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First Mini Grow * 1
    #19286454 - 12/16/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Whatsup guys, I'm new to this forum and have started my first grow. I wanted to start off small to figure things out , so i just bought a single syringe. On top of that, I had a limited time to use my friend's pressure cooker and it only fit 4 so that is what i started with (4 BRF cakes)


i converted my mirror closet/shelf into my grow station, and I've been using a day light 6500K 12on/12off in order to keep the mirror closed


I inoculated these bad boys on the 30th of November (2.5cc Per Jar)-A lot i know:syringe:





I've left the holes exposed, without any tape. I wipe down the shelf and surrounding area with rubbing alcohol daily, and haven't noticed any Contams. I notice some condensation inside the jars from time to time, and loosening and tightening the lids has done the trick with keeping that under control.
Well its been about 2 weeks now and this is where I'm at.... Just thought I'd share!
Any Input Appreciated
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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui] * 1
    #19286474 - 12/16/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

stop wiping everything in iso, your just waisting it.....good job


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #19286506 - 12/16/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Looks good keep us posted with pics & happy shrooming


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui]
    #19286576 - 12/16/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Heres a pic of the shelf just for reference



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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui] * 1
    #19286613 - 12/16/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Light is not needed for colonization. It doesn't hurt them any but not needed.


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: daltonvz] * 1
    #19286934 - 12/17/13 02:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Light is not needed for colonization. It doesn't hurt them any but not needed.




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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui] * 1
    #19287140 - 12/17/13 04:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome progress man. I too will become a first time grower soon and I would appreciate it greatly if you kept us posted and uploaded some pics occasionally.


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #19287159 - 12/17/13 04:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There's a debate  :mindblown: on whether rubbing rubbing alcohol is effective. IF used alone, etc etc etc


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what you are all also failing to mention is that FRICTION in combination with a sanitizing agent is MOST EFFECTIVE.  I.e.  not good enough to just spray a sanitizer on, you should rub it on.  We have done various experiments comparing the efficacy of different sanitizing agents as part of the microbiology program where I teach.  Plain and simple, it is difficult to get statistically different results when comparing 10percent clorox and 70 percent iso.  The bleach usually wins but BARELY, and probably because as you mention, the iso evaporates more quickly.  Rubbing either on a non-porous surface with soaked paper towel fresh off the roll is best.  just spraying it on is not nearly as effective.




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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19288200 - 12/17/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Light is not needed for colonization. It doesn't hurt them any but not needed.




Good to know, I may have read that it speeds up the colonizing process. For me, I did it because my room is rather drafty and with this light in my closet, i don't have to open up my mirrors to get the indirect sunlight, i just turn on the light and leave the mirror closed. Maybe I'm being over protective of the draft/contams :smirk:

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There's a debate  :mindblown: on whether rubbing rubbing alcohol is effective. IF used alone, etc etc etc




Oh wow thanks for this bit, very interesting ... so the friction is what does it. Mind=Blown


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui]
    #19288380 - 12/17/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Who knows, dude, sometimes I come here for a quick answer and leave more confused than when I started. :sad:

Good luck with your thing, there. Take care.


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: SuperSillyUs] * 1
    #19288922 - 12/17/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Who knows, dude, sometimes I come here for a quick answer and leave more confused than when I started. :sad:

Good luck with your thing, there. Take care.




Haha thats the way it seems. There are certain people here that I take their word and follow exactly what to do. If you have been reading, you know exactly who they are!


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19288934 - 12/17/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:goodmorning:
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SuperSillyUs said:
There's a debate  :mindblown: on whether rubbing rubbing alcohol is effective. IF used alone, etc etc etc


Here's one Trusted Cultivator's take on it:
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what you are all also failing to mention is that FRICTION in combination with a sanitizing agent is MOST EFFECTIVE.  I.e.  not good enough to just spray a sanitizer on, you should rub it on.  We have done various experiments comparing the efficacy of different sanitizing agents as part of the microbiology program where I teach.  Plain and simple, it is difficult to get statistically different results when comparing 10percent clorox and 70 percent iso.  The bleach usually wins but BARELY, and probably because as you mention, the iso evaporates more quickly.  Rubbing either on a non-porous surface with soaked paper towel fresh off the roll is best.  just spraying it on is not nearly as effective.






ok but theres no debating that rubbing the surroundings down in iso is doing any good, we use filteers for a reason just save your iso for other things lol


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: cronicr]
    #19288964 - 12/17/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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:goodmorning:
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SuperSillyUs said:
There's a debate  :mindblown: on whether rubbing rubbing alcohol is effective. IF used alone, etc etc etc


Here's one Trusted Cultivator's take on it:
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what you are all also failing to mention is that FRICTION in combination with a sanitizing agent is MOST EFFECTIVE.  I.e.  not good enough to just spray a sanitizer on, you should rub it on.  We have done various experiments comparing the efficacy of different sanitizing agents as part of the microbiology program where I teach.  Plain and simple, it is difficult to get statistically different results when comparing 10percent clorox and 70 percent iso.  The bleach usually wins but BARELY, and probably because as you mention, the iso evaporates more quickly.  Rubbing either on a non-porous surface with soaked paper towel fresh off the roll is best.  just spraying it on is not nearly as effective.






ok but theres no debating that rubbing the surroundings down in iso is doing any good, we use filteers for a reason just save your iso for other things lol




:lolwut: So, you don't clean the room you do sterile work in at all?
You know what, I don't even care dude. Do what thou wilt. And all that...


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui]
    #19288978 - 12/17/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i think your missing something here, he isn't talking about sterile work
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I wipe down the shelf and surrounding area with rubbing alcohol daily, and haven't noticed any Contams.



there is absolutely no need for that


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui]
    #19289025 - 12/17/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I've left the holes exposed, without any tape. I wipe down the shelf and surrounding area with rubbing alcohol daily, and haven't noticed any Contams.




I don't see how it hurts. Exposed holes. No filters. No tape.
Keeping your area clean is always a good habit to get into.


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19289102 - 12/17/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

he has a filter, it's his verm barrier, of course it doesn't hurt it's just not necessary, alcohol sanitizes and what he is wiping down isn't gonna jump in his jar:shrug:


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: cronicr]
    #19289394 - 12/17/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It might jump in, how you know it won't? Hm?

Seriously though, that's not a filter, and you know it, it's a vermiculite barrier.

You said there was 'no debating that rubbing the surroundings down in iso is doing any good'.
I think it's doing good. And, here we are debating. What cha know about that? lol

After all, why have a filter, or even vermiculite layer to begin with if not to protect from contaminates that, somehow, 'jump' in there?
There's all kinds of stuff floating through the air you breath right now, landing on stuff, becoming airborne again through movement.

So, keeping everything as clean as possible is always good advice.
The air and the shelves, your little heiny, everything. And thus concludes my withering assessment of your advice. :snub:


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: SuperSillyUs]
    #19289561 - 12/17/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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he has a filter, it's his verm barrier, of course it doesn't hurt it's just not necessary, alcohol sanitizes and what he is wiping down isn't gonna jump in his jar:shrug:



:whathesaid:

yes we have our verm barrier so theres no need to be all ocd about it, just don't handle your jars all the time, save your iso for your sterile work, you can wipe it down all you want but it's just gonna keep coming back, contams fall down. if you wanna clean your shelf daily...:thumbup:


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: cronicr]
    #19290386 - 12/17/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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he has a filter, it's his verm barrier, of course it doesn't hurt it's just not necessary, alcohol sanitizes and what he is wiping down isn't gonna jump in his jar:shrug:



:whathesaid:

yes we have our verm barrier so theres no need to be all ocd about it, just don't handle your jars all the time, save your iso for your sterile work, you can wipe it down all you want but it's just gonna keep coming back, contams fall down. if you wanna clean your shelf daily...:thumbup:




Iso is not sterile. Therefore does not kill all bacteria. End of conversation. Everyone gets so worked up about being clean. Yes you have to prevent contams, but not do open heart surgery.


Edited by daltonvz (12/17/13 08:05 PM)


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui]
    #19351295 - 12/31/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Whatsup everyone, & happy holidays! So on Xmas, I noticed I was at 100% colonization. So I gave it a week.  Sadly i noticed some Trich on one of my jars and removed it from my house. :sad:

Regardless i continued on with my grow. Heres my pre-dunk


I got my cakes out of my 3 remaining jars and they all look mold free


They were obviously more ready than i thought :rolleyes:

I filled my pot with cold water and some ice , and put a plate to keep them submerged.

And now i wait.

On a side note, I had an idea. I am aware that if a jar has some green mold , it is recommended not to open it due to the explosion of spores in the grow area. However, I know some people try to battle it anyway. Say you put a contaminated cake in a pot to dunk all by itself, and dissolve table salt in the water. I've read that salt halts/kills trich growth. Would a salt dunk resurrect a doomed cake? Just a thought.

Thanks for reading !


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui] * 1
    #19351301 - 12/31/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

Looks good GL.


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: NOTFALL3N]
    #19351412 - 12/31/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 30 days ago)

i'd just burry it outside and wiat for the weather to warm up


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui]
    #19363281 - 01/03/14 12:48 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

heres a little update: i finished my dunk and roll and constructed my Sgfc i did not realize how long drilling those holes  would take haha.





i have a daytime light (6500k) but im not sure where to put it. here i have it pointing towards the side. should it be above it ?


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui]
    #19363340 - 01/03/14 01:05 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

side is fine, as long as it's there it doesn't really matter


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: cronicr]
    #19363406 - 01/03/14 01:18 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

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side is fine, as long as it's there it doesn't really matter




thanks man :thumbup:


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui]
    #19364020 - 01/03/14 03:48 PM (10 years, 27 days ago)

Dude, if you want to get all crazy on de-contam or making your area as clean as possible, google Cavicide by metrex.  I use it daily, just not for grows, and that shit will kill almost anything.  Best thing about it, imo, is that it leaves a very thin film or residue when left to dry on it's own, that nothing short of space aliens could colonize....so technically it will stay clean for as long as it takes you spray it again.....just an fyi bro :wink:

it even comes in wipes


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: 1down5up]
    #19377177 - 01/06/14 12:57 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

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Dude, if you want to get all crazy on de-contam or making your area as clean as possible, google Cavicide by metrex.  I use it daily, just not for grows, and that shit will kill almost anything.  Best thing about it, imo, is that it leaves a very thin film or residue when left to dry on it's own, that nothing short of space aliens could colonize....so technically it will stay clean for as long as it takes you spray it again.....just an fyi bro :wink:

it even comes in wipes




dude thats exactly what i need haha! thanks so much, its not even expensive :grin:


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Re: First Mini Grow [Re: Naui]
    #19377233 - 01/06/14 01:24 PM (10 years, 24 days ago)

no worries man:thumbup:

You can dilute the spray if you want, it will still work.  Use distilled water.  I don't though...i just leave it full strength...that shit's as strong as magma....so do not spray it in the air, and stand around breathing it.  If it goes airborne, just leave for a few minutes.


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