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ayahuasca pretrip questions
    #19285427 - 12/16/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So i was suppose to try aya for the first time this past weekend but it had to get postponed due to work anyway

From all i read i cant figure out would it be better

1. to do by myself or a friend

2. Night or day

3. how much will i purge is it once like cacti or throughout the trip

4. Also how would it compare to 10g of cubes or 2ft of potent cacti


My reciepe is gonna consist of 4,5gs of syrian rue & 20g of ACRB or should those be up'd


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Re: ayahuasca pretrip questions [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19285602 - 12/16/13 07:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

20 grams of acacia?....That sounds like quite a hefty dose IMO, wouldn't that contain around 175mg to 225mg of DMT?



I usually prefer solo trips in general in regards to all psychedelics, and I trust myself and know my self to handle the amounts I take. But when it comes to oral dmt, that is one case where I'd actually prefer to have a sober "sitter" around. The potential for one's body to move around uncontrollably, or with out realizing, while "they" are out there seems to be a bit more likely with higher doses of dmt. I'd like to have someone around to watch over my body while I'm not quite "in it" :smirk: .


I like night tripping, unless I'm outdoors somewhere secluded in nature, and it's something I'd suggest. Night is much calmer and quieter, less activity going on in general, less chance of something "coming up" and happening that you'd have to respond to .


I have no idea how much you'll purge :shrug:


And I have no idea how that'd compare to that amount of mushrooms or cacti...But I can imagine it'd be considerably more intense and immersive. I find large doses of mushrooms to be reminiscent of dmt, but I've always found dmt to be in an entirely different league of it's own.



And not to get all technical...but would syrian rue and acacia be considered ayahuasca? I mean it has the maoi and the dmt component, but I always thought ayahuasca was specifically the Banisteriopsis caapi vine, "thee ayahuasca vine"...and the ayahuasca vine is commonly brewed with Psychotria viridis or Diplopterys cabrerana (Chaliponga)....and sometimes with other ad-mixtures.








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Re: ayahuasca pretrip questions [Re: openmind]
    #19285635 - 12/16/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yea i guess it wouldnt be the traditional ayahuasca but it should get the job done all the same

Mayb i should cutback on tha acrb a little then i had been reading 10-15 would be good but i always feel like like people are to conservative with there first time dosage opinions compared to where i like it



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Re: ayahuasca pretrip questions [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19285782 - 12/16/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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1slow2v said:
Yea i guess it wouldnt be the traditional ayahuasca but it should get the job done all the same.





True, and definitely :yesnod: .

Though I am very curious about subtle differences that different maoi plants and different dmt plants might produce. But when it comes down to it, it is still the two primary active components.





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Mayb i should cutback on tha acrb a little then i had been reading 10-15 would be good but i always feel like like people are to conservative with there first time dosage opinions compared to where i like it





I mean how deep & immersive of an experience are you looking for?

Most acacia is said to contain at least 1% dmt, with 20 grams of bark that's 200mg of dmt. I've heard of people sometimes getting upwards of 2.5% yields from extractions, so it'd likely be a bit more than that.

When taken orally in a brew, I think 10g of bark or the equivalent of 100mg of dmt, would be sufficient for most people to have quite an experience.

As far as the syrian rue, that should be plenty. Around 3 or 4 grams is usually enough to inhibit mao.



With all this being said, I suppose I should let it be known that I my self still haven't taken dmt orally. I'm just providing the bits of knowledge that I do have in regards to the subject.




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Re: ayahuasca pretrip questions [Re: openmind]
    #19285799 - 12/16/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I want to go deep just not so deep i shit or piss myself but just to the point


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Re: ayahuasca pretrip questions [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19285843 - 12/16/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

But i do want it to be spirtual and have meaning


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