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theMallacht
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: TheHydrogenBomb]
#20044294 - 05/26/14 08:09 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wish I knew where to source good stone around here. If anyone is in SoCal and knows where to get some quality decomposed granite, limestone, lava chips, fuck I'll take anything at this point, me.
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TheHydrogenBomb
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: theMallacht]
#20044308 - 05/26/14 08:12 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dude, So cal
So many of those yards where they sell building materials
They carry everything
I used rocks found at hikes River beds Walks with my dog
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: theMallacht]
#20044477 - 05/26/14 08:57 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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They sell decomposed granite at lowes and home depot bro.Quote:
theMallacht said: I wish I knew where to source good stone around here. If anyone is in SoCal and knows where to get some quality decomposed granite, limestone, lava chips, fuck I'll take anything at this point, me.
I will send out some more boxes soon of my mix. Not really big boxes but soemthing to get started and feel this mix out. I have been dilly dallyin as of late but I will come through for my american EG'ers.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: TheHydrogenBomb]
#20044504 - 05/26/14 09:02 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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TheHydrogenBomb said: Yup stones for the win,
It took my babies a week to get going but know they plumped back up
No water
Just shade.
I have found that the weak will not survive in stone. It may be too much7ch for some but the ones that do take to it grow and seem to love it.
I gotta buy some more seed to grow a wide variety of cacti in rock.
and my experiments with my fissuratus seed was a complete fail. I should have know it too Most of them rotted.
I got to start them first in my coco mix then after some months make the transfer.
Its a learning experience though.
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TheHydrogenBomb
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#20044577 - 05/26/14 09:17 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Have you ever sprouted in just sand?
It sand mixed with hummus
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: TheHydrogenBomb]
#20044680 - 05/26/14 09:41 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes and I get that nasty green shit after while. No good so im back to my coco seed mix.
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TheHydrogenBomb
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#20044765 - 05/26/14 10:05 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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But the seedlings survive right,
That's happened to me
So I started spraying with peroxide diluted in water
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: TheHydrogenBomb]
#20044799 - 05/26/14 10:16 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Some do and some dont. I have heard sand is this and that and good and all. Maybe I am buying the wrong kind. Anywho if I do use pure rock again im gonna do it straight for to weeks in humidity, spray some peroxide and then uncover and leave them in the shade the fend for themselves.
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Horticulture
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#20046023 - 05/27/14 08:15 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Proof of concept with this tiny Mammillaria in the all sandstone mix. Never seen this cactus look so happy.
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Blind fool
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Horticulture]
#20046894 - 05/27/14 12:59 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am complete noob in growing cactus; just recently I started growing some peyote, trichocereus pachanoi and peruvianus from seed. So far I only used commercial cactus soil and perlite. Information in this thread about plants being able to digest rocks is completely new to me but very interesting!
I have never before been so happy and interested in rocks as I am now. I still have some seeds and will definitively try using rocks, but probably will mix some coco coir in as intelligentlife suggests.
Edited by Blind fool (05/27/14 01:16 PM)
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Blind fool]
#20047076 - 05/27/14 01:49 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Blind fool said: I am complete noob in growing cactus; just recently I started growing some peyote, trichocereus pachanoi and peruvianus from seed. So far I only used commercial cactus soil and perlite. Information in this thread about plants being able to digest rocks is completely new to me but very interesting!
I have never before been so happy and interested in rocks as I am now. I still have some seeds and will definitively try using rocks, but probably will mix some coco coir in as intelligentlife suggests.
Intelligentlife has some great stuff but the mix he suggests is not 100% rock as i do it. It defeats the purpose of this thread. Dont get me wrong im all for tweeking shit up but this is 100% rock baby!!!! Digest it.
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Blind fool
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#20047121 - 05/27/14 02:03 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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I did not try to put down your work, I am sorry if my post gives this impression. The coco coir remark was just me “thinking” loud. I am not trying to persuade you to change your mind. I read the whole thread (every post) and I do 100% like the information.
Otherwise, my location should be similar to intelligentlife’s. His location says EU and he said he is above polar circle, which makes it either Finland or Sweden. I live in southern part of Sweden, therefore I was leaning more towards his ideas.
Therefore one more time, sorry if my post looks rude, it was not intentional.
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Horticulture
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Blind fool]
#20047135 - 05/27/14 02:08 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't think Trichocereus enjoy 100% stone. Bridgesii balls out in 1:1 cactus-mix:stone though.
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Mrdbrewer
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Blind fool]
#20047139 - 05/27/14 02:10 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Havent been here for a while but ive still been watering my lophs and trichs and my trichs have rooted (lets get on topic)
Do lophs eat stone aswell as other cacti because i would be interested in buying some more lophs and using stone as ive got some nice rocks plus can i put either loph or trich seeds in cracks in rocks and will they grow?
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Mrdbrewer]
#20047688 - 05/27/14 04:18 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Blind fool said: I did not try to put down your work, I am sorry if my post gives this impression.
not even man. No worries I just do 100% stone mimicking nature.
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Mrdbrewer said: Havent been here for a while but ive still been watering my lophs and trichs and my trichs have rooted (lets get on topic)
Do lophs eat stone aswell as other cacti because i would be interested in buying some more lophs and using stone as ive got some nice rocks plus can i put either loph or trich seeds in cracks in rocks and will they grow?
not all lophs will like 100% stone. Some do grow under brushes in the dirt. Some, like lophophora alberto-vojtechii, grow in 100% clay. I do an all around mix with a little bit of everything
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Blind fool
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#20055029 - 05/29/14 07:18 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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After being inspired by this thread, I went out to see what kind of small rocks there are to be found in my local area and found the following samples (photos without and with the flash). However I have no experience with mineral identification. I hope it is fine to post it here?

My wild guessing: 1) Granite 2) Mica schist 3) Amphibolite 4) Amphibolite (noticeably purple colored) 5) Quartzite 6) Gneiss 7) No idea, seems as some sort of mix of gneiss/quartzite
I plan on using the rocks for cultivation of lophophora/trichocereus sp. Are any of these rocks not suitable for the purpose?
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intelligentlife
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Blind fool]
#20055132 - 05/29/14 08:15 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Blind fool said: After being inspired by this thread, I went out to see what kind of small rocks there are to be found in my local area and found the following samples (photos without and with the flash). However I have no experience with mineral identification. I hope it is fine to post it here?

My wild guessing: 1) Granite 2) Mica schist 3) Amphibolite 4) Amphibolite (noticeably purple colored) 5) Quartzite 6) Gneiss 7) No idea, seems as some sort of mix of gneiss/quartzite
I plan on using the rocks for cultivation of lophophora/trichocereus sp. Are any of these rocks not suitable for the purpose?
I have all that kind of looking rocks randomly in my cactus growing medium mix. I've collected some outdoors and mixed it to commercial rocks..
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Blind fool]
#20055290 - 05/29/14 09:27 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Blind fool said: After being inspired by this thread, I went out to see what kind of small rocks there are to be found in my local area and found the following samples (photos without and with the flash). However I have no experience with mineral identification. I hope it is fine to post it here?

My wild guessing: 1) Granite 2) Mica schist 3) Amphibolite 4) Amphibolite (noticeably purple colored) 5) Quartzite 6) Gneiss 7) No idea, seems as some sort of mix of gneiss/quartzite
I plan on using the rocks for cultivation of lophophora/trichocereus sp. Are any of these rocks not suitable for the purpose?
you could go super simple like granite, mica schist, and clay.
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Blind fool
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#20059165 - 05/30/14 12:17 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Interesting recipe, but is it the granite in 1 and mica schist in 2?
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MalEncachado
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Blind fool]
#20078913 - 06/03/14 04:09 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I love this
I started seeds last week,
4 days in I have sprouts!
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