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Offlinecleaner
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Secret spiritual societies
    #1928356 - 09/18/03 09:50 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

This thing got completely out of my head.
But last night while reflecting on the days events it re surfaced at the back of my mind.

All we were talking about is Bush cabal this Bush cabal that, illuminati, satanists, masons, skull and bones, skull and no balls etc etc.

Satanic cult, the invisible hand is 30,000 years old.
And noone ever managed to shut them down.

Or is that so?


Years ago, i happened to stumble upon certain few references suggesting that there is a very small and very secret very dedicated sect who fought satanists over the millenias. I never managed to find any additional info or confirmation, anywhere.

Apart from here.
http://www.astralpulse.com/articles/robert/articles_5.htm
Even Mr.Bruce hasn't got a clue who these people were.

If the described tribe lives on this planet then i'd sure love to meet them.


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: cleaner]
    #1928600 - 09/18/03 11:58 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

u shouldnt believe everything u read...especially on the net... :shake:


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: cleaner]
    #1928610 - 09/18/03 12:04 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

> Satanic cult, the invisible hand is 30,000 years old. [snip] ...who fought satanists over the millenias.

Isn't Satan a creation of Christianity, which the last time I checked was only a few thousand years old?

> Even Mr.Bruce hasn't got a clue who these people were.

Weebles wobble, but the don't fall down...  :nut:


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: Seuss]
    #1928628 - 09/18/03 12:13 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Seuss said:
Isn't Satan a creation of Christianity, which the last time I checked was only a few thousand years old?





Well, Christianity was formed when Jesus appeared, the Christ, but Satanists have been around for much, much longer, constantly at war with the Proto-Jesus and his flock... Satanists are hated because they are sheep with HORNS. :evil:
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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: cleaner]
    #1930260 - 09/18/03 09:14 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

"OOO-EEE-O-AWEEEEEE-O...OOO-EEE-O-AWEEEEE-O...OOO-EEE-O-AWEEEEEE-O..............."


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #1930291 - 09/18/03 09:28 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Actually Satan was created by Judaism wich is much older than Christianity.



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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: Spokesman]
    #1930331 - 09/18/03 09:45 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe Judaism was created by an awareness group of humans who want to spread the word to overcome the tyrany that has plagued freewill for centuries.


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: Spokesman]
    #1930336 - 09/18/03 09:46 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

ACTUALLY...Satan [Adversary, in Hebrew] was created by GOD, who, in the Book of Job, used his angelic servant to test the faith of a righteous man - namely, Job. Job remained faithful and transcended all the miseries that were inflicted on him (minus death), and GOD rewarded him with more than he had before. Of course, at the time of Job's authorship, Satan was a servant of GOD, not the Dante-esque symbol for complete evil that Christianity made of him.

In the 3 Books of Enoch which describe the rebellion in Heaven, and the rejection of 1/3 of the angels under the 'Devil,' which somewhat ambiguously gets confused with the 'light bearer' Lucifer, Satan rules Hell. Regardless of how one interprets the 'Shadow' of GOD's Light, there IS radical evil in the world (cosmos, Greek), and it no longer seems to me merely as a 'Privatio Boni,' or absence of Goodness, but often seems intelligent and personified. I became fairly convinced of this after reading 'Hostage to the Devil' by Malachi Martin - the documented cases of demonic possession that the film 'The Exorcist' was based on.


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #1930550 - 09/18/03 11:00 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

wow, verra interesting


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: cleaner]
    #1930570 - 09/18/03 11:05 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I've been fighting Satan for millenia, in various incarnations. And his spawn. What of it? It takes place on the astral level, and the light always wins. The name of this 'society' is in my sig, in purple.


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: Shroomism]
    #1930589 - 09/18/03 11:16 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

satan and god are the same person


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1930678 - 09/18/03 11:41 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

We all are the same entity, but we are experiencing ourself subjectively through several different bodies.


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1930704 - 09/18/03 11:46 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Everything is the same entity, in the end. It has split itself into billions of subjective entities to experience polarities, and thus, challenges, and thus, learning and evolution. Without the dark and light, there would be no learning, no progress, and thus, nothing. Just stagnant energy.

Yin and Yang. Two separate parts of the same whole, in opposition, yet harmony and balance.

Chaos and peace, destruction and creation, are polarized elements of the same force.


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: Shroomism]
    #1931698 - 09/19/03 08:34 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

shaitan...
the concept of a powerful arch-enemy of the creator, leading the armies of darkeness and fallen angelic beings against the forces of light, was very much influenced by the zoroastrian influences to which the jews were exposed during the time of exile (the babylonian captivity)...
the radical dualism transformed the jewish tribal mountain god into the cosmic architect, and the satan-figure from a lawyer operating under license from his master (given permission to perform a destruct-test on a faithful creature (god's faithful servant job)) to a the leader of a heavenly insurrection, whose overweening pride led to a split in heaven long before adam's fall from grace (& the expulsion from the garden)...
of course, jewish & christian & muslim theologians worked satan over pretty well over the next couple millenia... and they also reworked the job description of YHVH/the Father(& the Son & the Holy Spirit)/Allah... (let's not even get into fringe influences, such as essenes, gnostics, neo-platonists, manicheans, classical pagans, & competing mystery cults (such as mithra, attis, osiris...) --- at least not right now :wink: ...)


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: gnrm23]
    #1931755 - 09/19/03 09:27 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Shroomism, you know those people? Where are they stationed?
According to Mr.Bruce's testimony they mutated him, to serve the light.
Satan and his demons mutate in the same way their preiests.

btw did you get my privet messsage?


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: cleaner]
    #1931810 - 09/19/03 10:12 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Satan was NOT created by "god". Him and "god" were both created by Judaism.... sorry for bursting your bubble with pesamistic point of view. :lol: Anyway im j/k, you can believe whatever the hell you want.


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: Spokesman]
    #1932129 - 09/19/03 01:11 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

"And GOD divided the light from the darkness..."

sounds like God created satan to me, at least in terms of biblical interpretation.

In my mind, satan and god are like old friends playing a game of chess on a set which God made. The chess set is the universe. They are only adversaries for the sake of the game.

How can you rebel against omniscience without its permission?


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1932529 - 09/19/03 03:19 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The world is cruel and kind at the same time, just as nature. There is balance. You can call it god vs satan, good vs evil, whatever you label it, it is the same. We are creatures of the same yin and yang. We are both beautiful and putrid at once.


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #1932663 - 09/19/03 03:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
ACTUALLY...Satan [Adversary, in Hebrew] was created by GOD, who, in the Book of Job, used his angelic servant to test the faith of a righteous man - namely, Job. Job remained faithful and transcended all the miseries that were inflicted on him (minus death), and GOD rewarded him with more than he had before. Of course, at the time of Job's authorship, Satan was a servant of GOD, not the Dante-esque symbol for complete evil that Christianity made of him.

In the 3 Books of Enoch which describe the rebellion in Heaven, and the rejection of 1/3 of the angels under the 'Devil,' which somewhat ambiguously gets confused with the 'light bearer' Lucifer, Satan rules Hell. Regardless of how one interprets the 'Shadow' of GOD's Light, there IS radical evil in the world (cosmos, Greek), and it no longer seems to me merely as a 'Privatio Boni,' or absence of Goodness, but often seems intelligent and personified. I became fairly convinced of this after reading 'Hostage to the Devil' by Malachi Martin - the documented cases of demonic possession that the film 'The Exorcist' was based on.




so... to tie this into the "love thy enemy" thread.. do you think that this "personification" of evil is personified by human beings, or by evil spirits a la the exorcist?

what I'm getting at is that evil ought to be hated, and people are evil, so "compassion for all" is not good.


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Re: Secret spiritual societies [Re: Malachi]
    #1932734 - 09/19/03 04:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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so... to tie this into the "love thy enemy" thread.. do you think that this "personification" of evil is personified by human beings, or by evil spirits a la the exorcist? what I'm getting at is that evil ought to be hated, and people are evil, so "compassion for all" is not good.




If you make a statement like "compassion for all" is not good because people are evil, then you have bought into "Original Sin" (the notion that Adam's sin in the Garden of Eden has been conferred to all of his descendants, so all human beings are automatically sinners) or Freud's homo homini lupus (Man is Wolf to Man) theory. You then validate that we might as well just not even try to live loving, balanced, harmonious, tolerant and compassionate lives because in the end, we are all evil anyway. How does that work for you?


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