday is feast day!
If, for whatever reason, you can't find the above, dumpster diving is your friend. You aren't truly hungry if you are above eating that leftover tray of fries someone left in the food court. And once you can move beyond eating leftovers and migrate to grocery store dumpsters, you will find enough food to feed 30 people with ease--and healthily too!
The ONLY thing that a person NEEDS to spange for is drug money. They may be doing it for other reasons, but this is never out of need but due to laziness (you can often make more money spangeing than busking, because people pitty a beggar more than a working preformer). Just keep this in mind, and know where your money is likely headed.
And... keep off of homeless folk and their dogs. When society looks at you like a piece of dirt (and that's when it's paying any attention to you at all), having someone who loves you unconditionally goes beyond words. Not to mention the protection a dog can provide, as well as sharing warmth on a cold night. In my experience, the dogs eat better than the people--at a minimum, half of all their food goes to their dog--if not more. Can their still be the odd shitty dog owner, of course, but in my opinion the dogs of homeless folk are some of the best treated dogs out there--and I have known too many people who have had their dogs taken away from them/killed by dickheads to not feel strongly about this issue.
If you truly feel sympathy for a homeless person, I wouldn't recommend giving them cash (or food) as a solution. Instead, spend time with them, treat them like you would any human--forget they are homeless and just relate with them. The effect of having hundreds of people walk by you without even acknowledging your existence can be extremely depressing. Treat them like people, not like charity cases--because people is what they are.
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I used to hang out with a few homeless people that hung out under the bridge near my friends house. They always were pretty interesting, and I always treated them well. They are people just like anyone else, just got dealt a shitty hand.
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