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Hey folks! My name is Richard Fry. I don't break the law. Review my posts, it's cool.
I was aiming to start selling spores so I contacted the Shroomery about advertising.
Here's their response: Ticket ID: #9161 Subject: Re: Advertising Prices Assigned operator: Wiccan_Seeker Department: Advertising Inquiries Details: Thank you for your interest in advertising with us! We offer several options for publicizing your site:
First, you may add a FREE LINK to our links section at http://www.shroomery.org/6296/Vendors. To do so you must be registered on our BB, then read http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6130879 for instructions. Please note that our links section is not indexed by search engines so this will not help your page rank. However, it will provide an opportunity to share your site with interested members.
Next are CLASSIFIED ADS, which can be purchased and activated instantly online. These text ads are displayed across the entire site and include a prominent link which will be followed by search engines. This can be a good way to stretch your advertising budget, or test the waters before committing to a full sponsorship. Please see http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6377113 for more information about classifieds.
Finally, BANNER ADS will provide you with the most exposure and the most clicks. As of late 2013, the Shroomery receives about 1.25 million unique visitors and registers approximately two thousand new member accounts every month. With a loyal user-base of over 115,000 registered members, a continuous stream of new traffic, and high rankings for relevant Google keywords, we offer a profitable venue for you to market your products and increase your reach on the internet.
Our banner system is triple-tiered and billed at a flat monthly rate. Your realized monthly dues will be based upon the scope of your inventory in conjunction with how it relates to the target market at the Shroomery. For any vendor offering spores, the fee is $250 (US) per month. If you operate a smart shop or sell entheogens or cultivation supplies, the monthly fee is $200. There is also a $150 tier for sponsors who sell products unrelated to the site or at very low volumes (books, clothing, etcetera). There is no minimum contract, but if you prepay five months you get the sixth month free. Please also note that we now offer expanded advertising for our newest community web site, the Growery.org - inquire for details.
The banner package includes a 468 x 60 pixel banner ad which will be placed in rotation on the top and bottom of all Shroomery pages. Your business will also appear on our sponsor list at http://www.shroomery.org/sponsors.php, and you can gain additional exposure by placing a link in your signature and using our community's Sponsor Forum for announcements, promotions, contests and giveaways. You will also have access to our private Vendors Corner forum where vendors may discuss matters amongst themselves and site's administrators. Banners get roughly 1,000,000 impressions and anywhere from 1,000 - 3,000 click-throughs per month, depending on how well your product inventory correlates to the subject matter of our site, how eye catching your banner is, and how actively you promote your products within our community.
Our members count on us to accept only the most reputable advertising. All applications are rigorously reviewed, and we continuously monitor the performance of our sponsors. If at any time we receive information which indicates unethical business practices, illegal merchandise, poor product quality, or poor customer service, we will halt your advertising and issue a prorated refund.
Our application process requires a two month review period. To begin your application, please provide the following:
- Legal Name - Legal Address - Birthdate/SSN (for credit and criminal fraud check) - $50 non-refundable deposit (will apply towards first month's dues) - Business Name - Business Website Address - Business Mailing Address - 468 x 60 pixel Banner AD (max. 100K file size, flash animation OK) - Public Contact Email Address (for shroomery.org/sponsors.php) - Private Contact Email (for monthly AD invoices, if different) - Shroomery.org Forum Username (to be designated as Vendor)
You may email me directly at mike@shroomery.org, or send the above requested information through our encrypted Secure Private Message function, addressed to: geokills
Secure PM Information can be found here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4276278
Alternately, you may mail to: Mind Media, Inc. 849 Almar Ave C187 Santa Cruz, CA 95060
Questions? Just ask. Looking forward to having you on board!
OKAY so in my odd 13 years as an internet marketer, I HAVE NEVER HAD ANYONE REQUEST A BACKGROUND CHECK!!!! Not even Google!
What the fuck is this. It's bullshit is what it is!
I'm sorry guys but seriously, I'm not out to fuck anyone over but there is no fucking way I'm going to give some fucking hippies my social security number to run a background check on me to run some mother fucking banner ads!
2 Month wait time!?!?!?
How do you call this "doing business"??
WOULD ANYONE HERE WANT THE SHROOMERY DOING A BACKGROUND CHECK ON THEM?!?!?
It wouldn't prove shit!!!! Most scammers do not have a criminal record!!!!! It does not help anything here to run a BC!!!
This is a bullshit violation of my privacy.
Fuck this site. Only feds would do this.
I have worked with Google, Amazon, Neverblue, MaxBounty, MGCash, Cleanfiles, FileICE and MORE RESPECTABLE advertising networks and have NEVER needed a background check!!! Only my tax forms!!!
This is bullshit and not a good way to do business. Period. I'll be reporting this place to the BBB as well as every [anti]security group I'm affiliated with. This is horrible business.
NO YOU CANNOT RUN A Criminal/Credit Check!!!!!!! WTF?!?!?
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: tjshokk46] 2
#19286267 - 12/16/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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We don't want our users getting cheated by shady vendors. So yeah, we have to check this stuff out.
Don't like it? Log off.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Sell Your Soul] 1
#19286284 - 12/16/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Let's see your criminal and credit check eh ?
I mean, it's so acceptable, right?
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: tjshokk46] 1
#19286294 - 12/16/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nobody does a credit check. To check on a site's reputation is one thing. To run a criminal/credit check is another. It smells of "scam" all over. That shit is not kosher.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: tjshokk46]
#19286295 - 12/16/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not trying to sell you anything.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: tjshokk46]
#19286297 - 12/16/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Which company handles the credit checks? let everyone know so it's out in the open...
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: tjshokk46]
#19286304 - 12/16/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Doesn't need to be out in the open. Just want to assure our users that they won't get jacked.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: tjshokk46]
#19286307 - 12/16/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm just saying I've never worked with an ad network that did this shit. This reminds me of the fellow on craigslist selling apartments pushing MB CC to gain $$$ off his prospective buyers ..
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: tjshokk46]
#19286310 - 12/16/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Which company is it bro? You want the users to be safe? Let's be transparent!! Tell me who runs em and maybe I'll pay.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: tjshokk46]
#19286312 - 12/16/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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tjshokk46 said: Let's see your criminal and credit check eh ?
I mean, it's so acceptable, right?
Hes not trying to sell you anything, though.
And I'm pretty sure these days, anyone will want to run a background check on you. I was looking through an application for a job the other day and guess what, there was a waiver to hand over my SSN so they could check my credit and to see "what kind of person you are"
Try to relax, lol. No one is forcing you to do anything.
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#19286317 - 12/16/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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why the fuck is this in the pub?
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: VivaLaMushie] 1
#19286321 - 12/16/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude I work with multiple ad companies. I'm an internet marketer. Noone asks for a credit/background check. This is the shroomery. Do you really expect that everyone will be squeaky clean and want their dirt aired?
Who handles the checks!!!!???
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: tjshokk46] 1
#19286329 - 12/16/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I will negative SEO this site if you guys won't spill who it is ... Derank, Deserp ... You mods should know what that means if you have half a brain...
Who the fuck runs the checks?
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: tjshokk46]
#19286331 - 12/16/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why don't you take this into a PM with an admin?
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! (moved) [Re: tjshokk46]
#19286332 - 12/16/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This thread was moved from The Pub.
Reason: Putting this in a better spot.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: tjshokk46]
#19286336 - 12/16/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's only a violation of your privacy if they go behind your back and run the check aginst your will. If you choose to let them run it, it's not a violation of your privacy, and you can always just walk away and remain..... private.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Shroomslip] 1
#19286350 - 12/16/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why can't they just say who runs them? It's not like I'm asking for an admin password...
It's a simple question!
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Shroomslip] 1
#19286363 - 12/16/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomslip said: It's only a violation of your privacy if they go behind your back and run the check aginst your will. If you choose to let them run it, it's not a violation of your privacy, and you can always just walk away and remain..... private.
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Shroomslip said: It's only a violation of your privacy if they go behind your back and run the check aginst your will. If you choose to let them run it, it's not a violation of your privacy, and you can always just walk away and remain..... private.
Your IQ is clearly quite high. I love the relevance to my initial post!!! I was clearly concerned about the violation of my privacy from folks going behind my back! Thanks for noticing!!
I wasn't like trying to figure out what a DRUG board would be running CRIMINAL CHECKS or anything.
I'm glad you pay attention! Thanks!!!!
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#19286396 - 12/16/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asshole.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: VivaLaMushie] 1
#19286571 - 12/16/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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VivaLaMushie said:

Asshole.
Ya I'm sorry if I come off that way. I started this thread as a dick. I shouldn't have. Truly should not have ...
I do not need shroomery banner ads to make it but I see a lot of good people on here so I figured I'd check into it.
They Background/Credit check just kills me. Viva, even you wouldn't want this, you gotta know this man. If it weren't for the fee, I'd just go along with it. I would. I've nothing to hide. I'm just not up for pithing $50 on a BC/CC when they only cost TEN FUCKING DOLLARS!!!!
THE PRICE!!!
The shroomery is running a scam. Million to one, they're running through an affiliate network like MaxBounty.
There is no reason for the $50 price tag. ANY OF US could request a CC/BC ON ANY OF US for $10 MAX!!!
It's bad enough they're invading privacy (cough, feds) but the price leads me to believe it is NOT feds.
They are making money from the credit checks. This is not fucking cool, whatsoever. Sorry, it's eating at me ...
EDIT: Read the email ... They have knowledge of SERPS. Why would a drug forum know this? THEY ARE MARKETERS!!!!
Nobody knows shit about SERP unless they're marketing ... They shroomery is playing everyone.
No feds. Nothing like that. They're just out to make money off of you guys ..
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#19286833 - 12/17/13 01:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't be a dumbass. It costs money to run this site and keep it stable. Due to the nature of the site in general as well as the massive amount of traffic, the admins have to be extra careful who they do business with. The FEDs don't need your permission to run a background check. If you don't like it then don't do it.
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#19287016 - 12/17/13 03:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow, this is the first time I've ever seen someone throw a shit-fit about the (typically refundable) $50 deposit which we require from all new advertisers. The only time you wouldn't get your $50 back is if we decline your sponsor application, in which case we'd be turning down at least a guaranteed $150/month in recurring banner payments. If that's a scam it must be the most ill-conceived, short-sighted scam of all time. 
We used to use https://www.1-background-checks.com/ but I'm not sure if we still do since they don't cover Canada. You could PM geokills and ask; he's the one who takes care of vendor applications. Also, if you have a recommendation for a cheaper company to run credit and background checks, I'm sure he'd want to know.
In the distant past we've had some shady sponsors who disappeared without fulfilling all their orders. So, now we only approve sponsors who we personally stand behind and vouch for, and we drop sponsors if they no longer meet our standards. Obviously, we can't vouch for someone unless we've had time to review their business practices and verify that they don't have a history of related criminal activity. We have no interest in things like old DUIs, possession charges, probation violations, or anything which doesn't have a bearing on an individual's ability to conduct honest business. However, if someone wants to advertise with us but is currently in massive debt and has a recent history of theft or fraud, that raises a ton of red flags and we would probably decline to process their application further. We also need time to collect candid customer testimonials and place secret shopper orders in some cases to ensure that a new advertiser is a good fit.
I like this policy. I think it's the right thing to do and it's good for everyone. Our members know they can order from a Shroomery sponsor and they don't have to worry about getting ripped off. Our sponsors receive more business because prospective customers know they've been carefully vetted and shown to be trustworthy. And we protect the site's reputation, and increase the value of banner space on the Shroomery because all ads come with our implicit endorsement. The only people who don't benefit are scam artists who would hope to make a quick buck off our members. Or advertisers who don't care about having a "relationship" with the site and just want to get started right away with minimal expense, but we have classified ads for that.
I'm sorry you don't feel like the Shroomery is a good fit for your needs, but it sounds like you have lots of experience with ad buys so you shouldn't have any trouble finding other sites with terms more to your liking. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors and I apologize if you feel like you wasted your time here!
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#19287187 - 12/17/13 05:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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tjshokk46 said: They're just out to make money off of you guys ..
WOW...Ya think?
Are you seriously telling us that Mind Media Corp, a for-profit corporation operating two websites is trying to make money? Whodathunkit?
Lucky for us, advertisers like yourself would never have a profit motive.
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tjshokk46 said: They're just out to make money off of you guys ..
WOW...Ya think?
Are you seriously telling us that Mind Media Corp, a for-profit corporation operating two websites is trying to make money? Whodathunkit?
Lucky for us, advertisers like yourself would never have a profit motive.
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#19288107 - 12/17/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm surprised the ad prices are so low.
And encouraged that the Shroomery takes such a hard line on preventing scammers. Obviously spore buyers are uniquely vulnerable to scams, as the avenues to comfortably address a ripoff are limited. Shroomery members need the Shroomery to police sponsors.
And anyone with a background in affiliate/CPA advertising is waving a huge red flag anyway. It's basically a background in scamming. Add to that the threats this guy made to damage the Shroomery with black-hat techniques and it appears that the introductory email did its job perfectly -- it kept this asshole off the Sponsor page, and Shroomery members safe from whatever schemes he had in mind.
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#19288729 - 12/17/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am glad this guy is not going to become a sponsor.
If this is how he acts when conducting business I want nothing to do with him and I'm glad the shroomery doesn't either.
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First time Have ever found the butt hurt crrybaby thread useful.
seriously though ? This website is an invaluable resource for some, I really Don't think asking for your money to advertise is asking too much.
after all you can come here for free anytime and learn the stuff here.
If I ran a site with this much info, I would charge monthly membership and those who don 't pay can't access the forums.
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indocult said: First time Have ever found the butt hurt crrybaby thread useful.
seriously though ? This website is an invaluable resource for some, I really Don't think asking for your money to advertise is asking too much.
it wasn't about the money re-read da thread
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: k00laid]
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That's not entirely true. He did complain about the cost of the credit check.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: tjshokk46]
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tjshokk46 said: OKAY so in my odd 13 years as an internet marketer, I HAVE NEVER HAD ANYONE REQUEST A BACKGROUND CHECK!!!! Not even Google!
What the fuck is this. It's bullshit is what it is!
I'm sorry guys but seriously, I'm not out to fuck anyone over but there is no fucking way I'm going to give some fucking hippies my social security number to run a background check on me to run some mother fucking banner ads!
2 Month wait time!?!?!?
How do you call this "doing business"??
WOULD ANYONE HERE WANT THE SHROOMERY DOING A BACKGROUND CHECK ON THEM?!?!?
It wouldn't prove shit!!!! Most scammers do not have a criminal record!!!!! It does not help anything here to run a BC!!!
This is a bullshit violation of my privacy.
Fuck this site. Only feds would do this.
I have worked with Google, Amazon, Neverblue, MaxBounty, MGCash, Cleanfiles, FileICE and MORE RESPECTABLE advertising networks and have NEVER needed a background check!!! Only my tax forms!!!
This is bullshit and not a good way to do business. Period. I'll be reporting this place to the BBB as well as every [anti]security group I'm affiliated with. This is horrible business.
NO YOU CANNOT RUN A Criminal/Credit Check!!!!!!! WTF?!?!?
How do they do that without your drivers license or SSN anyways?
Honestly, Shroomey is B.S. when it comes to anonymity. I have a feeling they give up any info on anyone at the drop of a hat by the DEA or FBI. In fact the only way to prevent such a divulgence of info is not to store it at all.
And, Shroomery doesn't allow for VPN or Tor , so what does that leave us with?
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teknix said: And, Shroomery doesn't allow for VPN or Tor , so what does that leave us with?
When did this site turn into Silk Road? Were you planning on conducting illegal drug deals on here? We don't allow that - it's clearly against our rules. So there's no reason to offer a VPN or Tor, ya know? If you want to do illegal drug trades and such, try somewhere else.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Sell Your Soul]
#19309902 - 12/21/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said: And, Shroomery doesn't allow for VPN or Tor , so what does that leave us with?
When did this site turn into Silk Road? Were you planning on conducting illegal drug deals on here? We don't allow that - it's clearly against our rules. So there's no reason to offer a VPN or Tor, ya know? If you want to do illegal drug trades and such, try somewhere else.
Thanks!
Sorry, you made all that up on your own, I just like my freedom.
I can think of a couple good reasons to include anonymity, including people personal safety and defying the cops.
I mean, the shroomery would have to store IP's to determine if someone is logging in on a puppet or not, so you are subject to subpeona of all your data and incriminating evidence (if you have any) on people. The way to get around that is not to store it, like VPN's do.
The thing is that you don't really need to know who I am or anyone else is, what is it of your concern?
Edited by teknix (12/21/13 11:21 PM)
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teknix
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Ythan]
#19309959 - 12/21/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ythan said: Wow, this is the first time I've ever seen someone throw a shit-fit about the (typically refundable) $50 deposit which we require from all new advertisers.
I don't think it is the deposit he is throwing a shit-fit about, but the lack of concern for the users/vendors privacy.
How did Ralph and Ralphsters get around your process? I know he was security conscious and not very likely to give up personal info.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: teknix]
#19328377 - 12/26/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said: I can think of a couple good reasons to include anonymity, including people personal safety and defying the cops.
I can only think of two: you have a big mouth, which will relate to your paranoia, which is reason 2.
Growing mushrooms is not illegal. Manufacturing psilocybin and/or psilocin is. If you're paranoid, ask about dung-lovers in general. That's what we should all be doing anyway instead of focusing on one species.
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I mean, the shroomery would have to store IP's to determine if someone is logging in on a puppet or not, so you are subject to subpeona of all your data and incriminating evidence (if you have any) on people. The way to get around that is not to store it, like VPN's do.
The thing is that you don't really need to know who I am or anyone else is, what is it of your concern?
Ever ran a website? Or modded one? You watch how many spammers get onto a site this big and tell me you don't need to monitor who registers. I haven't been a part of anything nearly this big before but that was hard enough. I couldn't even enjoy the forums for all the bullshit.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: 36fuckin5] 5
#19329085 - 12/26/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't understand how you feel that you have the right to report this site to anybody. Your tantrum is also childish and unbecoming of somebody who claims to be a man of business.
I'm sure you know this already, but there is nothing that forces the shroomery to do business. The same applies the other way. The shroomery cannot force you do business with them. Remember, you are the vendor that wants to sell something through their site. Just because some of the bigger companies can afford to waive these types of procedures and fees does't mean every company will.
Google, amazon, ect... have an extravagant amount of money and resources at their disposal. Besides capital, they have contracts for things such as shipping and data. These are at a considerable discount due to the sheer volume of product that they move on a day-to-day basis.
I will put it in simpler terms for you since you haven't quite understood judging by your childish posts. I walk into a retail store. They have a product that I want at a set price of $400. I want the product at $300, but the store is not obligated to give it to me at this price. Sure, they would probably sell many more units at the cost of $300, but they choose not to. Since I am not happy about it, I am also not obligated to purchase it at the $400 price point just because I am in their store. I don't like it, so I shop somewhere else.
Since you are a supposedly well known marketer, I'm sure you already know the basics of what it means to offer a service. If agreeable terms are not met, one side or both sides have the right to decline a business deal. You don't like the terms of the deal, and that is completely understandable if you can get what you want from someplace else, but you have the right to not apply and not do business. Shroomery has this very same right, and I'm sure after your threats and insults, they will probably deny your application.
Quit wasting your time and their time. Find somebody else to host your services Richard Fry.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Cheezymold] 3
#19330677 - 12/26/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The threat to report the shroomery to the BBB is what tipped me off and angered me. I work for a major tech company and the only people that ever threaten to report us to the BBB (we have an A+ rating), are self-entitled scumbags who think the world revolves around them and they always get what they want, when they want.. their way OR ELSE. OR it's just straight up scammers who weren't able to pull a fast one on us so they make a false report. They want us to bend policy and make special exceptions for them that we don't for anyone. People like making such threats to try and get their way. Unfortunately for them, it never works out the way they demand and their false BBB reports get shitcanned. We are world renowned for having the best customer support in the industry and we will bend over backwards to help our customers in 99% of situations. It's when you start yelling and making threats and demanding we change our policy just for YOU, that we put up the brick wall.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Ythan] 6
#19331415 - 12/27/13 01:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ythan said: Wow, this is the first time I've ever seen someone throw a shit-fit about the (typically refundable) $50 deposit which we require from all new advertisers. The only time you wouldn't get your $50 back is if we decline your sponsor application, in which case we'd be turning down at least a guaranteed $150/month in recurring banner payments. If that's a scam it must be the most ill-conceived, short-sighted scam of all time. 
We used to use https://www.1-background-checks.com/ but I'm not sure if we still do since they don't cover Canada. You could PM geokills and ask; he's the one who takes care of vendor applications. Also, if you have a recommendation for a cheaper company to run credit and background checks, I'm sure he'd want to know.
In the distant past we've had some shady sponsors who disappeared without fulfilling all their orders. So, now we only approve sponsors who we personally stand behind and vouch for, and we drop sponsors if they no longer meet our standards. Obviously, we can't vouch for someone unless we've had time to review their business practices and verify that they don't have a history of related criminal activity. We have no interest in things like old DUIs, possession charges, probation violations, or anything which doesn't have a bearing on an individual's ability to conduct honest business. However, if someone wants to advertise with us but is currently in massive debt and has a recent history of theft or fraud, that raises a ton of red flags and we would probably decline to process their application further. We also need time to collect candid customer testimonials and place secret shopper orders in some cases to ensure that a new advertiser is a good fit.
I like this policy. I think it's the right thing to do and it's good for everyone. Our members know they can order from a Shroomery sponsor and they don't have to worry about getting ripped off. Our sponsors receive more business because prospective customers know they've been carefully vetted and shown to be trustworthy. And we protect the site's reputation, and increase the value of banner space on the Shroomery because all ads come with our implicit endorsement. The only people who don't benefit are scam artists who would hope to make a quick buck off our members. Or advertisers who don't care about having a "relationship" with the site and just want to get started right away with minimal expense, but we have classified ads for that.
I'm sorry you don't feel like the Shroomery is a good fit for your needs, but it sounds like you have lots of experience with ad buys so you shouldn't have any trouble finding other sites with terms more to your liking. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors and I apologize if you feel like you wasted your time here!
I love Ythan's calm tone. It's so effortless and embarrasses people to the point of not even wanting to return and post to their own shit-flinging fiesta.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
#19332452 - 12/27/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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he does flame with class.
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teknix
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Taco Chef]
#19334039 - 12/27/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good points.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: teknix]
#19335863 - 12/28/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh shit guys, he blew the lid off this one, BLACK HELICOPTERS AND SHIT, following me all day!
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Disco Forever]
#19335931 - 12/28/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: setb]
#19351691 - 12/31/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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It seems a little over the top for running a banner ad but they do want to avoid ripoffs. However, i don't see what a credit and background check would do to prevent that? Bernie maddoff had a perfect record, up to the time he got busted.
I have refused to use a dentist before because they demanded my ss number. I went elsewhere and they asked for it but did not make a fuss and i got my dental work done. Its not because i thought the other dentist was a scammer, it was because i don't want my personal info out there. Those offices have lots of people in them and some might be temps. Anyone could access your data plus the threat of hacks. Even target with its big IT department got hacked, the us government gets hacked a lot.
I walk away from those who demand such info unless its a bank or required by law. There are always other dentists, other places you can run a banner. So don't get mad at the shroomery, use your freedom of choice and perhaps some day they will come up with a system more comfortable to advertisers.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Stonehenge]
#19351935 - 12/31/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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On another note, hemostats I have never seen you post before. your avatar is disturbing
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Taco Chef]
#19393981 - 01/09/14 02:37 PM (10 years, 21 days ago) |
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novum said: he does flame with class.
Correction, inform, not flame.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: teknix]
#19663156 - 03/07/14 12:22 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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teknix said: And, Shroomery doesn't allow for VPN or Tor , so what does that leave us with?
Wait a minute, how does the Shroomery not allow the use of VPNs? I thought the nature of VPNs was to serve as an artifical identity that wholly replaces your actual digital identity.
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Acidic_Sloth
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: s240779]
#19666274 - 03/08/14 03:51 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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i think it's that you can't register using a VPN or Tor. i could be wrong. it happens sometimes.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
#19668191 - 03/08/14 03:42 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've tried logging on using Tor before and it wouldn't let me
But I found a work around that uses the Tor network that allows me to use and log into the shroomery from places that block it(restraunts, hospitals, etc...)
Never tried using a VPN though.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
#19670002 - 03/08/14 11:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Acidic_Sloth said: i think it's that you can't register using a VPN or Tor. i could be wrong. it happens sometimes.
TOR has a signature and is relatively easy to detect and block. When it comes to VPNs, you'll find some lists with IP ranges for more commercial services, but when I first registered my (still inactive) grow puppet I had no issues at all.
Lurkers, Trolls, et al.: I'm not sharing the service I use, so don't ask.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
#19670012 - 03/08/14 11:17 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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ahhh, that makes sense.
i don't know much about TOR, never used it or anything like that. it would probably depend on the VPN you use to register, i guess. i know Ythan and Co. have put in a lot of effort to make it difficult for people to create undetectable puppets for trolling.
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
#19689885 - 03/13/14 09:17 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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So is he a sponsor or not?
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Re: My name is Richard Fry. I WILL NOT LET YOU RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK! [Re: Patlal]
#19690415 - 03/13/14 11:32 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I doubt it based from the title
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