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Pope Francis is a Poseur
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I've seen those great photo ops about him kissing the deformed people. I'm so totally sure those happened spontaneously.
The ecopopemobile - wowow - fucking fantastic, or something.
Even nonpapists are like whoa.
Here's what scares me. If say he doesn't masturbate and has nocturnal emissions instead, which is a fact of malehood, then what sort of dream sets them off?
I mean, before he was Christ - the representative of the Messiah, on Earth, he was a mere mortal.
He literally is a poseur of The Annointed.
Okay fuck all of you you poseur worshipping geeks. Pick it apart and burn me alive.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: eve69] 1
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then what sort of dream sets them off?
Nothing special.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: Icelander]
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Do nuns shave their bush? Their legs? If not that's kind of hot. I like both extremes, and a few middle of the extremes too - you know - landing strip.... women who don't shave at all are quite a bit more savory.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: Icelander] 2
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im no catholic sympathetic, but this current pope is really setting an example. I definitely have more respect for the catholic church now that they have put him in. I think you would be hard pressed to find a fault of his, especially in contrast to the vile, lecherous assholes they have had in there the last couple centuries.
he brought much needed piety back to the position of pope and I am a fan of his.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: eve69]
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eve69 said: Do nuns shave their bush? Their legs? If not that's kind of hot. I like both extremes, and a few middle of the extremes too - you know - landing strip.... women who don't shave at all are quite a bit more savory.
I don't mind a slight trim job if they are exceptionally hairy but otherwise all natural is my motto. Shaved pussy's are all right if you're into 13 (physically and mentally) year olds but not my thing.
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Pick it apart?
OK. The Pope is mortal. He isn't some transformation of Christ; he's a man who is elected head of the Catholic Church by a bunch of other guys. He'll have faults and flaws as every other human being does. OMG, he'll even splooge his bed in his sleep like plenty of guys do, because he's just a guy.
It just so happens that he's a mostly down to earth, fairly good guy when compared with the rest of us schlubs; even if we're pretty good people. By comparison to the Popes I can recall, he's downright amazing. Under the past 3 papal regimes, the church has been involved in a whole lot of monetary malfeasance, litigation, and diocese swapping involving kiddie diddler priests. All the while, the Pope sat back and claimed plausable deniability in the the entire saga, although records seem to prove that even the ever beloved JP2 knew exactly what was going on while sitting upon his gilded throne.
Pope Francis so far seems to be a genuine man of the people. He denounced the traditional washing of a Cardinal's feet at the basilica in lieu of going to a juvenile detention center and washing the feet of wayward youths. He had the gilded papal throne removed and replaced with a wooden chair, because it better represents the chair of a carpenter. He doesn't wear the formal papal vestments because they aren't the clothes of a simple priest. He still wears his black trousers and shoes to remind himself he is, at his core, still just a priest. He suspended the Bishop of Limberg and the local Council of Bishops is making the monetary decisions as to how the mansion he built with misappropriated funds will be repurposed; potentially as a homeless shelter and free kitchen. All this while refusing to live in the lavish papal quarters or have a chauffeur shuttle him about in the bulletproof Popemobile. I don't think the photos of him doing these things are staged; personally, I believe he's just a good man doing what he thinks is right for the Church he obviously loves enough to attempt to reform from the top down.
If the dude soils his popejamas once in a while, he probably goes to confession about it.
I'll be very disappointed if we find out later on that he's actually just as horrible as the last lot of them.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: CliftonGK1]
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It's hard for me to believe that a guy like you are describing could make it to the top of that corrupt organization. I'll withhold judgment for a little while and hope for a miracle.
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I definitely have more respect for the catholic church now that they have put him in.
Me too but I think the guy is going to get lynched by his bishops if he keeps this up. Many of them are already deeply pissed off at him.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: CliftonGK1]
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CliftonGK1 said: I'll be very disappointed if we find out later on that he's actually just as horrible as the last lot of them.
I wouldn't hold out too much hope. How many kiddie fiddlers has he forced to face justice before the secular courts? How much of the looted Vatican treasure has he returned?
Zero and none. All we get is some nice pictures.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: eve69]
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eve69 said: I've seen those great photo ops about him kissing the deformed people. I'm so totally sure those happened spontaneously.
The ecopopemobile - wowow - fucking fantastic, or something.
Even nonpapists are like whoa.
Here's what scares me. If say he doesn't masturbate and has nocturnal emissions instead, which is a fact of malehood, then what sort of dream sets them off?
I mean, before he was Christ - the representative of the Messiah, on Earth, he was a mere mortal.
He literally is a poseur of The Annointed.
Okay fuck all of you you poseur worshipping geeks. Pick it apart and burn me alive.
Starting the fire now.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: viktor]
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I wouldn't hold out too much hope. How many kiddie fiddlers has he forced to face justice before the secular courts? How much of the looted Vatican treasure has he returned?
Zero and none. All we get is some nice pictures.
I think it's mostly PR also.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: Icelander]
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Here's my 2 cents.
Jesus got crucified, act like Jesus and you'll end up that way too. The pope is well on his way for a crucifixion.
I like him. He is doing good things.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: Icelander] 1
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Well what makes me suspicious is, as was mentioned above, he climbed up through the ranks of the Vatican to get to the Papacy. Either he's not what he appears to be or he played his cards really, really close to his chest for about 40 years.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: viktor] 1
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I don't even think the guy knew he was up for consideration. plus he was considered such a longshot it was insignificant. He forgot to cancel his newspaper subscription and personally called the guy he got his paper from in argentina from the vatican to tell him. he used to bring the rubber bands around his newspaper back to the guy in the kiosk that delivered his paper.
there are already many stories of this guys humbleness and being just an all around good person. From what i can surmise, Francis is the real deal. He is one of those few people that lives as strongly as he believes. atheists can roll their eyes at that, but the guy is good and i would actually listen to anything he had to say with an open mind as opposed to cringing at some nazi fuck drone out rhetoric.
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Then why would a bunch of likely corrupted ass hats vote him in?
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He seems alright compared to the popes of yore, but the very concept of the position that he occupies is laughable to me.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: Icelander]
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not really much to corrupt. sure the catholic church has a lot of financial interests, but they have hardly any power or political sway. The papacy has been put in its rightful place as being nothing more than a spiritual court for the dwindling number of people who ascribe to their doctrine.
I don't see some cabal hell bent on making every tongue confess and every knee bend. If anything, they are in crisis mode, and electing Jesuit Mr. Rodgers was a self serving move for PR and financial gains.
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SneezingPenis said: not really much to corrupt. sure the catholic church has a lot of financial interests, but they have hardly any power or political sway. The papacy has been put in its rightful place as being nothing more than a spiritual court for the dwindling number of people who ascribe to their doctrine.
I don't see some cabal hell bent on making every tongue confess and every knee bend. If anything, they are in crisis mode, and electing Jesuit Mr. Rodgers was a self serving move for PR and financial gains.
Could be, time will tell. I'd rather let them fall into the dustbin of obscurity myself. It's better than they deserve.
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Re: Pope Francis is a Poseur [Re: Icelander]
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CliftonGK1 said: Pope Francis so far seems to be a genuine man of the people. He denounced the traditional washing of a Cardinal's feet at the basilica in lieu of going to a juvenile detention center and washing the feet of wayward youths. He had the gilded papal throne removed and replaced with a wooden chair, because it better represents the chair of a carpenter. He doesn't wear the formal papal vestments because they aren't the clothes of a simple priest. He still wears his black trousers and shoes to remind himself he is, at his core, still just a priest. He suspended the Bishop of Limberg and the local Council of Bishops is making the monetary decisions as to how the mansion he built with misappropriated funds will be repurposed; potentially as a homeless shelter and free kitchen. All this while refusing to live in the lavish papal quarters or have a chauffeur shuttle him about in the bulletproof Popemobile. I don't think the photos of him doing these things are staged; personally, I believe he's just a good man doing what he thinks is right for the Church he obviously loves enough to attempt to reform from the top down.
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I am of same position as Ice. I am highly suspicious of as to how he got to become pope. Especially since becoming pope is such a tricky business where many many people have to give you the green light- was he just kissing ass all his life hoping he could get to reveal his true colours as pope? I genuinely hope so. But for now I'm watching closely. This could all be a prelude to something bad and I know this sounds paranoid, but how do I know how genuine his actions are? This might as well be a publicity stunt. Besides the pope changing his lifestyle so give symbolic example to others- has the church actually been changing its policies on the more important and controversial matters? Such as homosexuals? Such as its feud with scientific and non-deist communities? The pedo problem? (these are genuine questiosn btw, does anyone have a list of his good deeds or smtn?) Is the pope actually doing anything besides putting on a touching show? Don't get me wrong, I hope this guy is genuine, but I suggest everyone to keep their eyes peeled and don't let the good-guy-pope act distract you too much from the big picture...
Not because it's a matter of christianity. I'd advise to observe everything on the political world stage i this light
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The fact is that it makes no sense whatsoever. Nobody who's been around the block a couple of times won't see the red flags. The true believer will see this as absolute proof but if it goes bad will soon forget it and replace it with the next absolute proof. Politics works in this same fashion and between religion and politics I can see the abject immaturity if the human species. I hold out almost no hope. 
Hey dude, ride the snake to the lake, the ancient lake.
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I am highly suspicious of as to how he got to become pope.
Too simple. They picked a man from the area with the fastest growing population of Catholics to keep the sheep and $$$ coming in.
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1. He picked a great name Once Jorge Mario Bergoglio cinched the papal conclave's vote for new pope, it was time for him to announce his new name. Of all the regal papal names to choose from, he opted for Francis. The name pays tribute to St. Francis of Assisi, a 13th-century Catholic friar who showed a great love for animals — he called birds "his sisters” — and the environment. As the patron saint of animals and the environment, St. Francis was also beloved for his dedication to poverty and reform. Not a bad namesake. 2. He has shunned the lavish perks As the most powerful symbol of the Catholic Church, there are many lavish appointments at Pope Francis’ disposal, least of which is the opulent 12-plus-room papal apartment on the top floor of the Apostolic Palace. But instead, given that he has no personal household staff (practically unheard of in his business), he has opted to live in a small studio in a Vatican residence, the Casa Santa Marta. (We figured something was up when he insisted on paying his own hotel bill for his stay during the inauguration mass before he had his papal digs.) 3. He speaks for the trees Like the Lorax in a cassock, Pope Francis advocates for the environment. And in fact, during his inaugural homily on March 18 in St. Peter's Square, the environment received much attention from the modern-day St. Francis of Assisi. Among other pleas for the environment in his speech, Pope Francis said, "I would like to ask all those who have positions of responsibility in economic, political and social life, and all men and women of goodwill: Let us be protectors of creation, protectors of God’s plan inscribed in nature, protectors of one another and of the environment.” 4. He blessed a bunch of bikers Leather-clad bikers and the pope? Say what? When a rally of 35,000 Harley-Davidson riders from around the world descended upon St. Peter’s Square in Vatican City, Pope Francis blessed the lot of them and laid his hands on a disabled boy accompanied by one of motorcyclists. Some riders decorated their bikes with flags imprinted with Francis’ smiling mug; Harley-Davidson gave Pope Francis two white Harleys to use in the Vatican police force. 5. He's given good tweets The image of a tweeting Pope is good enough on its own, but Pope Francis actually uses social media to great effect. Beyond ecclesiastic clichés, he has delivered some pretty pithy posts in the allotted 140 characters, like the following few which address corporate greed and waste.
6. He made atheists swoon OK, maybe not swoon, per se, but last month something strange happened: atheists across social media platforms were sharing Pope Francis' quotes … accompanied by phrases of praise. In what was surely a first, a pope said that atheists could be redeemed. While delivering a homily inspired by the Gospel of Mark, Pope Francis said: The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class. We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all. And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, if we do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter: We need that so much. We must meet one another doing good. 'But I don't believe, Father, I am an atheist!' But do good: We will meet one another there. Jaw-dropping ensued ... and a Vatican spokesman quickly intervened and backtracked, but the wise words live on. 7. He is hands-on Pope Francis loves to mix with the huge crowds in St. Peter's Square; he even shakes hands and kisses babies like a good politician. Reports say that his public affection is driving his security detail crazy. He frequently celebrates public mass and opts for walking when his security team wants him to ride. And he has gone so far so to trade in the bulletproof-glass Popemobile that has been in use since 1981, and instead rides in an open-air white Mercedes jeep, frequently getting out to greet the crowds. Next, we’re hoping he takes to one of those shiny white motorcycles presented to him by Harley Davidson.
while none of those things are making anyone a believer, you have to admit that he walks the walk. He pretty much dissolved the pope mobile argument, harley davidson gave him 2 white motorcycles for being awesome, and he lives in the smallest apartment in the vatican without a crew of servants.
the thing is, he is making a lot of the popes before him look like, sad, scared, greedy men... and that should make any atheist smile.
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I am highly suspicious of as to how he got to become pope.
Too simple. They picked a man from the area with the fastest growing population of Catholics to keep the sheep and $$$ coming in.
Without as much as looking into him as a person? You're telling me they had no idea he would start doing all the stuff he did?
Really? 
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Sounds too well thought out... maybe not. idk 
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Honestly why are we supposed to be surprised that someone isn't making a bling bling of himself? Has the bar dropped that low? It's not that difficult to live without servants and a huge ass room.
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Being an environmentalist is popular among politicians nowadays. Don't see why they couldn't get on board sooner. Everybody loves an environmentally aware politician, but do they actually do anything besides talk?
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4. He blessed a bunch of bikers Leather-clad bikers and the pope? Say what? When a rally of 35,000 Harley-Davidson riders from around the world descended upon St. Peter’s Square in Vatican City, Pope Francis blessed the lot of them and laid his hands on a disabled boy accompanied by one of motorcyclists. Some riders decorated their bikes with flags imprinted with Francis’ smiling mug; Harley-Davidson gave Pope Francis two white Harleys to use in the Vatican police force.
How awfully hip of him. And they just happened to have a disabled boy with them? And even harley Davidson pitched in? Hmmm...
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5. He's given good tweets The image of a tweeting Pope is good enough on its own, but Pope Francis actually uses social media to great effect. Beyond ecclesiastic clichés, he has delivered some pretty pithy posts in the allotted 140 characters, like the following few which address corporate greed and waste.
Again, gotta be hip with the young generation. Plus using social networks to their advantage is something they should have done long ago. Also, condemning corporate greed is as popular as environmentalism these days...
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Well this is pretty interesting for the head of the church to say such things is a pretty big deal
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7. He is hands-on Pope Francis loves to mix with the huge crowds in St. Peter's Square; he even shakes hands and kisses babies like a good politician. Reports say that his public affection is driving his security detail crazy. He frequently celebrates public mass and opts for walking when his security team wants him to ride. And he has gone so far so to trade in the bulletproof-glass Popemobile that has been in use since 1981, and instead rides in an open-air white Mercedes jeep, frequently getting out to greet the crowds. Next, we’re hoping he takes to one of those shiny white motorcycles presented to him by Harley Davidson.
Bold move. Right on.
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SneezingPenis said: while none of those things are making anyone a believer, you have to admit that he walks the walk. He pretty much dissolved the pope mobile argument, harley davidson gave him 2 white motorcycles for being awesome, and he lives in the smallest apartment in the vatican without a crew of servants.
the thing is, he is making a lot of the popes before him look like, sad, scared, greedy men... and that should make any atheist smile.
Now all the things I wrote after each point may seem negative, I'm not trying to deny the validity of these actions so far. But I'm trying to see how things COULD be something else than they seem
I agree. Actually, it should make any sound person smile. And I'm smiling. I'd just like to see where it all leads. Should he continue to show such genuine promise and influence christians around the world- I will only endorse and respect that But until I see more I'm gonna stay just a little suspicious and keep my eyes peeled.
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You're telling me they had no idea he would start doing all the stuff he did?
You are hallucinating. Put down the drugs.
My good sir, I haven't touched any drugs in almost three months; no cigarettes, no weed, no alcohol, no mdma, no acid, no porn, NOTHING! T'is THOU whom is bereft of a drug free mind, thou art hallucinating, my good sir I bid thee good day!
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Excerpts of inner dialogue III-V-VIII: "Im no saint, but I do have genuine intentions." "So you believe in intensions?" "No. I believe in being genuine." "The goal is to become more child-like, and less child-ish."
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OrgoneConclusion
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Then you are seriously delusional to see words that I never wrote.
Please consult your health care professional.
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MotherNaturesSon
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Will do
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Excerpts of inner dialogue III-V-VIII: "Im no saint, but I do have genuine intentions." "So you believe in intensions?" "No. I believe in being genuine." "The goal is to become more child-like, and less child-ish."
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SneezingPenis
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orgone, i don't think being the pope is an easy job. in fact, i think it is something on the level of being a supreme court justice who is also a senator. His day planner has to be full, and I wouldn't fault him for having some servants do tidy work or even help with sermons and washing leper kisses off the ring.
I doubt that any pope sat around all day diddling himself in his robes. All that PR shit gets extremely tiring, on top of having to come up with cool tweets and sermons, then hoping to get in some personal time, probably consumes most of your day.
I bet that if i was pope i would have as many servants as I had shit to do.
it is a rare thing to observe someone given so much power and not have them abuse it in the slightest. I'm not sure if there ever has been anyone in his position, no matter how noble history has painted him/her, who hasn't on occasion used their power for the smallest self serving agenda.
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OrgoneConclusion
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If I had ultimate power, I would get Chinese food delivered for lunch every day starting with some moo-shoo pork.
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