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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19278867 - 12/15/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Why would you have faith in the younger generation? The members of my generation that have been teaching them for the last several decades are failures and cowards hiding behind a false notion of tenure. The younger generation seems to be completely wrapped up in what it wants to do and doesn't much grasp the idea that there are things you have to do to survive.





Every previous generation always says that about the new generations. People were saying that in the '30s and '40s about you, that you were good for nothing druggies who listened to Satan's music. Take a look at this quote that was said about young adults in the 1970's:

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"They are more interested in climbing Mt Everest than climbing the corporate ladder. They've never punched a time clock. They have no idea what it's like to actually be in an office at nine o'clock, with people handing them work."






I knew this was coming but I have stats to back me up.  See above post in re Failure to Launch.  The economy was worse in 1979 (year I graduated) than it is now and we didn't move back home to mommy in droves.


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #19278899 - 12/15/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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And if you actually read my post you would realise I have no issue with old white males, I have an issue with the fact that they make up the majority of almost every democracies government, which is an inaccurate representation of the counties population.

How can you expect the government to provide for the wants and needs of a diverse population when it is majorly made up of a single  demographic?




You want quotas?  Do you know why they make up most of the elected leaders?  Because they are perceived as competent by the electorate.  After Obama that perception should increase..  I don't think anybody gets elected because they are Caucasian, anymore, but I know quite a few Negroes do.  Sheila Jackson Lee and Obama are two that come to mind.  Both utter incompetents.


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19278914 - 12/15/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)


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elax420 said:
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zappaisgod said:
Why would you have faith in the younger generation? The members of my generation that have been teaching them for the last several decades are failures and cowards hiding behind a false notion of tenure. The younger generation seems to be completely wrapped up in what it wants to do and doesn't much grasp the idea that there are things you have to do to survive.






At some point there were plenty of old ass guys that said the same thing about the guys who started all the software companies




Are you really trying to extend the accomplishments of the very few in a generation I was not talking about to all of its members.  Gates, Jobs, etc are from MY generation.  The later generation gave us, yipee, Facebook. 
Record numbers of college students in useless degree programs and record number of 20 somethings living with mommy and daddy.  The Failure to Launch generation.
You might also note that I put the blame for the situation on MY generation


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19280251 - 12/15/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Why would you have faith in the younger generation?  The members of my generation that have been teaching them for the last several decades are failures and cowards hiding behind a false notion of tenure.  Then you have the contributions of the opt out news media which is almost overwhelmingly liberal to go along with sycophantic hypocrites in the entertainment media.  The younger generation has been sold a lie about what is and is not conservative by the enemy and this has engendered a complete lack of consideration of the real ramifications of encouraging and supporting those who will not work.  Work is not play.  The younger generation seems to be completely wrapped up in what it wants to do and doesn't much grasp the idea that there are things you have to do to survive.

This conservative doesn't think the government should be involved in either sanctioning or penalizing any marriage.  That goes for the tax code especially.  The only role government should have in marriage is to adjudicate its dissolution just as it does in any other contract dispute.  I also believe that the nuclear family is the most effective form of social arrangement for the parties involved.  The liberals are actively encouraging its dissolution through the welfare state and have been for decades.  How's that working out?  Drugs?  Liberals want to prohibit big sodas.  What drugs would you release from prohibition?  This conservative would release them all.  You should have the freedom to fuck yourself up and I should not be forced to help you if you do so.  My sole duty should be to inform you that they may be harmful to your health.  After that it is up to you.  Go ahead and snort Peru.  I don't give a fuck.  Abortion?  I have no conflict on this issue.  Up to viability (which is going to continue to change) they should be permitted.  That doesn't mean they should be funded by the government.  There is no conflict for me because I am an atheist but every abortion supporter who professes a religious belief in the soul is a fucking hypocrite.

I don't give a fuck about open-mindedness.  I give a fuck about what the government is doing to stifle freedotime
d control our lives.  It is largely being done by liberals.




Somehow I missed this entire post when I was going through the responses the first time :stoned:

Every single thing you said, excluding the younger generation stuff (not because I disagree but because I think that while on the whole my generation is full of lazy fucking retards, some of the rest are doing amazing things) I agree with. I think that whether I agree with it personally or not, people have a right to do whatever the fuck they want to themselves, but they shouldn't expect help if they do.

In my opinion (whether it would work in practicality or not), there should be a public healthcare system similar to the one in Australia but it should be similar to a warranty. You start out with full coverage, if you choose to smoke for any length of time of say, a month or more? You immediately void your coverage of any disease, illness or anything at all that has been linked to smoking. If you choose to be a fucking fat ass and treat your body like shit eating maccas all day and never exercising, you forfeit your coverage for anything that has been linked (by scientific study) to that lifestyle. But if you just trip down the stairs and break your arm through no fault of your own, I'll gladly send you some of my tax dollars to help out.


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19284497 - 12/16/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Crystal G said:
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zappaisgod said:
Why would you have faith in the younger generation? The members of my generation that have been teaching them for the last several decades are failures and cowards hiding behind a false notion of tenure. The younger generation seems to be completely wrapped up in what it wants to do and doesn't much grasp the idea that there are things you have to do to survive.





Every previous generation always says that about the new generations. People were saying that in the '30s and '40s about you, that you were good for nothing druggies who listened to Satan's music. Take a look at this quote that was said about young adults in the 1970's:

Quote:

"They are more interested in climbing Mt Everest than climbing the corporate ladder. They've never punched a time clock. They have no idea what it's like to actually be in an office at nine o'clock, with people handing them work."






I knew this was coming but I have stats to back me up.  See above post in re Failure to Launch.  The economy was worse in 1979







Well no shit. Thanks for the history lesson there. The economy is at an all time high right now....................


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: elax420]
    #19284510 - 12/16/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What are you on and will you send me some?


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19284518 - 12/16/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What are you on and will you send me some?



No hookup requests.

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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19284530 - 12/16/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Crystal G said:
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zappaisgod said:
Why would you have faith in the younger generation? The members of my generation that have been teaching them for the last several decades are failures and cowards hiding behind a false notion of tenure. The younger generation seems to be completely wrapped up in what it wants to do and doesn't much grasp the idea that there are things you have to do to survive.





Every previous generation always says that about the new generations. People were saying that in the '30s and '40s about you, that you were good for nothing druggies who listened to Satan's music. Take a look at this quote that was said about young adults in the 1970's:

Quote:

"They are more interested in climbing Mt Everest than climbing the corporate ladder. They've never punched a time clock. They have no idea what it's like to actually be in an office at nine o'clock, with people handing them work."






I knew this was coming but I have stats to back me up.  See above post in re Failure to Launch.  The economy was worse in 1979 (year I graduated) than it is now and we didn't move back home to mommy in droves.




"The economy was worse in 1979 than it is now"

Not a chance in hell, 79 was a party compared to today.


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: TrentBoyett] * 1
    #19284561 - 12/16/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
What are you on and will you send me some?



No hookup requests.

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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: qman]
    #19284604 - 12/16/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
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zappaisgod said:
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Crystal G said:
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zappaisgod said:
Why would you have faith in the younger generation? The members of my generation that have been teaching them for the last several decades are failures and cowards hiding behind a false notion of tenure. The younger generation seems to be completely wrapped up in what it wants to do and doesn't much grasp the idea that there are things you have to do to survive.





Every previous generation always says that about the new generations. People were saying that in the '30s and '40s about you, that you were good for nothing druggies who listened to Satan's music. Take a look at this quote that was said about young adults in the 1970's:

Quote:

"They are more interested in climbing Mt Everest than climbing the corporate ladder. They've never punched a time clock. They have no idea what it's like to actually be in an office at nine o'clock, with people handing them work."






I knew this was coming but I have stats to back me up.  See above post in re Failure to Launch.  The economy was worse in 1979 (year I graduated) than it is now and we didn't move back home to mommy in droves.




"The economy was worse in 1979 than it is now"

Not a chance in hell, 79 was a party compared to today.



Uhhh, no it wasn't.  It was worse.  Double digit inflation and 3.2% growth followed by negative growth in 1980


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19285251 - 12/16/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: elax420]
    #19285258 - 12/16/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Fuck nevermind i dont feel like ranting


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: elax420]
    #19285274 - 12/16/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wallstreet absofuckinglutly loves the Fed's QE program, however, it's only creating the biggest bubble the world has ever seen. It's fake, it's meaningless.


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: setb]
    #19285292 - 12/16/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes it is absolutely meaningless to people that fail to capitalize on it. What I told Zappa was spot on and that was the only point of posting it.

Feel free to talk about Ron Paul and the gold standard all you want now.


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: elax420]
    #19285314 - 12/16/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The Dow and the S&P are NOT the economy. 

http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/06/news/economy/labor-force-participation/

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Labor participation lowest since 1978




GDP growth short of population growth.  Federal deficits in the hundreds of billions of dollars every year totaling 17T at his point and rising.  Record numbers of people on food stamps.  Do you contemplate anything beyond your navel and sports related vitriol?


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19285327 - 12/16/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ill give you points for making the conservative argument about employment in the conservative thread, thats it though.


Step up your game brahhh


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: elax420]
    #19285344 - 12/16/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What I told Zappa was spot on and that was the only point of posting it.






I am going to do you a favor.  You wrote
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The economy is at an all time high right now....................




Then you posted some stats about the Dow (which is NOT at an all time high inflation adjusted, by the way) and the S&P.  I have no idea where it is historically.  Don't care.  If you think the DJI equals the economy you are stunningly ignorant.  It most certainly does not.  It is one small part of the economy.  The rest is for shit and the market is being propped up by the Fed.  I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing, although it might be, but it sure doesn't mean shit to anybody who doesn't play and is out of work.


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19285364 - 12/16/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Dude i said the Economy is at an all time high.


IS the stock market not at an all time high (check chart) oh it is..... who said anything about inflation? Its kinda funny how when the stock market has hiccups “the sky is falling” when its at an all time high “eh doesn’t mean shit” I don’t know if you do for sure but by far and large the majority of the population gauges the economy by how the market performs.


You know employment numbers are bullshit, actually you probably don’t because you took psych... but employment numbers don’t account for everybody.


And if its not at its best point now, when was it?


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: elax420]
    #19285441 - 12/16/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Dude i said the Economy is at an all time high.


IS the stock market not at an all time high (check chart) oh it is..... who said anything about inflation?


  When the dollar is adjusted for inflation the DJIA is not at an all time high. 
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Its kinda funny how when the stock market has hiccups “the sky is falling”


You didn't hear that from me
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when its at an all time high “eh doesn’t mean shit” I don’t know if you do for sure but by far and large the majority of the population gauges the economy by how the market performs.




No, they don't.  They gauge it on whether they have a job, how many hours they get, how much it pays and how much they can buy. 
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You know employment numbers are bullshit, actually you probably don’t because you took psych... but employment numbers don’t account for everybody.


The UNemployment numbers don't account for everybody since they don't count people who have given up looking for work.  Total employment does.  We have a record number of people not in the work force and a record number of part time employees.
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And if its not at its best point now, when was it?




It sure as shit isn't now but since you suck DJIA cock, 1998
http://www.thereformedbroker.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/chart.jpg


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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19285785 - 12/16/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nice work with google finding out about unemployment. Dude there is no perfect measure, but the stock market is a pretty damn good measure of how well the economy is performing, you can’t argue that.

"No, they don't.  They gauge it on whether they have a job"
You made a classical conservative argument in a conservative thread :kaneclap:

Were not really even arguing anything at this point so i guess this is over.


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