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Stealing Food For Homeless
    #19284558 - 12/16/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you go to a major chain or huge corporate grocery store and you see some person with a cardboard sign asking for money or whatever, would you consider it bad karma(if such a thing exists) to steal food from the store and give it to the beggar and/or his dog. It also really irks me that if you cannot support yourself you probably should not own pets, but half of the homeless around here all have fucking dogs! I hate to see an animal starve.

I have thought about doing such things, but would never think to do it to a small locally owned business. I have also worked for certain major grocery corporations. Ones in which the CEO made 10 million dollars a year and we could not even get the proper supplies needed to run the deli correctly.  You work your fucking ass off only to get no appreciation whatsoever. The only recognition you get is if you make a mistake. Those corporate fucks do not give one single shit about the working man.

So my question is, will they really miss a few boxes of granola bars and some bags of dog treats? Would the benefit of feeding a hungry person outweigh the negativity of theft?


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19284563 - 12/16/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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LiquidGlass said:
If you go to a major chain or huge corporate grocery store and you see some person with a cardboard sign asking for money or whatever, would you consider it bad karma, if such a thing exists, to steal food from the store and give it to the beggar.

I have thought about doing such things, but would never think to do it to a small locally owned busines. I have also worked for certain major grocery corporations. Ones in which the CEO made 10 million dollars a year and we could not even get the proper supplies needed to run the deli correctly. Those corporate fucks do not give one single shit about the working man.

So my question is, will they really miss a few boxes of granola bars and some bags of dog treats? Would the benefit of feeding a hungry person outweigh the negativity of theft?



If they wanted stolen food, they'd do it themselves.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19284582 - 12/16/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've done it.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19284602 - 12/16/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If they wanted stolen food, they'd do it themselves.





I do realize that a lot of those guys would rather have food than drugs so I would very rarely give a guy money. I have been in a mexican food place where a guy came in asking a lady for money for food. She said no, but offered to buy him anything on the menu. He said he would rather have money and just walked out without accepting the food.

However if a homeless person DID want to steal food, the fact that they are dirty and homeless looking would make it really difficult as they would definitely be watching him in the store.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: Dest]
    #19284609 - 12/16/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have no pity for Walmart. Rob them blind.

Btw dogs can be literally lifesavers for many homeless, especially homeless women! :sun:

The stores might donate too though, especially if you tried to put together some consortium.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox] * 2
    #19284627 - 12/16/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I have no pity for Walmart. Rob them blind.

Btw dogs can be literally lifesavers for many homeless, especially homeless women! :sun:

The stores might donate too though, especially if you tried to put together some consortium.



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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19284636 - 12/16/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Okay... Lol

Hope you like debt :smile:


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox]
    #19284647 - 12/16/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

From my experiences it depends on the location and or looks of the guy
If he looks like a little dope headed punk trying to get enough cash to score him
And his gf a bag of dope at the next close crackhead motel or its the
Same guy thats been standing there threw storms n shiit ill go
Threw the Mc D n get him 2 99cent burgers n a coffie by no means
Would I EVER steal for one he can get up n worj like the rest of us


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19284662 - 12/16/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you feel like it go ahead. Rob any major store like Wal-Mart. It's immoral to steal but owners of giant chains such as Wal-Mart should be robbed blind. They are a curse.

I don't do it cause I'm a wuss.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox] * 3
    #19284673 - 12/16/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Buy the food yourself if you feel so guilty.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: Dest] * 1
    #19284679 - 12/16/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you can afford to buy the food for them then you should.
Stealing for the poor when you are rich enough to spend for the poor is still selfish.
If you are poor and on the streets and you steal and you share it with someone else who is poor and on the streets then I don't see much of a moral issue.

I swing back and forth on the morality of stealing from huge coporations, in the end I have concluded that it is still wrong. That doesn't mean I'll practice what I preach in 100% of the instances. But I wont lie to myself and tell myself that I am being righteous.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox] * 1
    #19284697 - 12/16/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Big business or not, your still robbing from someone. Who gives a fuck about wether or not it's walmart or a small family run grocery store, either way your going to be stealing from someone. If you care enough about feeding someone (who most likely can themselves, but rather do nothing about it) then go in and pay for the food yourself and give it to them.


Sorry but I'm going to have to get to a place where I'm SUPER disabled first, before I resort to hanging outside places and asking for change. There are cases were people absolutely can't fend for themselves, but you know what? Most of those people arn't going to be on the street begging for change, their going to be in somekind of institution or dead. Most people I run into on a daily basis begging for change seem quite capable of being able to work and do something for themselfs, instead I seem them regularly outside the same stores begging for change, smelling like booze and then swearing at people who don't cough up any monies.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: The5thElement]
    #19284709 - 12/16/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I really like the responses so far. So many varying opinions. . .


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19284714 - 12/16/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh I stole dogfood for a dog once too


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
    #19284728 - 12/16/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If you feel like it go ahead. Rob any major store like Wal-Mart. It's immoral to steal but owners of giant chains such as Wal-Mart should be robbed blind. They are a curse.

I don't do it cause I'm a wuss.




Ditto. Stealing is immoral, but feeding someone without resources does more good than it does bad by virtue of being stolen.

I don't do this, but if I need a tool or something I'm only going to use once, I buy it at Walmart, use it, and return it. I resent the overhead it represents for those who work there who have done nothing wrong (and are primary victims) but frankly I feel no pity to those whose profits are truly effected.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox]
    #19284739 - 12/16/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's hard to tell who actually needs support and who's lazy and doesn't want to do anything for themselves.I'm all for helping people but that act is far from black and white.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: The5thElement]
    #19284752 - 12/16/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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It's hard to tell who actually needs support and who's lazy and doesn't want to do anything for themselves.I'm all for helping people but that act is far from black and white.




It's still better to do absolutely nothing than to do harm like the Walton family.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: The5thElement]
    #19284758 - 12/16/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've gone in restaurants homeless people were sitting against begging for food and bought them take out meals. They have, each time, set it somewhere on the ground and gone instantly back to begging for money "for food".

And BEAUTIFLY said, DrugsRGood.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
    #19284770 - 12/16/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

The5thElement said:
It's hard to tell who actually needs support and who's lazy and doesn't want to do anything for themselves.I'm all for helping people but that act is far from black and white.




It's still better to do absolutely nothing than to do harm like the Walton family.




Right lets just give people money in hopes that it will no doubtly help that person, that's a very naive way of looking at things :rolleyes:


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: The5thElement]
    #19284780 - 12/16/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm going to give you guys a tip, not everyone on the street begging for change is homeless and incapable of helping themselves, there are lazy and ignorant people out there, people who don't give a fuck about others and would gladly take free money if given, not to say everyone is like that but those people do exist.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox]
    #19284792 - 12/16/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I've gone in restaurants homeless people were sitting against begging for food and bought them take out meals. They have, each time, set it somewhere on the ground and gone instantly back to begging for money "for food".

And BEAUTIFLY said, DrugsRGood.




That's interesting.

I spent one evening with a crack addict and it amazed me how good he was at begging for money. We drove around for a couple of hours and he was able to beg for 120$ dollars in total. He offered me a couple hits... Was a great guy...

So I can see why most of the time they don't care about food because for them they only spend like 20$ a day (I'm assuming and if that) on food and the rest on drugs cause that's what sustains them...


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox]
    #19284795 - 12/16/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I know a guy who bought a subway sandwich and gave it to a homeless guy; as he walked away from the homeless guy he turned around to see the homeless guy take one sniff of the sandwich and then throw it away :rofl2:. Anyway something to think about before stealing food...

Also something else to think about is that you could end up stealing a homeless guy something he's allergic to, for example imagine how much of a disaster you could cause if you steal peanuts for a homeless guy that's allergic to peanuts :aweman: (although it's very unlikely to happen, but it's still possible)


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
    #19284806 - 12/16/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

st1llnox said:
I've gone in restaurants homeless people were sitting against begging for food and bought them take out meals. They have, each time, set it somewhere on the ground and gone instantly back to begging for money "for food".

And BEAUTIFLY said, DrugsRGood.




That's interesting.

I spent one evening with a crack addict and it amazed me how good he was at begging for money. We drove around for a couple of hours and he was able to beg for 120$ dollars in total. He offered me a couple hits... Was a great guy...

So I can see why most of the time they don't care about food because for them they only spend like 20$ a day (I'm assuming and if that) on food and the rest on drugs cause that's what sustains them...




You should have gave that guy money because it's better to do that then  nothing at all :ancientaliens:


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: The5thElement]
    #19284816 - 12/16/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You should have gave that guy money because it's better to do that then  nothing at all :ancientaliens:





I gave him 20$.

You didn't understand what I said. He caused no harm and was a great guy. Meanwhile the Walton fuckers are swimming in money while people in Bangladesh make clothes for them to sell at a ridiculous profit because they are too cheap to pay them more than 30$ a month.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
    #19284839 - 12/16/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Great guy or not, is he not able to support himself then? So you gave him 20$, meanwhile he's pretty much just buying drugs with it says you.

Ok so some rich people are making money off of their employees... We should rob them and give to whom? What exactly is the point, and the act of you giving that guy money, was it the right thing to do?

I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm trying to understand. I have to leave for work now, be back in 8-10 hours.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
    #19284842 - 12/16/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

The5thElement said:
It's hard to tell who actually needs support and who's lazy and doesn't want to do anything for themselves.I'm all for helping people but that act is far from black and white.




It's still better to do absolutely nothing than to do harm like the Walton family.



What harm does the Walton family do?  And who the fuck do you think you are to decide who is worthy of being stolen from?  Who elected you?  Stealing is wrong in any form.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
    #19284849 - 12/16/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The5thElement said:
You should have gave that guy money because it's better to do that then  nothing at all :ancientaliens:





I gave him 20$.

You didn't understand what I said. He caused no harm and was a great guy. Meanwhile the Walton fuckers are swimming in money while people in Bangladesh make clothes for them to sell at a ridiculous profit because they are too cheap to pay them more than 30$ a month.



Maybe you should bring that up with all the poor people who can buy products they otherwise would not be able to afford.  Then you can ask the Bangladeshis how they would feel when they have no jobs because they would lose the competitive advantage of a low wage to those with more advantageous transportation means


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19284861 - 12/16/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Quote:

DrugsRGood said:
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The5thElement said:
It's hard to tell who actually needs support and who's lazy and doesn't want to do anything for themselves.I'm all for helping people but that act is far from black and white.




It's still better to do absolutely nothing than to do harm like the Walton family.



What harm does the Walton family do?  And who the fuck do you think you are to decide who is worthy of being stolen from?  Who elected you?  Stealing is wrong in any form.




I am me and a I decided for myself. Everybody else does whatever he wants. Good for you to think this way, I think differently.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: The5thElement]
    #19284870 - 12/16/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just a few other personal experiences


Once a guy asked me for some change for a cup of coffee and I gave him a dollar. As I was walking to my car I saw him walk to the liquor store and sat in my car until he came out with a 40oz lol


Way back when I lived in San Diego I was in downtown and and a homeless guy came up to me while I was waiting in the Del Taco drive thru. He had a really good story, but I forget the majority of it. Something about trying really hard to get a job and get back on his feet and needed money for a meal. So I gave him a couple bucks and in my head told myself he was just going to get drugs. So I drive over to my gf's to pick her up and he was sitting out side her building eating jack in the box . . .

Another time me and my ex gf went to see alex grey in SF and it was so cramped and packed and hot in there. We were high on L and there was no re-entry so wee just bailed out early but had to wait for our friend who was still in there somewhere. We walked to some gas station to look for a bathroom, it was about 1 am in a shitty part of the city, and there was this guy with his hood up on his car. He started talking to us about the show and if it was good, then as we were walking away he told this story about how he got beat up and robed, just got out of the hospital and needed to get home but did not have money for gas. He even shed a tear or two. I was ready to just bounce but my ex wanted to put some gas in his car. On the way to the cashier some guy came up and told us not to do it because that guy was there all of the time. Then he tried to sell us some drugs. She put 7 dollars in and then he said he needed money for the bridge, but we said no. Then some other dude tried to sell us drugs. Fuck the city


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass] * 1
    #19284885 - 12/16/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I knew someone who was living in someone elses place temporarily and to eat he stole a whole shit load of pork once, he was broke and starving so I think it was justified. I was absolutely impressed with how he got away with that much meat. I helped him barbaque and it could have easily fed like 10 people, plus leftovers.
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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19284892 - 12/16/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If a homeless person ever tells me they are hungry I will buy them food.  If I have money I will buy it, only way I would ever steal food is if I was starving and couldn't get it any other way.  Its not stealing about a corporation, its being too cheap to buy food with your money.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: The5thElement]
    #19284893 - 12/16/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Great guy or not, is he not able to support himself then? So you gave him 20$, meanwhile he's pretty much just buying drugs with it says you.

Ok so some rich people are making money off of their employees... We should rob them and give to whom? What exactly is the point, and the act of you giving that guy money, was it the right thing to do?

I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm trying to understand. I have to leave for work now, be back in 8-10 hours.




Spread the wealth that's my point.

Do you know how much it cost him to maintain his crack addiction a day? A lot. I gave him money because he begged me first. :lol:

At the end of evening he pleaded me to help him get out of it. He was crying and kept telling me how good his life was before crack.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
    #19286838 - 12/17/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think if your going to give anyone something, give them food. If someone turns that down and asks for change instead shit isn't that bad.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19286841 - 12/17/13 01:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

In high school some friends and I used to regularly steal subs from Wegman's. Eventually we realized this same guy was always at the exit we got off on our way home so we started stealing him one too. He seemed to appreciate it.

I wouldn't do it now, but I wouldn't do a lot of things that I was okay with doing in high school.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19287579 - 12/17/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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So my question is, will they really miss a few boxes of granola bars and some bags of dog treats? Would the benefit of feeding a hungry person outweigh the negativity of theft?





depends on if you get caught, would a couple of years of probation, fines,
restitution and all the supervision fees be worth $6 with of crap, now
consider that you've got a record now, a few more of the same offenses and
you could see a life sentence.. still worth it? is it worth being labeled as
a thief regardless of your intent?

now lemme ask? why you feeding a homeless guy some fucking dog biscuits?
that's just wrong, or does the homeless guy have a dog because if he does,
that's just fucked up because if he cant take care of himself then how does
he expect to take care of a dog, what happens when the dog is sick or in
some other way becomes a financial liability, like you know... when he has
to feed the thing


yeah, so the way I see it, hook the fucker up with work, let him buy food
for him and his dog, stop pandering to these fuckers, most are scam artists
anyway and they choose locations like that because they know they can get
something from people in the area

and if he doesnt fall all over himself to get some work... shoot him in the dick


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19287590 - 12/17/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I hate to see an animal starve.




thats why they do it.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19287591 - 12/17/13 08:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If you go to a major chain or huge corporate grocery store and you see some person with a cardboard sign asking for money or whatever, would you consider it bad karma(if such a thing exists) to steal food from the store and give it to the beggar and/or his dog. It also really irks me that if you cannot support yourself you probably should not own pets, but half of the homeless around here all have fucking dogs! I hate to see an animal starve.

I have thought about doing such things, but would never think to do it to a small locally owned business. I have also worked for certain major grocery corporations. Ones in which the CEO made 10 million dollars a year and we could not even get the proper supplies needed to run the deli correctly.  You work your fucking ass off only to get no appreciation whatsoever. The only recognition you get is if you make a mistake. Those corporate fucks do not give one single shit about the working man.

So my question is, will they really miss a few boxes of granola bars and some bags of dog treats? Would the benefit of feeding a hungry person outweigh the negativity of theft?



I think a lot of people have a dog before they become homeless. Its hard to part with an animal when you have an emotional attachemnt to it, I can see this being even more problematic for those who become homeless.

I'd have no problem stealing from the rich to give to the poor. I admire men like Robin Hood and Ted Kennedy afterall.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19287604 - 12/17/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'd have no problem stealing from the rich to give to the poor. I admire men like Robin Hood and Ted Kennedy afterall.





robin hood took from the rich and gave to the poor according to the fiction

ted kennedy drowned young women in the Chappaquiddick river


I believe there's a bit of a difference

like kennedy was very wealthy


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    #19287737 - 12/17/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Let me break it down for you all--I live the life of a penniless traveller, and in affluent western society (like the USA and Canada) you will NEVER starve unless you are in the deep backcountry and don't know how to hunt. You may be malnourished, but starving is never going to happen unless you literally choose to not eat. Shoplifting isn't even required.

Even in small towns, I have always found religious and social organizations that provide free meals or food bank services. In a large city? You can pretty much eat three meals a day once you learn the feeding schedules--sunday is feast day!

If, for whatever reason, you can't find the above, dumpster diving is your friend. You aren't truly hungry if you are above eating that leftover tray of fries someone left in the food court. And once you can move beyond eating leftovers and migrate to grocery store dumpsters, you will find enough food to feed 30 people with ease--and healthily too!

The ONLY thing that a person NEEDS to spange for is drug money. They may be doing it for other reasons, but this is never out of need but due to laziness (you can often make more money spangeing than busking, because people pitty a beggar more than a working preformer). Just keep this in mind, and know where your money is likely headed.





And... keep off of homeless folk and their dogs. When society looks at you like a piece of dirt (and that's when it's paying any attention to you at all), having someone who loves you unconditionally goes beyond words. Not to mention the protection a dog can provide, as well as sharing warmth on a cold night. In my experience, the dogs eat better than the people--at a minimum, half of all their food goes to their dog--if not more. Can their still be the odd shitty dog owner, of course, but in my opinion the dogs of homeless folk are some of the best treated dogs out there--and I have known too many people who have had their dogs taken away from them/killed by dickheads to not feel strongly about this issue.




If you truly feel sympathy for a homeless person, I wouldn't recommend giving them cash (or food) as a solution. Instead, spend time with them, treat them like you would any human--forget they are homeless and just relate with them. The effect of having hundreds of people walk by you without even acknowledging your existence can be extremely depressing. Treat them like people, not like charity cases--because people is what they are.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #19287756 - 12/17/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I used to hang out with a few homeless people that hung out under the bridge near my friends house.  They always were pretty interesting, and I always treated them well.  They are people just like anyone else, just got dealt a shitty hand.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19287757 - 12/17/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Go Zap.  Kicking ass and taking names.

People say they should rob Wal-Mart blind because it is a big corporation.  Big corporations are owned by shareholders who are people like the rest of us and I bet if you asked a shareholder they would frown on stealing.

Stealing doesn't solve anything.  No matter what the reason, stealing sucks.


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    #19287795 - 12/17/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Every time I go to shop I steal from enemies, who steal from me and from you (if only you knew, than you would steal too).



And just so you know, Bangladesh has been riddled with labour protests for a long time now--workers recently burnt down their factory as part of a labour dispute--so don't try and say that Bangladeshis are happy to have shitty sweatshop jobs, because they ain't!


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #19287960 - 12/17/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Bullshit.  Nobody forces them to work.  They are making money for their families and want their jobs.  The fact that they are a cheap labor force just goes to show how global the economy really is.  As pressure on productivity continues to rise the wages will rise with it as more and more businesses seek to utilize the cheap labor pool.  Basic economics here.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: mpd]
    #19287985 - 12/17/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Nobody forces them to work.




Yea but why do they work in such conditions? Why is someone here blessed with safety and enough money to love and live honestly? And over there they work in smelly factories where fires start frequently and people die and people then revolt by destroying the entire factory. Does this happen here? Why is it happening over there?

Because USA?
Why the fuck is USA more important than any other place? It's not.
They deserve everything the US has. Well except for rich people.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
    #19288006 - 12/17/13 10:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Daffy Duck Greedy Coward



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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: mpd]
    #19288027 - 12/17/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh yea, no one forces them to work--they have to freedom to choose between starvation outside the factory or suffocating inside the factory...

you do realize conditions are so bad in your oversea sweatshops that people are DIEING from buildings collapsing, fire traps, and other unsafe work conditions caused by cost cutting practices, right?
every single on of these stories deals with events from only the last month:

140 factories closed in new Bangladesh wage protest

Bangladesh Garment Workers Stage Fresh Protests After Two Deaths

Bangladeshi Police Fire Rubber Bullets at Protesting Garment Workers

Bangladesh police crack down on unions after wage unrest

One of Bangladesh’s biggest garment factories destroyed in fire started by angry workers

Bangladesh garment factory fires: fashion industry’s latest crisis

Hidden toll from unreported fires in Bangladesh clothing factories

One in six Walmart factories in Bangladesh fail safety review

Bangladeshi Workers, Among Lowest Paid In World, Torch Factory Causing £60m Loss To Owners





capitalism kills and your economy depends on an exploitable class

you use your freedom to talk like you are aware of issues outside of your tiny protective bubble--i'll use my freedom to challenge your worldview every chance i get


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: mpd]
    #19288058 - 12/17/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They want to survive, as does every person.  Just cause a slave does what he's told doesn't mean they want to be in the situation they are in.  Who the fuck wants to work 60 hours a week just to survive?  You are full of it.  Its not basic economics either.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19288226 - 12/17/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I'd have no problem stealing from the rich to give to the poor. I admire men like Robin Hood and Ted Kennedy afterall.





robin hood took from the rich and gave to the poor according to the fiction

ted kennedy drowned young women in the Chappaquiddick river


I believe there's a bit of a difference




In all fairness to Ted, he drowned a woman in the Chappaquiddick river, not women.

And besides no one really cared about her enough to prosecute him for it so its all good. And anyway he dived in several times trying to rescue her, I understand he was very distraught, and it kept him from becoming president so he was punished more than enough.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19288240 - 12/17/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

stealing food from the homeless is both more impressive and more difficult


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19288248 - 12/17/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sometimes if I'm at a store with a food box bin and food box bags to buy(which is fucking retarded) I will just grab one or two and throw them in the box without paying for them. No one ever says anything.


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