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Stealing Food For Homeless
    #19284558 - 12/16/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you go to a major chain or huge corporate grocery store and you see some person with a cardboard sign asking for money or whatever, would you consider it bad karma(if such a thing exists) to steal food from the store and give it to the beggar and/or his dog. It also really irks me that if you cannot support yourself you probably should not own pets, but half of the homeless around here all have fucking dogs! I hate to see an animal starve.

I have thought about doing such things, but would never think to do it to a small locally owned business. I have also worked for certain major grocery corporations. Ones in which the CEO made 10 million dollars a year and we could not even get the proper supplies needed to run the deli correctly.  You work your fucking ass off only to get no appreciation whatsoever. The only recognition you get is if you make a mistake. Those corporate fucks do not give one single shit about the working man.

So my question is, will they really miss a few boxes of granola bars and some bags of dog treats? Would the benefit of feeding a hungry person outweigh the negativity of theft?


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19284563 - 12/16/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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LiquidGlass said:
If you go to a major chain or huge corporate grocery store and you see some person with a cardboard sign asking for money or whatever, would you consider it bad karma, if such a thing exists, to steal food from the store and give it to the beggar.

I have thought about doing such things, but would never think to do it to a small locally owned busines. I have also worked for certain major grocery corporations. Ones in which the CEO made 10 million dollars a year and we could not even get the proper supplies needed to run the deli correctly. Those corporate fucks do not give one single shit about the working man.

So my question is, will they really miss a few boxes of granola bars and some bags of dog treats? Would the benefit of feeding a hungry person outweigh the negativity of theft?



If they wanted stolen food, they'd do it themselves.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19284582 - 12/16/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've done it.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19284602 - 12/16/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If they wanted stolen food, they'd do it themselves.





I do realize that a lot of those guys would rather have food than drugs so I would very rarely give a guy money. I have been in a mexican food place where a guy came in asking a lady for money for food. She said no, but offered to buy him anything on the menu. He said he would rather have money and just walked out without accepting the food.

However if a homeless person DID want to steal food, the fact that they are dirty and homeless looking would make it really difficult as they would definitely be watching him in the store.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: Dest]
    #19284609 - 12/16/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have no pity for Walmart. Rob them blind.

Btw dogs can be literally lifesavers for many homeless, especially homeless women! :sun:

The stores might donate too though, especially if you tried to put together some consortium.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox] * 2
    #19284627 - 12/16/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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st1llnox said:
I have no pity for Walmart. Rob them blind.

Btw dogs can be literally lifesavers for many homeless, especially homeless women! :sun:

The stores might donate too though, especially if you tried to put together some consortium.



I have no pity for st1llnox.  Rob him blind.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19284636 - 12/16/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Okay... Lol

Hope you like debt :smile:


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox]
    #19284647 - 12/16/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

From my experiences it depends on the location and or looks of the guy
If he looks like a little dope headed punk trying to get enough cash to score him
And his gf a bag of dope at the next close crackhead motel or its the
Same guy thats been standing there threw storms n shiit ill go
Threw the Mc D n get him 2 99cent burgers n a coffie by no means
Would I EVER steal for one he can get up n worj like the rest of us


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19284662 - 12/16/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you feel like it go ahead. Rob any major store like Wal-Mart. It's immoral to steal but owners of giant chains such as Wal-Mart should be robbed blind. They are a curse.

I don't do it cause I'm a wuss.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox] * 3
    #19284673 - 12/16/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Buy the food yourself if you feel so guilty.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: Dest] * 1
    #19284679 - 12/16/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you can afford to buy the food for them then you should.
Stealing for the poor when you are rich enough to spend for the poor is still selfish.
If you are poor and on the streets and you steal and you share it with someone else who is poor and on the streets then I don't see much of a moral issue.

I swing back and forth on the morality of stealing from huge coporations, in the end I have concluded that it is still wrong. That doesn't mean I'll practice what I preach in 100% of the instances. But I wont lie to myself and tell myself that I am being righteous.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox] * 1
    #19284697 - 12/16/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Big business or not, your still robbing from someone. Who gives a fuck about wether or not it's walmart or a small family run grocery store, either way your going to be stealing from someone. If you care enough about feeding someone (who most likely can themselves, but rather do nothing about it) then go in and pay for the food yourself and give it to them.


Sorry but I'm going to have to get to a place where I'm SUPER disabled first, before I resort to hanging outside places and asking for change. There are cases were people absolutely can't fend for themselves, but you know what? Most of those people arn't going to be on the street begging for change, their going to be in somekind of institution or dead. Most people I run into on a daily basis begging for change seem quite capable of being able to work and do something for themselfs, instead I seem them regularly outside the same stores begging for change, smelling like booze and then swearing at people who don't cough up any monies.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: The5thElement]
    #19284709 - 12/16/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I really like the responses so far. So many varying opinions. . .


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19284714 - 12/16/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh I stole dogfood for a dog once too


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
    #19284728 - 12/16/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If you feel like it go ahead. Rob any major store like Wal-Mart. It's immoral to steal but owners of giant chains such as Wal-Mart should be robbed blind. They are a curse.

I don't do it cause I'm a wuss.




Ditto. Stealing is immoral, but feeding someone without resources does more good than it does bad by virtue of being stolen.

I don't do this, but if I need a tool or something I'm only going to use once, I buy it at Walmart, use it, and return it. I resent the overhead it represents for those who work there who have done nothing wrong (and are primary victims) but frankly I feel no pity to those whose profits are truly effected.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: st1llnox]
    #19284739 - 12/16/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's hard to tell who actually needs support and who's lazy and doesn't want to do anything for themselves.I'm all for helping people but that act is far from black and white.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: The5thElement]
    #19284752 - 12/16/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It's hard to tell who actually needs support and who's lazy and doesn't want to do anything for themselves.I'm all for helping people but that act is far from black and white.




It's still better to do absolutely nothing than to do harm like the Walton family.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: The5thElement]
    #19284758 - 12/16/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've gone in restaurants homeless people were sitting against begging for food and bought them take out meals. They have, each time, set it somewhere on the ground and gone instantly back to begging for money "for food".

And BEAUTIFLY said, DrugsRGood.


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: DrugsRGood]
    #19284770 - 12/16/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

The5thElement said:
It's hard to tell who actually needs support and who's lazy and doesn't want to do anything for themselves.I'm all for helping people but that act is far from black and white.




It's still better to do absolutely nothing than to do harm like the Walton family.




Right lets just give people money in hopes that it will no doubtly help that person, that's a very naive way of looking at things :rolleyes:


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Re: Stealing Food For Homeless [Re: The5thElement]
    #19284780 - 12/16/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm going to give you guys a tip, not everyone on the street begging for change is homeless and incapable of helping themselves, there are lazy and ignorant people out there, people who don't give a fuck about others and would gladly take free money if given, not to say everyone is like that but those people do exist.


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