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golden myc


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blacking out ok but Passing out- What??
#19286334 - 12/16/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i had my honeymoon with the shrooms early this summer. I was doing them way to much and at high doses. like 10 grams dried and in tea/lemon.
just about every time I black out. that's ok mostly, because im going in deep. BUT.. passing out and when I wake up beating my face in the ground and body all twisted up--that sux. the scary part is passing out then when I come to, I cannot understand what im seeing for a few seconds--total dysesthesia.
this weekend I tried a low dose. 3 grams dry p. envy. it was very chill and I explored the matrix. well, after 7 hours, I went to bed and kept trippin. I got hungry and went and ate pizza. then oh shit...passing out. woke up with back arched up and spaziming and total confusion. but then the trip was over. completely. hell yea.
I have a theory that im workin dead brain areas in the trip and body is going into some kind of shock at the end of the trip.
when I pass out its always at the very end of the trip--after I've gone in deep and talked to other entities. also, im hoping im not the only one doing that....
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: golden myc]
#19286388 - 12/16/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not something I've experienced or seen.
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19286416 - 12/16/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds like you have taken way too high of doses, fucked your body up and trained it to hate mushrooms. Good job. I would say take a sobriety break and come back in 6 months with a low dose like 2g. There's no real reason why anyone should be taking 10g dried and blacking out, what's the point in that?
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Notfromarkansas
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Cool.
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golden myc


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hmm.. that was about six months ago in the honey moon. re read if you need too. u did have a honeymoon, didn't u?...
re read and no smart ass replies needed.
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: golden myc]
#19286470 - 12/16/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok seriously how much do you way that you consider 3 grams a low dose dry right? If taken on an empty stomach with orange juice i can trip off half that. With an maoi ive tripped off of .8
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: golden myc]
#19286478 - 12/16/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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golden myc said: hmm.. that was about six months ago in the honey moon. re read if you need too. u did have a honeymoon, didn't u?...
re read and no smart ass replies needed.
Um honeymoon? If by that you mean did I ever use mushrooms to the point I did permanent damage to my body that ruined my ever enjoying them again? No.
Not being a smart ass, just wondering why anyone would do such a thing or even think it a good idea. If your honeymoons with other drugs have gone just as swimmingly I'd be willing to venture a guess that your brain is crying for mercy and would like you to treat it a little more kindly. I'm all for drug use but excess like that is going to fuck you up right quick.
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Notfromarkansas
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Even stranger you seriously talk to entities off of shrooms? I have ate a quarter and a half of dry shrooms and ya i was lost in thought but i have never seen entities even on ayahuasca.
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golden myc


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ok, well I weigh 217 lbs. and I had eaten recently.
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: golden myc]
#19286509 - 12/16/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well the weight sometimes has an effect although its more about metabolism wow im working on getting dmt crystals so i can see entities i want it so bad. Im jelly.
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Notfromarkansas said: Even stranger you seriously talk to entities off of shrooms? I have ate a quarter and a half of dry shrooms and ya i was lost in thought but i have never seen entities even on ayahuasca.
If you lay in the dark on a high dose with eyes closed you can get entities off shrooms. I have anyway. Definitely never seen any open eyed, but I have read trip reports where people claim it's possible. 
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golden myc said: ok, well I weigh 217 lbs. and I had eaten recently.
Ah, well, ok your doses aren't quite as ridiculous as I first thought then, but still, take it easy for a while and you'll probably get over it. Doing any chemical to the point that you lose consciousness is bad form and is going to cost you in the long run. Good luck.
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You should try smoking dmt then. open eye hallucination followed by closed eye hallucination gods geometry rainbows blackness im going to get there someday.
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i am considering trying dmt.
yes, too much chemical is bad for the brain, and yes, i did too much at first.
i believe these experiences can be obtained without chemicals and ultimaly that is my goal.
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Notfromarkansas said: You should try smoking dmt then. open eye hallucination followed by closed eye hallucination gods geometry rainbows blackness im going to get there someday.
Not really interested in smoked DMT, I have the caapi and bark to brew ayahuasca but so far I've been too fucking lazy to do go through all that trouble.
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golden myc


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thanks for the replies everyone.
i appreciate every ones support here.
hope i stop passing out
good luck with the brew if you ever get motivated to do it
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: golden myc]
#19286570 - 12/16/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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golden myc said: thanks for the replies everyone.
i appreciate every ones support here.
hope i stop passing out
good luck with the brew if you ever get motivated to do it
Thanks brother, good luck with the shrooms. Hope you can get back to the point where you enjoy them.
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me too. 
take care all.
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: golden myc]
#19287571 - 12/17/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Perhaps try taking a xanax on the come down to ease the severity. Not sure though...they can cause black outs on their own. Best bet...like others said...lay off for a while.
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#19288714 - 12/17/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think OPs crock full of shit.
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: golden myc]
#19289316 - 12/17/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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aside from the obvious reality that you need a break, the black out happens when the trails from all senses and mentation are too thickly layered for the mind to process anything.
at max dose this happens, over the max does this happens.
this can happen on no dose if you are emotional or concentrating for a while, or it can happen on a light dose if you are emotional or concentrating.
emotion and concentration also produce the layering or trails of thought and sensation.
amnesia, passing out and blackout are aspects of the same thing.
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: redgreenvines]
#19289441 - 12/17/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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redgreenvines said: aside from the obvious reality that you need a break, the black out happens when the trails from all senses and mentation are too thickly layered for the mind to process anything.
at max dose this happens,
over the max does this happens.
this can happen on no dose if you are emotional or concentrating for a while, or it can happen on a light dose if you are emotional or concentrating.
emotion and concentration also produce the layering or trails of thought and sensation.
amnesia, passing out and blackout are aspects of the same thing.
I thought 3 months off was a decent break.
I have been going through some tough stuff lately. I blacked out a few weeks ago when I was out with my wife at a bar on a date. I've blacked out sober before also during difficult times. ThAnks for the good info. I will look into it.
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: golden myc]
#19289683 - 12/17/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You black out without any drugs in your system? Have you considered visiting a neurologist? Your symptoms would have me worried. Just sayin.
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golden myc


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RiparianZoneJunky said: You black out without any drugs in your system? Have you considered visiting a neurologist? Your symptoms would have me worried. Just sayin. 
I've seen one, he said its common for super genius's like me. ...
It was 13 yrs ago when that happened sober. Just had a physical and all checks out great.
I really thought more people would have said they can relate.
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: golden myc]
#19290420 - 12/17/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Happened to my buddy twice one evening on a pretty hefty dose of shrooms. I saw him stumble while standing right beside the bon fire (we were camping back woods). I asked if he was alright and he said no. I asked him to step away from the fire and BAM, down he went like a brick. He was out for about 30 seconds. Scared the shit outta me. He got up, brushed himself off and said he was fine. About 20 minutes later it happened again--this time he was out considerably longer and he went stiff. Shit got crazy, contemplating how to get the guy outta the woods in the middle of the night. He has never passed out before and has no history of epilepsy. He said he could feel his blood pressure bottom out just prior to hitting the ground. I'm actually kind of afraid to trip with him again. We are really good, long time tripping buddies :-(
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: pslyke]
#19290740 - 12/17/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That would be a difficult situation, espically under the influence. And scary.
When he went stiff, the second time, did he shake at all or were his muscles just really tight?
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: golden myc]
#19291109 - 12/17/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had the same thing happen one morning. I had always been a night Tripper well one summer morning I had ate like 2.5 grams wet fresh from My cakes well I took a drive on the 4wheeler n all that few hours later at the coming Down part I sat down started getting chills I was white as a ghost n hit the ground smack After that I came back to reality an the trip was over lol
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: golden myc]
#19291926 - 12/18/13 05:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It was a 6 or 7g trip. We were in the come down--but not completely down yet. When he went stiff he did not shake. You could see his jaw clenched tightly and all the muscles in his neck straining. I rolled him over into the rescue position and it was difficult to do so because of how stiff he was. All I could think was 'wow, this is a fucked up situation'. We were a 4 hour canoe paddle from civilization. No cell phone reception! We both have a lot of experience back woods camping, but something like that is difficult to plan for.
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: pslyke]
#19292554 - 12/18/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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pslyke said: It was a 6 or 7g trip. We were in the come down--but not completely down yet. When he went stiff he did not shake. You could see his jaw clenched tightly and all the muscles in his neck straining. I rolled him over into the rescue position and it was difficult to do so because of how stiff he was. All I could think was 'wow, this is a fucked up situation'. We were a 4 hour canoe paddle from civilization. No cell phone reception! We both have a lot of experience back woods camping, but something like that is difficult to plan for.
Sounds like a seizure.
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: StoryTeller]
#19295246 - 12/18/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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StoryTeller said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17804681/page/5
I believe this has some info you would find relevant/helpful.
Thank u! That thread is very helpful!!!
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: golden myc]
#19297283 - 12/19/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not a problem I had the exact same issue and the people who responded in that thread were very helpful and knowledgeable. I always make sure I've eaten a balanced meal before tripping now.
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Re: blacking out ok but Passing out- What?? [Re: StoryTeller]
#19297433 - 12/19/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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StoryTeller said: Not a problem I had the exact same issue and the people who responded in that thread were very helpful and knowledgeable. I always make sure I've eaten a balanced meal before tripping now.
Nice, very interesting thread. At OP, if you're going to eat a full meal and beforehand you definitely want to do tea. Start with small doses though as if you're used to eating them the tea will hit you harder and stronger so you don't want to undo all the good you've done with eating beforehand by taking too strong a dose. Report back and tell us your results, I'm interested in seeing how this pans out for you.
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